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Some great business jets coming out

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I hope it can do well, as it'll provide some good temporary jobs.
 
Soon there after, if they can reach 3 figures in sales, more temporary jobs will be created to fix AD's and metal fatigue.

 

Good Grief.  Some axe grinder you have there?  What pray tell is the source of  the sour mash (you think they were drinking)?

Frank Patton
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Good Grief.

 

 

Ok... the attempt for satire in my previous post was lost, or "flew over" the heads of many. Therefore, I apologize.

 

Having said that; Holy Mother Of God, that thing is ugly!

No problem LeeL. B)

 

Hey Ron,

I am just curious if there are there any plans for revamping the DA-42.  If you guys do plan on revamping it, I hope you guys consider 'upgrading' it to the DA-42-VI.  The performance specs on that thing are awesome such as SE service ceiling of FL180 :blink:   I would feel comfortable flying over the Rockies at night in it lol.

 

https://www.aopa.org/News-and-Video/All-News/2013/August/1/Not-your-fathers-airplane.aspx

 

If I am lucky enough to come across 'buy a real airplane to own/operate' money that is probably what I would go for  B)

"The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." - Douglas Adams
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Tejon 'TJ' Stanley

Ha, didn't even know it existed. We'll take it under advisement for now as we're totally immersed in the Corporate Line at the moment and the GA Line is secondary:-)

 

 


Two things really puzzle me about the Honda Jet: how can those engine mounting booms handle the torque stress, and how did they fit a lav in there!!!

And like the DC-10, I used to always think the no. 2 engine would break off the tail when I was growing up.

Keith Guillory

I've seen the honda jet at Oshkosh, and they had an elaborate display showcasing how they build the plane. The top of the wings is a single massive milled aluminum structure. Engines have been "hanging" from the wings forever, but what is unique with the honda is how far they are from the root. The leverage force is high, so this is the reason for the single sheet for the mount area.

 

 

My bias aside, conversations at the display with other pilots thought it was a concern... hence my simi-joke about temp jobs fixing metal fatigue.

 

Of course they wont be selling to pilots (mostly), but to corporations that want to be different or unique. Only time will tell if its a safe plane. There is plenty of risk (liability) when flying.

Tried and true airframes like the King Airs, Meridians, Cessnas, Lear, and etc are still using  designs from the 50's and 60's because they are well understood and work.

 

Real innovation is in the engines and avionics fields.

 

 


You may Dave, The http://www.eaglesoft...29&p=2883#p2883 link works now..

I for one is looking forward to the fruit of this collaboration on the LES XPX version.  Thanks for the info.

Vu Pham

i7-13700K 5.2 GHz OC, 64 GB RAM, RTX5090, SSD for Sim, SSD for system. MSFS2020, XP-12, DCS

I've seen the honda jet at Oshkosh, and they had an elaborate display showcasing how they build the plane. The top of the wings is a single massive milled aluminum structure. Engines have been "hanging" from the wings forever, but what is unique with the honda is how far they are from the root. The leverage force is high, so this is the reason for the single sheet for the mount area.

 

 

My bias aside, conversations at the display with other pilots thought it was a concern... hence my simi-joke about temp jobs fixing metal fatigue.

 

Of course they wont be selling to pilots (mostly), but to corporations that want to be different or unique. Only time will tell if its a safe plane. There is plenty of risk (liability) when flying.

Tried and true airframes like the King Airs, Meridians, Cessnas, Lear, and etc are still using  designs from the 50's and 60's because they are well understood and work.

 

Real innovation is in the engines and avionics fields.

Well, I have to say that this statement makes a LOT more sense than your original statement!

 

Being a hardware geek that has broken more stuff than he has created, I trust the Honda engineers "engineered" the crap out of this on CADCAM before committing to metal. Although I did warp two sets of brake rotors on my CB900F due to inadequate metallurgy...  Hmmm.

John Howell

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Although I did warp two sets of brake rotors on my CB900F due to inadequate metallurgy...

 

Boy did I misread that the first time.  At first glance I thought you said CBR900.  Metallurgy was improved drastically before that....  Spent 23 years in the motorcycle part of the business, albeit in marketing.  JSUN, the design elements and metallurgy on the HJ have gone thousands of true hours past CADCAM, not to mention the accelerated hours methods in use in virtually every industry (by reputable companies).  Prototype one (blue) has been logging actual flight hours for over 10 years now.

Frank Patton
Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; 
NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener.  
Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126
                       
"I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere

 

 


inadequate metallurgy

 

yea, well you know... that kind of thing is more on the metal manufactures end.  From the Titanic, to the Comet, there are plenty of examples of what the engineers wanted, and what the assembly line received. Sadly so. It might be "overhead", but a many of companies have discovered the true value of a robust QC department after bankruptcy.

Oooooh, time to get my wallet ready ;)

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