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Uh right- if they recompiled then it's not a good idea (or replace everything binary and dll, but not willing to try that at the moment)

What would really interest me, but haven't seen an answer yet (and too lazy to find out myself, tbh): What specific files contain whatever improvements have been done to SE? Because I'd like to just copy these over to my boxed install, should work like a charm (as long as it's not config files, where obviously path entries would have to be modified).

Well lets be fair here... the comparison holds true if you place your order for the boxed version with some shop, at the same time when you're clicking "Install" on Steam. The bandwidth of snail-mailing a couple of DVDs is relatively good, but its more than 15 minutes. I'll move to SE once a) it's matured a bit more and b) ORBX have their new FTX Central ready, in the hopes that that thing will be able to auto-download and install all ORBX products I own. Because if I have to re-install all of that manually that alone would cost me a week...

Also bought it as soon as I've seen this thread, did a little introductory flight from 0S9 to 05S as I've also just bought these two to wrap up on the ORBX sale - nice! Haven't been flying much lately due to Elite Dangerous demanding time, so it's special to get back with something like the Turbine Duke... I was not always ahead of the airplane on that flight, let's say. But one thing always stands out for me with RealAir machines: absolutely beautiful landings!

Most comments about Steam-related aspects are made by people with no clue about Steam... par for the course.

I didn't know this, thanks for the info - but that would be a good incentive to move onto a decent browser, should you be using any version of IE ;-)

Find this update in your windows installation, and remove it: KB2670838 In my case this one caused FSX to crash after 5-15 minutes of playing.

Anything from A2A - for the GA offerings it's actually possible to judge because many people have real-life time on those types. The new C182 is excellent, also the C172 and of course the PA-28. And if you've ever flown any of their warbirds, anything else will become boring...

No, nothing in FSUIPC (at least, nothing that I put there - I'll re-check). There's actually two key assigned to mouse-look according to controls.xml, unfortunately neither one is the one that's bugging me...

Thanks for the quick reply, but that's not it - there's still that stupid mouse-look-toggle binding associated with that key. Built-in/hard-coded? Any chance around that?

Hi all, a question I don't even know how to ask properly: how can I remove the FSX key binding for the '^' key, on a German keyboard (key is to the left of the '1' key on the main key block)? When I assign something to that key in FSX it calls it 'ZIRKUMFLEX', and it is bound to TOGGLE_MOUSE_LOOK by default - but I cannot find that mapping anywhere, not even in the controls.xml file - any chance to get rid of that?

Agree with the above, actually just got me the RealAir scout pack (finally) to complete my own collection. The Carenado C185 is a mixed bag for me - GREAT sound, good looking exterior model still even though it's an old plane, but the VC isn't great any longer. There is a .cfg file patch out there that makes it quite challenging to land properly on the tundras, that adds a bit of character to the plane. It's quite affordable by now, so so you can't really go wrong with it. I'm waiting for an updated Beaver myself - if they get that to the level of the Twotter, I'd be ecstatic. The current one isn't much good any longer, if you're used to the looks and feel of the A2A or RealAir stuff, the BN2 (GREAT plane, but a bit poor on visibility) or the overhauled Twotter (also great, a must have). One thing forgotten so far, and free even: here is a *brilliant* rendition of the venerable Cessna 150 in a bush version (Downloads - Aircraft FSX/P3D - C150 TiBush) - try it out, it is very well done and a joy to fly. http://frenchvfr.free.fr/download.php?lng=en

Ah I think they will do a warbird again... and I am looking forward to the Bonanza, if it's true!

Yeah, like the P-51, P-47, P-40 or the Spitfire... #####? What I'd like are some quality options in niches that aren't covered yet by serious developers, for example a high-end single like the Bonanza (but A2A might have that on their list...), a low-end Twin (good old Seneca for example), or some models that I've never seen made at all (to quality, for money) like a TB10/TB20, or a Grumman Cheetah or Tiger. There also is no good Super Cub (the Replicas version is okay, but not comparable to RA or A2A any longer). Like you say what I'm also not getting: why isn't there a good Mooney on the market?? And what I would almost die for: a taildragger (any taildragger really) with *realistic* ground handling. Why no one has yet done that is a mystery to me, as it appears that really any code/modelling in FSX can be replaced by something realistic - or is ground handling an exception? Any Taildragger where you can just sit back and watch it go straight after touch down is a let down. So: how about a Buecker Jungmann or Jungmeister? Or an up to date Texan or Stearman? Or a Husky? Or... there's so many options in that area other than the Cub that's already covered well by A2A (except for the ground handling, which really surprised me).

I know what the layer-style products do, they don't claim to be photo real. And FTX global is not adding anything to the content that's shown by default, it just makes it look better (only generic textures). If you want to get closer to reality content wise, you need vector products (roads, water bodies) and landclass addons (what's supposed to be where, as in cities, forests, etc) - and the fidelity of this is limited by the FSX engine. Both kinds of products have pros and cons, I'm sure you are aware of them. But in the case of VFR Germany - what good is that level of content reality if the overall looks are simply wrong/bad? Not even talking about seasons or night flying... But as I said above: everyone as he pleases, there is no silver bullet.

France looks a lot better - but the German textures have that washed out greenish-blueish hue that makes them look like a magazine that was inadvertently put through a washing machine, which does not do Germany justice. Also I find the texture resolution wanting by today's standards, at least when you're down low. But hey, just my opinion I'm on ORBX openLC Europe now, and while the overall feel and things like the coloration are pretty much spot on, with that one I get picky about certain parts of villages missing or too many trees on the east Frisian islands... ;-) There's no silver bullet.

Huh? VFR Germany has horrible colors in my opinion. But it's the only option there is, for fotoreal, that is true...

The funniest thing in this (part 1) thread so far is people really expecting Microsoft to use precious E3 time to announce the liquidation of a brand that they haven't cared about for a decade (yes, despite Flight) and that no one of the current generation of gamerz even knows. Closely followed by the idea that ORBX or Aerosoft or any add-on company might have the resources to buy and exploit it... But interesting to see where this goes, for my part I just hope the many hundreds of dollars invested in FSX addons aren't going to waste with a future platform. But I guess I better get used to the idea :-\

This patch is *huge* improvement, I highly recommend it! Before, an airliner starting anywhere near you on an airport was a highly annoying and extremely unrealistic sounding experience - now it's downright enjoyable! The sound issue almost made me deinstall Traffic 360 several times, so this is a very welcome patch.

I don't think there's an Aquila for FSX, searched myself a while ago but didn't find one. There is a Diamond Katana from Aerosoft which I'm told is pretty good.

A RV-7 fly-in, I would try to take part if I can make the date/time!

Seconded!

Got the RV-7 yesterday, it's been on my list for a while. Nice! Need to look around for some more repaints though Is BTS still active, can we expect new releases in the future?

Thanks Bill, downloaded the CAB (though I'm not a registered user, at least not that I know of). On the version confusion: below is a snippet from the update notification I got from simmarket, but if it's just their confusing naming policy then I'm happy! ----------8< -----------8< ------------ You will find the link to download this update from your user account -> orders listing -> respective detailed order page on the bottom. MV_C310R_P3DV2_v3.140421.zip MV_C310R_FSX_P3DV1_v3.140421.zip

Bill, on that note: I've visited the Milviz forum site to watch for the update, but I can't find where to register - am I blind or am I missing something? Also, I bought the 310 on SimMarket, and they notified me about update version 3.140420 being available, so I downloaded a zip file with that name; unfortunately inside the zip there's still the version 3.140420 installer. Did SimMarket botch that? Or did I miss something here, too? Thanks, Daniel