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Looking for an addon to set approaches easier...

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Hello again guys, i have wrote here before when i had problem with which flight planner i want to buy, but its solved.

But now im looking for an addon which can make the pmdg flights much faster and easier. 

Im looking for an addon which can set settings for me. I want most for approaches so it sets the nav radio etc. 

I need something like a co pilot, who can do the things for me :) 

I have looked at fs2crew, but that i have seen, you are not able to tell co pilot to set the approach options for you.

If there is not exist such an addon where something can set your approach, then it may be a addon closest do this.

 

 

Thanks if you take time to read this and help me ;)

 

math341c.

 

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I have looked at fs2crew, but that i have seen, you are not able to tell co pilot to set the approach options for you.

 

Excerpt from the FS2Crew manual (showing that you can have the FO change all of that for you):

 

RADIOS:

- SWAP COMM 1
- SWAP COMM 2
- SWAP NAV 1
- SWAP NAV 2


- SET COURSE ON MY SIDE XXX 
- SET COURSE ON YOUR SIDE XXX
- SET XXX POINT XX ON NAV 1
- SET XXX POINT XX ON NAV 2
- SET XXX POINT XX ON COMM 1
- SET XXX POINT XX ON COMM 2


NOTES:

1. You can use "DECIMAL" in place of "POINT".
2. You can also set the STANDBY radios by speaking "STANDBY" in front of COMM or NAV.

 

 

 

In any case, if you're waiting so late that it's to the point that you can't do it yourself, you're not staying ahead of the aircraft.

Kyle Rodgers

What you mean to set by side? But you can't click something like set nav radio for me to the destination frequency ?

 

Or it will set airport elevation for you without using the gauges manually ?

 

Thanks for first reply :)

Just have a peek at FSI Panel. I'll reach altitude on departure and then switch to FSIP for the final phase of flight. Very kool!

Gary, CIMEL, retired FAA Controller & all around good guy!
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Sorry but i don't know what you talking about. What is this, a program, a Gauge....?

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What you mean to set by side?

 

There are two sets of nav and comm radios.  Pay attention next time you're looking at the pedestal...

 

"My side" would be the captain side.  "Your side" would be the FO side.

 

 

 


But you can't click something like set nav radio for me to the destination frequency ?

 

If you're going to be clicking on things, you might as well click and set the frequency yourself.

 

 

 


Or it will set airport elevation for you without using the gauges manually ?

 

It will for the pressurization panel, yes.

Kyle Rodgers

Hi math341c,

 

What exactly is your problem? Don't you

a - find the time to dial in the ILS frequency and approach course, or do you

b - have problems to figure out what the correct frequencies and courses are?

 

If a: It's a matter of seconds with the mousewheel. And when using FS2Crew voice control, you can have your F/O set them for you by saying "Set course on my side 247" and "Set course on your side 247" (meaning the left and right course knobs). Same for the NAV radios: "Set 109.1 on NAV 1" and "Set 109.1 on NAV 2". Of course, you need to know the correct frequency and course before.

 

If b: Approach charts are the way to go (same for threshold elevation and decision height)

 

Edit: Kyle beat me :-)

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Hi math341c,

 

What exactly is your problem? Don't you

a - find the time to dial in the ILS frequency and approach course, or do you

b - have problems to figure out what the correct frequencies and courses are?

 

If a: It's a matter of seconds with the mousewheel. And when using FS2Crew voice control, you can have your F/O set them for you by saying "Set course on my side 247" and "Set course on your side 247" (meaning the left and right course knobs). Same for the NAV radios: "Set 109.1 on NAV 1" and "Set 109.1 on NAV 2". Of course, you need to know the correct frequency and course before.

 

If b: Approach charts are the way to go (same for threshold elevation and decision height)

 

Edit: Kyle beat me :-)

Im looking for a program, where i can just click or say, "Please set the approach to the destionation and the runway xxx" And something will set the nav and courses for me.

Because i wanted to land in Kathmandu.

