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What's your perfect GA IFR cruiser?

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Mine:

- RealAir Turbine Duke

- with RealAir Duke B60 optics and effects

- with Aerosoft Twotter-like VC quality

- plus Flight1 T128T/Mustang-like G1000 implementation

- plus A2A C172-like maintenance features

 

One can dream...

 

 

Oh great, five threads.

It'd really help if avsim wouldn't run into capacity issues when trying to post a new topic...

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I'll respond to this one ^_^

 

I like the Carenado Cessna 337 Skymaster for it's smoooth FDE.

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I think the perfect one is the RealAir Legacy.  Superb visibility, high speed (and low speed if you need it), excellent immersion, excellent crosswind handling/flight controls.  RXP equipped if desired too!

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Ditto on the Lancair Legacy, but I've been hankering for one with a turbine. And maybe some structural reinforcement to bump up the Vne. Turbine Duke is great too but engines can get in the way of visibility. I also wish someone would do a good quality Cirrus SR22.

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ES is the better of the two definitely, but dated.  Carenado is basically visuals only as usual.

 

I have both though!

 

I've always wished for a Lancair Evolution - those are neat!  (Ugly but neat)

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Ok, might have to check out the ES version after the holidays, once budget allows. Are the systems pretty thorough? I was very disappointed in the Carenado except for the visuals. I'll be honest, I feel like they flood the market with iconic planes that make other developers less apt to come out with the same version. For instance, I have been wishing someone would do a high quality Cessna C208 Caravan, but Carenado cornered that market.   

 

I think the Lancair Evolution has a turbine and Vne somewhere around 300kts. Might have a few odd curves to it, but that would be a whole lot of fun! I would buy it for sure.

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IF you have a powerful PC the Wilco  Socata TBM 850 might hit the mark. I have it and despite all criticism it's a great plane with a WAAS capable G1000.  

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The Realair Lancair for me, for its speed and its fantastic FDE, closely followed by the Carenado C208 (well, I use that one actually more often for VFR, but it still is a great workhorse under any conditions) and the C337, since that one is a quite unique and cool plane.

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For me the Flight 1 King Air 200 or Real Air Turbine Duke  - both are superb GA aircraft but prior to the release of the King Air, the Turbine Duke was my main GA IFR aircraft however now it is difficult to choose between them! In terms of the King Air, the Carenado version is not really a contender because, although it has got great internal and external visuals, it's systems are nothing like as good as the Flight 1 version.

 

Bill

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Carenado are eye candy in my opinion - nice if one wants X renditions of 'a thing that flies, for looking at things', but not really useful for much else, i.e. IFR touring. I'm a bit miffed with them because I was extremely disappointed by their G1000 implementation in the T128T, recently.

 

The King Air looks interesting indeed! It's frightfully expensive though... how does it compare to the Mustang? That one's not quite a GA plane admittedly, but I like it somehow... couldn't make up my mind to spend the money yet, though. But after the disappointment mentioned above, I've been somewhat mollified by the Flight1 128 and it's G1000, so I'm casting a friendly eye on other Flight1 products with the Garmin.

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Carenado are eye candy in my opinion - nice if one wants X renditions of 'a thing that flies, for looking at things', but not really useful for much else, i.e. IFR touring. I'm a bit miffed with them because I was extremely disappointed by their G1000 implementation in the T128T, recently.

I agree with you to some point: Some Carenado planes have some really odd in-flight behavior and are in fact useless for IFR, but especially the C337 isn't bad at all IMO. It has all the instruments one needs for IFR, plus the (default-ish) GPS, and the same applies for the Caravan. The FDE seem to be correct (at least they react the way I would expect them to do so), too.

However, those planes are for sure not really suitable for real world training purposes, e.g. because they don't simulate every single system of the plane.

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Btw I might not have made this clear enough: the idea of this thread was to have you define your hypothetical, ideal GA cruiser - not necessarily point to existing planes, because as I tried to exemplify in my first post, there's no single add-on out there today that does everything that I want.

(With the possible exception of that King Air, will definitely have to save up for that one!)

