October 20, 201312 yr Hi all, So since the 777 came out I have done a number of flights from Birmingham to Dubai EGBB to OMDB to test my plane thoroughly and out of about 6 or 7 flights I have landed once fine, had two "Your computer has run out of available memory" on landing, and today as I turned off the runway. Another out of memory on the downwind leg while approaching Dubai and I forget the others. I have followed all the advice in setting up the 777 to work properly but can't work out if this is being caused by the 777 or the scenery which is FlyTampa Dubai. I have REX running but cloud textures at 1024 not HD textures. I have Windows7, 64bit with 8gb ram and virtual memory set to 16,000 to 32,000 so would have thought that was plenty. One thought struck me, as I was reading the post here on the skeleton effect when changing to outside views, and the effort of drawing all that external aircraft, I notice that before the skin is drawn, there is a complete interior drawn first. This must be a drain on resources for the already overworked PC! Is there any way to do away with the interior textures and in effect just have an empty shell with a VC at the front? Just some thoughts. But if anyone has any ideas on the "Your computer has run out of available memory" I'd like to hear your comments. Is this PMDG problem or FlyTampa? Regards Happy Flying, Dave Phillips.
October 20, 201312 yr Changing your virtual memory has nothing to do with OOM and will not help and to answer your question about the cabin go to the Simobjects/airplanes/PMDG777-200LR/Model/ and open model.cfg. Then add 2 slashes so it looks like this [models] //normal=PMDG_777_200LR.MDL interior=PMDG_777_VC The problem with this is that it will not draw the aircraft at all but it may help with your OOM. There are frankly loads of threads in here about OOM I suggest you search. Nothing that will be said in here has not been already said I suspect. Regards 5800X3D - Strix X570-E - 32GB 3600Mhz DDR4 - AMD RX 9070 XT- Samsung 980 Pro x2
October 20, 201312 yr Commercial Member I have Windows7, 64bit with 8gb ram and virtual memory set to 16,000 to 32,000 so would have thought that was plenty. What on earth are you talking about???? As for your OOME problem - your scenery is leaking memory. Find all the landclass files in the scenery, and put them in their own dedicated scenery folder as if they were totally seperate scenery. There is a memory leak bug in FSX that you are encountering. e.g. If the landclass files are located in: Add-On Scenery\OMDB\scenery Then create a new folder: Add-On Scenery\OMDBLC In that new folder, ONLY create a folder called scenery; DO NOT create a texture folder here!! Move (do NOT copy) the landclass files to this new scenery folder. Add the new scenery area to FSX, and make sure it appears immediately below the OMDB scenery. Memory leak fixed. Best regards, Robin.
October 20, 201312 yr Hi Robin, Could you explain more what file types are these landclass files? Personnally, I have only "bgl" files in this dubai scenery folder, so what files are to be moved? Regards. Patrice. Patrice Dubois
October 20, 201312 yr What on earth are you talking about???? As for your OOME problem - your scenery is leaking memory. Find all the landclass files in the scenery, and put them in their own dedicated scenery folder as if they were totally seperate scenery. There is a memory leak bug in FSX that you are encountering. e.g. If the landclass files are located in: Add-On Scenery\OMDB\scenery Then create a new folder: Add-On Scenery\OMDBLC In that new folder, ONLY create a folder called scenery; DO NOT create a texture folder here!! Move (do NOT copy) the landclass files to this new scenery folder. Add the new scenery area to FSX, and make sure it appears immediately below the OMDB scenery. Memory leak fixed. Best regards, Robin. Worst advice I've ever heard. Great for errors when your landclass file in its own dedicated scenery folder is desperately calling for all the textures and models nowhere to be found since they are now in a separate scenery folder. The OP needs to post his fsx.cfg file and also name any addon scenery and AI they run. That will help figuring out the problem which usually ends up being corrupted ai textures or duplicate afcads. Sometimes addon scenery like Aerosoft has problems, download the latest versions and check for any extra updates in their support section. Right off the top of my head I recall Aerosoft EBBR and LFPG having errors causing oom in previous versions. Also AI aircraft many times have corrupted lightmaps or incorrectly sized textures.