I made a flight plan with fsc. Added all the stars and sids i dont know what is. And i wanted to land in Kathmandu i go to fsx map, and i click on runway 2, but there was no ils frequency´s??

But the stars what is it? FSC sets paths from many directions at the airport, when im selecting all stars?

Then i did not know what the ils frequency was, then i just skipped that, and i want to land manually, but i headed to one of the star paths. I tried vor loc, did not worked, but i clicked approach and the plane was heading straight to the runway, but i was need to self control the vertical speed? How its possible?

I found a great program for you: It's called FMC and you can find it beside your right leg if you fly as captain. That program can set approach and runway you want, and it can tell you ILS course and frequency. Additionally you can use program called "approach plate", that graphically and textually present you approaches, departures, arrivals... for almost every airport in the world.

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Im looking for a program, where i can just click or say, "Please set the approach to the destionation and the runway xxx" And something will set the nav and courses for me.

Because i wanted to land in Kathmandu.

I made a flight plan with fsc. Added all the stars and sids i dont know what is. And i wanted to land in Kathmandu i go to fsx map, and i click on runway 2, but there was no ils frequency´s??

But the stars what is it? FSC sets paths from many directions at the airport, when im selecting all stars?

Then i did not know what the ils frequency was, then i just skipped that, and i want to land manually, but i headed to one of the star paths. I tried vor loc, did not worked, but i clicked approach and the plane was heading straight to the runway, but i was need to self control the vertical speed? How its possible?

 

 

Ahhhhh...

 

I see what's going on here.  You're looking for a magic bullet to solve all of your problems because you went diving into the deep end of the pool without knowing first how to swim.

 

First, not all airports have ILS, so that answers the no ILS question (it doesn't have ILS because of all of the mountains).

 

I have no idea what the STARs are like over there, so I can't answer that, but here's a video explaining what they are, if you don't know already:

 

When you refer to FSC, are you referring to FSCommander?  I'm guessing that's not helping you, as it's doing the work for you, instead of allowing you to understand the routes themselves.

 

As far as your confusion on why the plane wasn't autolanding, see this:

(Autoland requires ILS - currently - so if you don't have ILS, you have to land the plane yourself.  It's not hard.  Try it sometime.)

 

 

 

 

 

My suggestion would be for you to have a look at the tutorials a few times.  Perhaps some route planning and approach type tutorials.  Without knowing the basics, trying to operate a study sim like the NGX isn't going to be very enjoyable.

 

Basics first.

Then the advanced stuff (complex aircraft like the NGX).

Kyle Rodgers

 

(Autoland requires ILS - currently - so if you don't have ILS, you have to land the plane yourself.  It's not hard.  Try it sometime.)

 

 

Ohh, is that what that oddly expensive "half a Steering-wheel" thing sitting on my desk does :P

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Ahhhhh...

 

I see what's going on here.  You're looking for a magic bullet to solve all of your problems because you went diving into the deep end of the pool without knowing first how to swim.

 

First, not all airports have ILS, so that answers the no ILS question (it doesn't have ILS because of all of the mountains).

 

I have no idea what the STARs are like over there, so I can't answer that, but here's a video explaining what they are, if you don't know already:

 

When you refer to FSC, are you referring to FSCommander?  I'm guessing that's not helping you, as it's doing the work for you, instead of allowing you to understand the routes themselves.

 

As far as your confusion on why the plane wasn't autolanding, see this:

(Autoland requires ILS - currently - so if you don't have ILS, you have to land the plane yourself.  It's not hard.  Try it sometime.)

 

 

 

 

 

My suggestion would be for you to have a look at the tutorials a few times.  Perhaps some route planning and approach type tutorials.  Without knowing the basics, trying to operate a study sim like the NGX isn't going to be very enjoyable.

 

Basics first.

Then the advanced stuff (complex aircraft like the NGX).