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Carenado are eye candy in my opinion - nice if one wants X renditions of 'a thing that flies, for looking at things', but not really useful for much else, i.e. IFR touring. I'm a bit miffed with them because I was extremely disappointed by their G1000 implementation in the T128T, recently.

 

The King Air looks interesting indeed! It's frightfully expensive though... how does it compare to the Mustang? That one's not quite a GA plane admittedly, but I like it somehow... couldn't make up my mind to spend the money yet, though. But after the disappointment mentioned above, I've been somewhat mollified by the Flight1 128 and it's G1000, so I'm casting a friendly eye on other Flight1 products with the Garmin.

The Mustang certainly is general aviation.. GA is a broad category though. Anyway I have both the king air and mustang. I prefer the king air now. Speed-wise the KA is just slightly slower in cruise. The mustang can still out climb the king air (but in real life burning much more gas). The G1000 in the KA is far far better on fps than mustang. And there's more features such as Safe Taxi and the VNAV "banana."

 

The king air also has a maintenance module/failure. And really good systems. Additionally it has a manual that you can actually follow to the T and things will work as advertised.

 

Oh and it allows for Navigraph.

 

It's 10 bucks more for the KA (at least it was) - I was incredibly skeptical of the FDE at launch and the F1 team did a pretty good job of fixing a flaw by version 1.3.

 

It's one of my top five best GA planes to date (and I basically own all the native FSX ones).

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Based on the question by the OP my choice is the Carenado C90B.  It is good eye candy, but goes well beyond that.  The handling is among the best of the Carenado models and for IFR flying the combination of instruments is much to my liking with some of both, traditional and glass, and very good RXP integration.

 

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Carenado are eye candy in my opinion - nice if one wants X renditions of 'a thing that flies, for looking at things', but not really useful for much else, i.e. IFR touring. I'm a bit miffed with them because I was extremely disappointed by their G1000 implementation in the T128T, recently.

 

The King Air looks interesting indeed! It's frightfully expensive though... how does it compare to the Mustang? That one's not quite a GA plane admittedly, but I like it somehow... couldn't make up my mind to spend the money yet, though. But after the disappointment mentioned above, I've been somewhat mollified by the Flight1 128 and it's G1000, so I'm casting a friendly eye on other Flight1 products with the Garmin.

agood,

 

You gotta work on that T128T and Flight1 128 designation, you might end up landing on the wrong runway with headon traffic. Ha,

 

Search Avsim for 'Cessna Citations' review for the scoop on the Flight1 Mustang and here on the front page for details on the F1 Super King Air recommendation. How can you go wrong with their 30 day money back offer for you to experience either or both first hand?

 

I have both and recommend both.

 

Regards,

 

Ray

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Carenado are eye candy in my opinion - nice if one wants X renditions of 'a thing that flies, for looking at things', but not really useful for much else, i.e. IFR touring. I'm a bit miffed with them because I was extremely disappointed by their G1000 implementation in the T128T, recently.

 

That;s how I feel with most of the models I have from them except the Skymaster with Stolle FDE  it is simply better than the rest (IMO) I have the Caravan, C182RG, Bonanza V35, and the Cessna 208 and prefer the Skymaster to all of those. 160-165knts cruise so it's not slow but can't get up to the FL's of the turbocharged B model Super Skymasters but it's a very enjoyable IFR touring machine with good range and good visibility with the high wing for those VFR days.

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I bought the older C185 bush version in the recent Carenado sale, and I love the sound of that thing - plus the tundra version with that aircraft.cfg fix is a challenge to land, so lots of fun with this one. If there was a higher resolution VC available it would actually be able to hang in there with the newer stuff rather well...

 

Back to topic: I'll try the Flight1 King Air, that thing looks fantastic!

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Ya you cant go wrong .... 30 day return policy

I'm not afraid I won't like it, I'm afraid I'm going to like it too much, i.e. be another 50 bucks short...

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Im thinking of getting the F1 king air based on the quality of the Mustang of which I dont fly much these days mainly due to the ear splitting warning that kicks in at exactly 1 knot over 250 kts and between Fadec and wind shifts there is no way to avoid it. 

 

Incredibly according to F1 it cant be turned off.

 

My favorite though is the Duke v2

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