Are there any shorter hops that the t7 does?

Oh yeah look at Japan and many cargo carriers.

Antigua-St Kitts with British Airways BA 2157. 35 mins scheduled flying time

I did Buenos Aires - Montevideo on an AA 7772 back in 2002

Not too many on a B777-200LR to be honest. Lots of them with the -200ER and -300ER.

One question.

If one airline operates heavy planes on short routes how much fuel the plane gets for the flight, much more than it needs, or the amount for the route plus reserve?

Not too many on a B777-200LR to be honest. Lots of them with the -200ER and -300ER.

 

Maybe not many on the B777-200LR, but plenty on the B777-200F which, ICAO calls B77L. B777-200LR is also the B77L.

 

Air France Cargo run a -200F from KJFK to KORD every day or 2.

China Southern Cargo run a -200F from EHAM to LOWW

I saw a Qatar running from FAOR (used to be FAJS) to FQMA (45mins!) http://flightaware.com/live/flight/id/QTR584-1378704858-airline-0087

 

Here's a list of B77L captured by flightaware sorted by flight length time.

http://flightaware.com/live/aircrafttype/B77L?;offset=0;order=filed_ete;sort=ASC

 

Keep looking there on occasion at different times of the day/week because they only show up when they are enroute. This is where I found the flights mentiioned above.

One question.

If one airline operates heavy planes on short routes how much fuel the plane gets for the flight, much more than it needs, or the amount for the route plus reserve?

 

Fuel isn't free. Breaking your landing gear after an overweight landing isn't good, because shutting down airports, getting the salvage equipment to remove wreckage and purchasing new aircraft isn't free either.

 

Aircraft burn more fuel the heavier they are. Fuel is heavy (try carrying a 20 Litre Jerry can of the stuff!). Carrying fuel you aren't going to use is wasteful (and heavy, see above )

 

 

Fuel isn't free. Breaking your landing gear after an overweight landing isn't good, because shutting down airports, getting the salvage equipment to remove wreckage and purchasing new aircraft isn't free either.

 

:LMAO:

 

Kind regards

(...) Fuel isn't free. Breaking your landing gear after an overweight landing isn't good, because shutting down airports, getting the salvage equipment to remove wreckage and purchasing new aircraft isn't free either.

 

Aircraft burn more fuel the heavier they are. Fuel is heavy (try carrying a 20 Litre Jerry can of the stuff!). Carrying fuel you aren't going to use is wasteful (and heavy, see above )

 

 

Refuelling time isn't free either, 'cause you lose revenue during refuelling. So the question seems valid to me:

 

Do they fuel for a number of short trips in order to save some time on the ground? (And some money for the refuelling service itself.)

 

Loading/unloading freight may take long enough to enable refuelling but the airport probably charges the airline every time the fuel truck arrives ...

Refuelling time isn't free either, 'cause you lose revenue during refuelling. So the question seems valid to me:

 

Do they fuel for a number of short trips in order to save some time on the ground? (And some money for the refuelling service itself.)

 

Loading/unloading freight may take long enough to enable refuelling but the airport probably charges the airline every time the fuel truck arrives ...

 

Ever heard of the term "Tankering fuel" 

 

It's often done when there will be a large penalty in fuel price at a given airport, so the aircraft comes in with more fuel than it needed, uplifts either no fuel or at least less than if it was on required legal reserves at arrival, and refuels properly somewhere else where fuel is cheaper.

 

This of course needs to be balanced with landing weights, so you can't fill the tanks up to max takeoff for a 1 hour flight. Dumping fuel is for emergencies. "Forgot to plan properly" isn't an emergency. 

OK! I know you have to be in the legal limit for landing. My question was, if those big jets carry more fuel than what it needs for the flight, for proper balance.

3 weeks ago I was in the middle east, and hopped between Doha, Qatar and Manama, Bahrain (40 or so minutes)

 

It was with a Qatar Airways 777 (think it's a 300ER). We were like 30 people on board...

PHOG Kahului, HI - PHKO Kailua/Kona, HI.

I took this trip in 2005. Flight was UAL KORD → PHOG → PHKO. If you've been to Kona you know the airport. There are no jetways so you're boarding the old fashioned way using stairs and you realized the size of those engines.

United Tulip livery BTW.

OPLA-OPKC and OPKC -OPLA - PIA use the 777LR real world. 1 hour flight each way, 562 NM approx  Im doing short hops all the time. Practicing those manual landings...

I have been on an Air Canada 777 from Montreal to Toronto....about 1 hour.   They no longer fly this route in the 777.