Thanks i have good news. So me and my friend, made a new flightplan with FSC, we made a high altitude plan and added all stars. It was from Aalborg, a city in Denmark to Oslo. We made a fully autoland but there was some strange things.

1. VNAV never wanted to engage.  

2. When we wanted to make approach we chosed the 1R runway on approach section in fmc, and clicked  and i could chose different types of stars?

we chosed a random. But then our route disappeared and lnav stopped working also, and the fmc said "discontinuity" when we tried to engage lnav.

We wanted to give up, but we saw that there was a path on the map straight to runway we chosed, then we just want to try. The path was striped. 

3.We flied closer to that path to try the luck.

4.We tried our luck, i clicked on loc. And it loc sucessfully! We engaged app, and sucesfully worked. And second autopilot and sucess autoland!

5. The most strange was, we set the nav radio of course, but the plane my friend has, doesn't have the green screen where you can write elevation and length? And yes he bought it legit? 

6. He also did not had that screen you can pull down so you can see the runway.

7. Without elevation and length set, still sucess land?

 

We want to autoland as this guy, you can see his path is moving? Who he doing it?

Kyle, you deserve a Gold Medal from Tom for your infinite patience. In fact your 'diving in at the deep end' was an analogy that first sprung to my mind, but you had already stated it. If nobody can follow your add-on Tutorials, and successfully carry out T/os, landings, et al, then it beats me.

Rick Almeida

Hello nameless guy.

 

I would recommend reading the intro manual.

 

 

 


Thanks i have good news. So me and my friend, made a new flightplan with FSC, we made a high altitude plan and added all stars. It was from Aalborg, a city in Denmark to Oslo. We made a fully autoland but there was some strange things.
1. VNAV never wanted to engage.  

 

Not enough data... VNAV needs some conditions to engage. How do I know whether you fulfilled them?

 

 

 


2. When we wanted to make approach we chosed the 1R runway on approach section in fmc, and clicked  and i could chose different types of stars?
we chosed a random. But then our route disappeared and lnav stopped working also, and the fmc said "discontinuity" when we tried to engage lnav.
We wanted to give up, but we saw that there was a path on the map straight to runway we chosed, then we just want to try. The path was striped. 

 

Well of course if you choose random, it will be from a random direction... it will lead from wherever. And discontinuity is a normal thing, FMC is telling you it has no idea how should it get from last part of route to first part of STAR. It's like I told you how to get from Washington to Philly and then that you need to take second left in New Jersey. But how would you know how to get from Philly to New Jersey?

 

Striped path means missed approach track. Where you go if you can't land.

 

 


3.We flied closer to that path to try the luck.


4.We tried our luck, i clicked on loc. And it loc sucessfully! We engaged app, and sucesfully worked. And second autopilot and sucess autoland!

 

Luck indeed.

 

Continued below.


5. The most strange was, we set the nav radio of course, but the plane my friend has, doesn't have the green screen where you can write elevation and length? And yes he bought it legit? 
 

 

Sure, that is depending on livery you fly. That panel is part of HGS system. If the livery has it defined that that airline does not have HGS, you will not have the panel.

 

 

6. He also did not had that screen you can pull down so you can see the runway.
 

 

Same as above, his livery has it defined that there is no HGS, therefore no HUD combiner.

 

 

7. Without elevation and length set, still sucess land?
 

 

HGS panel only sets your HUD visuals up. Autoland does not use that.

 

 

 

You really should read intro manual and tutorial number 1.

--Peter Fabian 
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Read that manual 3 times and do the tutorials. The biggest mistake (as mentioned previously) is trying to fly a high end aircraft without understanding the basics about ILS, RNAV, SIDS/STARS, programming and using FMC.

 

When I bought the the PMDG 737NG in FS2004 I was so overwhelmed by the FMC that I gave up for a month. But then I pulled out the manuals, went through the FMC set up process step by step until I understood it. When I got the PMDG NGX in FSX, I reviewed the manuals again to re-learn new aspects of the model.

 

Good luck 

Rob Marton

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