October 20, 201312 yr I'm replying because I feel for you. On my first PMDG 777 flight from KSFO to OMDB I got a OOM error on final, then again on my second attempt of the same flight near same place on final. After the second OOM error I knew I had to readjust some stuff. As I never had OOM errors with any PMDG software before or any other add-on for that matter. So what I did was lower LOD back to 4.5 (Some have boarder-line cried about the possibility having to do this) Lowered cloud res from 4096 down to 1024 (no biggie and I see you've done this as well) and lowered autogen down one from max I also use the tip the James tossed out in the first post, but this was after I already corrected the problem. It may work on OOM errors, but I did as I saw some extra frames. Since doing what I've done I've had many long haul and ultra long haul flights no problems and not one OOM error since then. A look at your FSX.cfg would help as someone else said. Good luck. -Raven HarrisIntel i7 980X @ 4.43GHz | ASUS Rampage III | Corsair 6GB DDR3 2000MHz | 3 EVGA GTX280 | Corsair 1200 Watt | Intel 510 SSD (RAID 0)PMDG - 747-400/8iF | MD11/F | BAe J41 | 737NG 6/7/8/9 Hope ER/BBJ|777LR/FFlight1- Cessna Mustang
October 21, 201312 yr Author Hi all, Thanks for the replies, I don't seem to get these problems with any other aircraft, and also if I fly a shorter route with the 777 to Dubai, this problem doesn't happen either. I have once had this happen at FlyTampa's Kai Tak scenery so maybe it's partly something with that companies scenery, but as it doesn't happen with other planes I thought it might be caused by the 777. I guess I should try a long route to another airport by a different scenery developer and see if the same thing happens! My scenery is FlyTampa, Dubai, with any updates that they have produced to date. Below is my FSX cfg file. 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Happy Flying, Dave Phillips.
October 21, 201312 yr Do i remember correctly when i say that disable your other scenerys along the route to your final destination will free up some memory as FSX loads these in memory ? Havent tried myself yet but i will try it as i get OOM with default settings in the PMDG777 and DX10 on longer flights (KLAX-LFPG) (EGLL-OMDB) Michael Moe Michael Moe
October 21, 201312 yr Hi all, So since the 777 came out I have done a number of flights from Birmingham to Dubai EGBB to OMDB to test my plane thoroughly and out of about 6 or 7 flights I have landed once fine, had two "Your computer has run out of available memory" on landing, and today as I turned off the runway. Another out of memory on the downwind leg while approaching Dubai and I forget the others. I have followed all the advice in setting up the 777 to work properly but can't work out if this is being caused by the 777 or the scenery which is FlyTampa Dubai. I have REX running but cloud textures at 1024 not HD textures. I have Windows7, 64bit with 8gb ram and virtual memory set to 16,000 to 32,000 so would have thought that was plenty. One thought struck me, as I was reading the post here on the skeleton effect when changing to outside views, and the effort of drawing all that external aircraft, I notice that before the skin is drawn, there is a complete interior drawn first. This must be a drain on resources for the already overworked PC! Is there any way to do away with the interior textures and in effect just have an empty shell with a VC at the front? Just some thoughts. But if anyone has any ideas on the "Your computer has run out of available memory" I'd like to hear your comments. Is this PMDG problem or FlyTampa? Regards Have you used process explorer to monitor your VAS usage on this flight yet? You will be shocked at how much it jumps up as soon as flytampa Dubai loads up, don't forget it's not just the airport that loads with this scenery it's the whole area of Dubai. Also is your OOM error message from FSX or is it a windows OOM error? Jason Dilley
