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Does anyone know if they are still developing new products?  They have been silent for a long time now.  Too bad as they produced some of my favorite aircraft.

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I was under the impression that they were working on V2 of the turbine Duke. Also a Cessna 172 but they were having some licensing issues. Other than those two I have not heard much. Would love to see a business jet getting the RealAir treatment.  

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Real Air are quite a small outfit (just two people I think) which is probably why their output of new products is fairly slow. But, in saying that, they are well worth waiting for - their Beech Duke update is arguably the best piston engined GA aircraft available for FSX and I hope they are giving the Turbine Duke the same treatment as it (and the Flight 1 King Air) are my favourite GA turbine aircraft. Their website lists only the Cessna 172 as 'coming soon' and I'm sure it will be excellent, but sadly it will probably be the only Real Air product that I won't purchase for FSX, as I already have a couple of 172s in my hangar in addition to the default. Not quite sure why they went for this aircraft as their next project given that much of the market for a quality 172 has probably already been cornered by A2A.

 

Bill

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I understand the concern  about Realair going head to head against the A2A 172, and why some, or most, would not want another 172,  but RA does such good work that I will buy it, for sure.  Just the chance to fly a different variation,  with the RA touch,  will be worth it, IMO.

 

 

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RA does such good work that I will buy it, for sure. Just the chance to fly a different variation, with the RA touch, will be worth it, IMO

 

I have absolutely no doubt that it will be worth it and of excellent quality - I might even be tempted to buy it myself in the end, but at least I will try to exercise some self-control for a while!

 

Bill

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The Lancair and the Duke esp. v2 certainly are at the top of their class. Would love to see more from them, but, being such a small outfit, I cannot fault them.

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I suspect that their silence is at least in part due to them waiting for the dust to settle a bit more on P3D ver 2.x as well as the big step to even start developing for the P3D sim. One can hardly blame them as unstable as things have been for the last year.

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They also have a history of only giving details close to release. It works well I find.

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I do wish they would update the development news date for the 172 Coming Soon area.  The last date is September, 2013.

 

 

Ernie

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My reference flyers are RealAir products: Legacy and Duke. EVERYTHING about them is first class.

 

I will wait...

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I have a feeling they will update here shortly. 1st class products!

Im not sure we need another 172 as A2A have done it already and will be hard to beat. If they haven't gone to far with it maybe drop it and focus on a Biz jet? now wouldn't that be sensational!

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Have to agree RealAir does great products, but I can't see them matching A2A's 172. 

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I'll get their 172 if it ever gets released. I don't own A2A version because I'm not into the maintenance feature that they have. Not really sure if you can fly it without doing a walk around. Plus I like RealAir prices much better. ;-)

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Realair Simulations is my favorite GA developer!

 

I have all their payware airplanes and when I get a new plane, from a different developer, I always compare it to Realair.

 

My feeling is that RA planes have beautiful VCs, easy RXP integration, and I love the way the airplane feels. RA planes control inputs react the way they should.

 

There are very few developers that come close. IMO, they are simply the best!

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I'll get their 172 if it ever gets released. I don't own A2A version because I'm not into the maintenance feature that they have. Not really sure if you can fly it without doing a walk around. Plus I like RealAir prices much better. ;-)

 

I feel quite the same. I didn´t buy A2A C172 for two reasons:

- I wanted to see how the RA C172 would be

- I don´t want to turn flight simulator to a maintenance simulator (with the limited time I spend simming)

 

I wish RA would give us at least some information: are they still working on C172 and will it be published ( no need to know date, just the information if its going to be on the market some day).

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For me personally RealAir have been replaced by A2A, I wouldn't buy a GA aircraft now if it didn't have persistent maintenance, status and wear modelled. You actually have to fly the aircraft by the numbers or there will be consequences, even something simple like lowering the flaps right at the edge of the white arc all the time causes the flaps linkages to wear out quicker and if you don't maintain them you will be in trouble when the flap fails, what's not to like about that?

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Every single A2A bird, you can turn the damage and stuff off and just fly.

You really are missing out if that is your worry. Honestly, I keep it all turned on, and spend hardly any time at all messing with anything like that.

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RA's aircrafts are a class of their own and are truely fantastic!

But i agree with what was also pointed out here earlier:

I am not sure either, if another C172 is really needed, as A2A have released a superb and most outstanding rendition of it already for FSX/P3D.

But sure:

RA have their own style and so i certainly will keep an eye on theirs C172 progress and decide later, once it wil e released, if i will be adding it to my virtual hangar or not.

And who knows, maybe RA are already working on a completely differenet aircraft anyways and are just keeping it a secret until development has gone far enough to present some more detailed info to the public ...

 

Every single A2A bird, you can turn the damage and stuff off and just fly.

You really are missing out if that is your worry. Honestly, I keep it all turned on, and spend hardly any time at all messing with anything like that.

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No need to worry about maintenance if this feature is not desired, because as pointed out:

The wear and tear stuff is a fantastic enhancement and really raises the immersion whilst flying in the sim - and once used to it, it does not really take that much time at all - but again saying: It really raises the immesrion while flying later on or can be turned off completely.

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I feel quite the same. I didn´t buy A2A C172 for two reasons:
- I wanted to see how the RA C172 would be
- I don´t want to turn flight simulator to a maintenance simulator (with the limited time I spend simming)

 

Same here. I don't have much time in-between work/real flying to sit around topping up oil and changing wheel spats. I just want to load up and fly.

 

RealAir make the most accurate flight models in the business so am waiting patiently for their ultimate version of the 172.

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Mixing A2A's maintenance and sound design with RA's stall effects, wind sounds, and flaps being damaged would be awesome. (I'm basing this on videos though. I don't own either. Still seeing if the Duke goes P3d maybe)

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A2A already model far more damageable components compared to what you have in the RealAir aircraft, I presume you missed the bit about wear and tear, flaps can fail due to wear even if you don't exceed speed limits for them, if they are worn enough they can fail at any speed. Another example is water in fuel, they simulate that too. Another chap on the forum the other day had his Piper burst into flames, no idea what it was but it was likely due to him not maintaining things properly. Don't get me wrong I really do love RealAir's aircraft but they have to take things to a whole new level now to compete for my pennies.

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I'm pretty sure A2A offering is fantastic but for me, why pay for features I'm not going to use (maintenance). If they ever release the 172 without those "Xtra Features" I'll probably get it.

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My biggest wish would be the VC integration of Flight1's new GTN units. And a V2 of the Turbine Duke would be great as well!

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Both A2A and RealAir are the "elites" in my opinion but I must give RealAir the edge. Their planes just seem to "feel right".

The maintenance, wear and tear, etc are interesting features and A2A has done wonders there.

As for my purchasing:

If RealAir announces it I buy it without delay. Never been disappointed.

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