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Sometimes this hobby is frustrating as heck!

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I hate to mention it, but moving addons to another PC across the network does not free up resources for FSX and prevent OOMs. You can only stop OOMs by reducing the texture sizes, reducing the sliders, and avoid allowing unnecessary .dlls to run, since they directly use FSX resources and run in the process space of FSX. Addons that do not run in the process space of FSX do not cause or contribute to OOMs. Although it is possible for any addon to load up FSX across the network with requests that could then in turn cause OOMs, but these are the same on the host PC or on a network PC, they still send network requests. Of course, moving addons off of the host onto a spare PC does allow more cores uninterrupted on the host and is good if you have a spare PC. FSX is a network bound program and will perform better as you improve the networking. Interestingly Windows 8 has a big core performance improvement with networking.

Steve Waite: Engineer at codelegend.com

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If I'm not taking it seriously enough for your liking, read "jimburke's" post, fifth down on page one. Trust me, it makes sense...

This old geezer has never suffered a single OOM in many years of flight simming.

 

* Hook wonders what jimburke thinks about being called an old geezer.  Oh wait, you meant YOU!  Never mind.

 

I got an OOM once.  I was landing my tweaked Goose at Funter Bay (FNR) in Alaska with default scenery (I have no addon scenery installed, but have edited my home airport in Texas).  FNR is a water runway with no buildings.  There's nothing out there but some trees!  Just on the usual point on final approach, apparently FSX has to load something extra for the airport, and even though there couldn't have been anything to load, I got the OOM dialog box.  I'd never seen one before.  I just figured it wasn't a real OOM and chalked it up to FSX doing it's usual crash thingy, possibly mucking around in memory it didn't own or having memory so fragmented that you get odd problems.

 

Hook

Larry Hookins

 

Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;

This is what worries me, as I am currently looking at upgrading my PC shortly to run FSX...

 

I am also addicted to addons lol.... for FS9 I have HD clouds, water effects, UT, Mesh, VOZ and many airport and aircraft additions including 100% AI and love my long haul flights with not a single issue.

 

With switching to FSX, what would be the base to make it look amazing without causing too much issue with the dreaded OOM on long flights?

If getting FTX Global and vector should I avoid getting UT or any megascenery addons or go the other way around?

 

Would a 500GB SSD dedicated to fsx help in reducing issues in long haul flights?

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Hey Flukey, you can have any hard disk won't make a difference, other than loading times. Get plenty of memory >8Gb if you can since Windows cashes everything it gets off the disk if it's got spare memory. Cutting down the number of addon airports and scenery enabled can help, but reduce the sliders to decrease radius or autogen to reduce dramatically the amount of stuff FSX pulls in so it doesn't go over the top.

Steve Waite: Engineer at codelegend.com

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* Hook wonders what jimburke thinks about being called an old geezer. Oh wait, you meant YOU! Never mind.

 

 

Lol, i've been called worse. Funny though that at a glance it looked like he was calling me an old geezer. Although I have never had an OOM in FSX by following my own suggestions.

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Hey Flukey, you can have any hard disk won't make a difference, other than loading times. Get plenty of memory >8Gb if you can since Windows cashes everything it gets off the disk if it's got spare memory. Cutting down the number of addon airports and scenery enabled can help, but reduce the sliders to decrease radius or autogen to reduce dramatically the amount of stuff FSX pulls in so it doesn't go over the top.

 Thx for the tips Steve :)

Lol, i've been called worse. Funny though that at a glance it looked like he was calling me an old geezer. Although I have never had an OOM in FSX by following my own suggestions.

 

 

I can confirm that I was not labelling jimburke an old geezer, or referring to him as a "burke" as in the UK that is considered to be an insult. On the contrary burke is his name.

 

At 56, yes, I do consider myself an old geezer, all be it a very sexy one with big muscles.

While the subject may be morose, the posts here are golden. Good laughs reading through it!

 

On to the OOMs, nowadays as others have said it's all about balance. For me as well if I had to save, shut down, and restart, that'd be a total immersion killer. The key recurring solutions I've seen are to set priority on the visuals.

 

Do you need 4096 clouds? Probably not. 100% autogen? Definitely not. Water on High 2x? Another probably not, lest you're using a floatplane all the time. Are sceneries that you're not using, especially photo-sceneries and ones with photo-scenery as a base active? Try deactivating them while not using them with tools like SceneryConfigEditor.

 

It's all the same argument as for getting FPS and smoothness. Find the balance that 1) gives you the performance you want and 2) gives you the visuals you can live with. "Live with" being the key replacement for "want". With how detailed and stressing addons have become, especially piled on top of eachother, and the infamous 32-bit limitation with VAS, you just have to find a way to make it all work together. Once you find the sweet spot in running your setup, it's golden. Take a day, lower some settings while monitoring VAS, and figure out what works.

Regards,

Kyle

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