October 21, 201312 yr Do i remember correctly when i say that disable your other scenerys along the route to your final destination will free up some memory as FSX loads these in memory ? Yes. The best remedy to date. Use scenery config editor and enable only the scenery you dep from and arrive at. Since moving to DX10 and using scfg editor, I have had not one OOM. I did a flight just the other day from FSDT CYVR to UK2000 EGLL, and landed with 700MB of free VAS. They were the only two airports enabled, and I have a lot. My scenery cfg is up to 411 entries. Worst advice I've ever heard. Great for errors when your landclass file in its own dedicated scenery folder is desperately calling for all the textures and models nowhere to be found since they are now in a separate scenery folder. Absolutely. What a nightmare that would be. One mistake you will never find it. Not good advice as some users would get tied up in knots doing it. System: MSFS2024, ASUS Rog Stryx Z790-A, Intel i9-14900KF, Asus ROG Ryujin III 360 , Asus Hyperion Case,Rog Stryx 4090 OC, Samsung 970 EVO M.2 SSD, 1Tb Samsung 860 EVO SSD,64Gb G Skill Memory, Asus Aura 1200W Gold PSU,Win 11 ,LG C4 48" 4K OLED Screen., Airbus TCA Full Kit, Stream Deck XL. WinWing FCU, EFIS, MCDU
October 21, 201312 yr Michael Moe, on 21 Oct 2013 - 08:59 AM, said:...Yes. The best remedy to date. Use scenery config editor and enable only the scenery you dep from and arrive at.Since moving to DX10 and using scfg editor, I have had not one OOM. I did a flight just the other day from FSDT CYVR to UK2000 EGLL, and landed with 700MB of free VAS. They were the only two airports enabled, and I have a lot. My scenery cfg is up to 411 entries. [...] Since moving to DX10 and using scfg editor, I have had not one OOM [...] +10000000000000000! DX10 and a proper use of the scenery config.tool is the way to go for me as well! No OOM ever since i use this combo on my sim with PMDG's great 777! I also consider this blog entry always worth reading when it comes down to OOM's and FSX: https://#####.wordpress.com/fsx-oom-and-addon-vas-usage/ If switching to DX10 is no option (although i - again saying - consider it the best way to go within FSX nowadays - especially when airliners such as the great 777 here are the prime choice of aircraft in FSX!) - then turning off various sceneris in the FSX scenery library (and nowhere else!) as suggested right above ad by using the scenery config tool, sure is a real great thing to do to help avoiding OOM's! And sure: TextureMax load in the fsx.cfg must not be more than 2048 (maybe even not more than 1024!) And LOD shoul be kept at 4,5 - a compromise maybe - but the best way to go at least in my opinion - to stay clear of OOM's in FSX - at least as long as running under DX9! But again - also considering switching to DX10 may really be worth it, if OOM's should be kept away as well as possible! Cheers, Christoph Enjoy flying and happy landings.
October 22, 201312 yr [...] Since moving to DX10 and using scfg editor, I have had not one OOM [...] +10000000000000000! DX10 and a proper use of the scenery config.tool is the way to go for me as well! No OOM ever since i use this combo on my sim with PMDG's great 777! I also consider this blog entry always worth reading when it comes down to OOM's and FSX: https://#####.wordpress.com/fsx-oom-and-addon-vas-usage/ If switching to DX10 is no option (although i - again saying - consider it the best way to go within FSX nowadays - especially when airliners such as the great 777 here are the prime choice of aircraft in FSX!) - then turning off various sceneris in the FSX scenery library (and nowhere else!) as suggested right above ad by using the scenery config tool, sure is a real great thing to do to help avoiding OOM's! And sure: TextureMax load in the fsx.cfg must not be more than 2048 (maybe even not more than 1024!) And LOD shoul be kept at 4,5 - a compromise maybe - but the best way to go at least in my opinion - to stay clear of OOM's in FSX - at least as long as running under DX9! But again - also considering switching to DX10 may really be worth it, if OOM's should be kept away as well as possible! Cheers, Christoph Also VAS around the 4GB limit can be a huge FPS/stutter experience . I can have up to -10fps on longhauls vs a short flight to the same approach Michael Moe Michael Moe
October 23, 201312 yr Before you go messing with cfg and all that you may just need to clean your registry. I all of a sudden started getting OOM problems and did some checking around and on advice I cleaned and repaired my registry and have not had a problem since. I didn't mess with my FSX at all.
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