http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/malaysia-airlines-mh370-deep-ocean-vessels-may-join-hunt-1.2606264

 

Cheers,

Bloomberg News is reporting that Bluefin 21 has completed its 6th dive to the floor of the indian Ocean & suspected crash site - dive 7 underway.

Also that the oil slick, found near this location, is NOT aircraft related.

All of which raises questions as to whether FL 370 may yet be somewhere else- despite a few apparent pings from 'black boxes'.

I wonder how many fiction writers are hard at work on novels about mysterious airliner disappearances?

january

 

 

 

 

I wonder how many fiction writers are hard at work on novels about mysterious airliner disappearances?

 

Clive Cussler

 

Dirk Pitt is the man, if he can't find MH370 then nobody can

 

All of which raises questions as to whether FL 370 may yet be somewhere else- 

 

Flight Level 370?  :lol:

 

 

Flight Level 370? 

 

Yeh!  He must make sure his altimeter is set to 29.92 or FL370 might be somewhere else....

 

But in all seriousness, the most perplexing element of this mystery is the narrowing of where it is expected it ended flight, and yet absolutely no physical evidence.  Not just that it has not been located.  Instead, no debris identified as coming from the flight.  Not even a shred.

 Instead, no debris identified as coming from the flight.  Not even a shred.

 

I could only speculate that it may still be in very large pieces and sunk to the bottom that way. They claim to be very close so that is about all we have to go on. Until an ROV brings up actual images of that aircraft we just have to sit and wait, and that day still appears to be some time away.

 

New Zealand has estimated to have spent $2.5 million searching so far (I believe it is more then triple that), and I do believe Australia will carry the bulk of the cost of this search and investigation, it is becoming the most expensive search in aviation history. The teams have been doing a tremendous job with this daunting task.

 

 

I could only speculate that it may still be in very large pieces and sunk to the bottom that way.

 

I am not a Vegas odds maker, but I would have to guess that a 777 coming to the end of a flight into water would release something that has enough buoyancy to stay on the surface.  Seat cushions, pieces of luggage, insulation, paper materials, foam cups, clothing items, plastic parts from overhead bins, floor carpet, shoes, oxygen masks, cargo materials and packaging materials (such as from pallets and cushioning materials such as bubble wrap and cushioning from liquefied foam), and other elements too gruesome to list. 

Well...   I wondered how long it would take for a TV program to air about the alleged mishap as though it's all over and the mystery is solved.  Saw it today on the Smithsonian Channel...  They left it slightly open-ended.  I still think it is elsewhere, and NOT in the ocean.  But I'm strange like that.

but I would have to guess that a 777 coming to the end of a flight into water would release something that has enough buoyancy to stay on the surface.

 

Yes and hard to visualize an airplane the size of a 777 not breaking up on impact with an always, at best, heaving sea surface.

To visualize the impact, study the pics of the 777 crash at KSFO. The impact there would be very similar to that of a tail strike on touchdown with the ocean. Water (nor concrete) is not compressible. 

I still wonder what interesting items might be listed on the cargo manifest.

january

If the plane ran out of fuel with everyone unconscious, it is highly unlikely that it suffered a "tail strike" impact with the ocean.

Still got my doubts about  the crash  being in the ocean now, since by now  they would have found some floating debris from the Aircraft, suggest that everything  sank seems unrealistic.  The Malaysian Govt I believe know more  than what they are telling everyone (IMO). 

If the plane ran out of fuel with everyone unconscious, it is highly unlikely that it suffered a "tail strike" impact with the ocean.

It is also unlikely it crashed as controlled flight into terrain at 115 kts...

If the plane ran out of fuel with everyone unconscious, it is highly unlikely that it suffered a "tail strike" impact with the ocean.

The options for a plane going "into the drink" are either tail down as in a normal landing- but with gear not down - causing a tail strike  OR-

In stall attitude with the consequence of one wing drooping and contacting the water. In this scenario, aircraft disintegration is almost assured.

Since no debris has been found, one would suspect a tail down water impact.

We have no info as to whether (or IF) a human or auto pilot  was managing the airplane at impact, so speculation is not very productive.

For pictures of a 767 landing on a CALM ocean surface- see WikiPedia for Ethiopian Airlines FL 961 ditching due to fuel starvation, near the Comoros Islands and under human control.

january

The options for a plane going "into the drink" are either tail down as in a normal landing- but with gear not down - causing a tail strike  OR-

In stall attitude with the consequence of one wing drooping and contacting the water. In this scenario, aircraft disintegration is almost assured.

Since no debris has been found, one would suspect a tail down water impact.

We have no info as to whether (or IF) a human or auto pilot  was managing the airplane at impact, so speculation is not very productive.

For pictures of a 767 landing on a CALM ocean surface- see WikiPedia for Ethiopian Airlines FL 961 ditching due to fuel starvation, near the Comoros Islands and under human control.

january

As has been stated, there is debate as to whether the pilot was in control or fighting the terrorists at the time of 961 and even in calm waters they think landing against the current instead of with it contributed to the destruction.  

 

The options for a plane going "into the drink" are either tail down as in a normal landing- but with gear not down - causing a tail strike

 

Surely "tail down" requires a controlled landing attitude? With nobody controlling the plane, would it not just glide down? In other words, nose first?