Philly to New Jersey?

Think terming that particular city in Pa. would confuse him even more as he and his accomplice seem from the posts, to be shoot-in-the-dark and hope for the best, nevertheless, a very helpful reply.

Ok got my self some solutions and comments.

1. Solution: For VNAV to work you have to fill in the PERF page so that the FMS knows the weight of the plane etc and can therefore calculate the climb profile etc.

2. Comment: When we do flightplan with fsc it does not make a route direct to the runway we want to land on. First we need to decent and the airport will tell us on what runway we may land on, We chosed 1R on approach page, selected a star and it just removes our route. So how could we miss an approach, the route we made with fsc, made a path to the middle of the airport not to runway. What are we doing wrong? I never clicked on fmc we missed an approach.

"...and added all stars..."

 

May I say with all due respect, if your statement above is actually true, if you really think you added multiple stars to your route...you need to step back and learn a little basics about IFR flying before flying the 737NGX. You cannot add multiple stars to a route and while you may have thought you did, you didn't.

 

"... and the airport will tell us on what runway we may land on..."

 

Not sure if you really believe that or if you're just making a general statement but you are going wrong in so many areas I don't know how you even hope to be able to complete a flight. You seem to be programming the FMC route while you are in the air. While you can do this, YOU shouldn't. Why not program it on the ground and just fly it? For beginners, it's a lot easier that way.

 

However, more importantly, after reading of your "adventures" in flying the 737NGX, it's clear that you need to listen to the others on this thread who are giving you sound advice, far better advice than I can give you. The 737NGX is not an airplane that you can just jump into the cockpit and take off and fly. Study is needed. Learning is needed. It takes time.

 

You're having many, many problems because you don't understand what you are doing but more importantly, when something does work, that doesn't mean you're doing it right. You not only have to know what to do, but when.

 

 

So how could we miss an approach, the route we made with fsc, made a path to the middle of the airport not to runway. What are we doing wrong? I

 

You had an approach procedure but did not enter a runway "transition" procedure. Approach procedure--To the airport.   Transition procedure----To the runway.

okay I'll just add one more comment here.

 

Today there is a Delta Flight from KMIA-KLGA. The flight crew have a predetermined route that they will fly and will program into the FMC. This is that route:

 

.  VALLY1 VALLY PERMT AR16 ILM J40 TYI HPW J191 PXT KORRY3

 

The route is based upon the weather at KMIA and the weather at KLGA. In the route above VALLY1 is the SID and KORRY3 is the STAR. You will also notice that no runway is mentioned. That is because ATC will assign a runway.

 

My point is, besides studying the manual and learning the basics, you need to also understand the departure/arrival weather forecast, and have a good understanding about which SID and STAR is appropriate based upon wind direction and from which direction you will be departing to/arriving from.

 

But Rendi stated it best, you cannot fly the NGX by the seat of your pants.

It seems that Ryan who spent so much time and energy writing up the Tutorials wasted his efforts if this is what the OP gets into-----the deep end without learning to swim.

Dude please don't play so smart, it's really annoying me.

And to the others i really respect your help, I have readed the manuals and seen video's. Me and my friend can still not fully get it. We understand every single thing on this plane except the fmc, we can't get the fmc fully.

 

Now I'm working on to get the vnav to work, what i need to write in fuel reserve ?

 

Thanks for all help you did for now

 

math

"...We understand every single thing on this plane except the fmc..."

 

Well, I'm done...

vc10man sorry for my last post.

I found out many things now. I forgot to make transitions and I need to make one star and sid, i saw just a video. I'm gonna try again tomorrow and write to you back

So much nastiness and mockery here. You can tell the guy that he needs more experience (which he does) without insulting him.

OK im sorry guys, but you not completely understand i see. When we say we understand each thing, we mean how to turn engine of the plane, its overhead panel functions etc. And we just not get the fmc, im just training now to make a flight plan in fsc, but i still cannot understand how the runway can be planed before flight, the airport need to say what runway me may landon, am i not right?

It does not seem to me, it seems you don't fully understand HGS, radios, AP...

 

plus you don't understand some IFR principles that are external to the aircraft.

You do seem to be tryingto learn it, which is good though. I do believe in a couple of weeks you will be at home in the 737.

OK im sorry guys, but you not completely understand i see. When we say we understand each thing, we mean how to turn engine of the plane, its overhead panel functions etc. And we just not get the fmc, im just training now to make a flight plan in fsc, but i still cannot understand how the runway can be planed before flight, the airport need to say what runway me may landon, am i not right?

OK, slow it down and break it into smaller steps.

 

Planning - You want to go from A to B....you get what is needed to depart A and arrive at B...one of the most important is Weather...it will dictate fuel required, payload, operating runway and the approaches you need to perform.

 

Excution - Once you work the route you need, you will have the fuel required, select your payload (passengers and freight) and make sure the runway you select has sufficient lenght for the weight and weather conditions of your flight. This phase has you entering the required information into the FMC. This means, departure and destination, weights, route and departure information. Some people like to also enter destination (STAR or Standard Arrival Route) before departure. Check your FMC for  any errors or issues with the route. When you are satisfied, you are ready to start the engines

 

Flying - If you have executed the above two steps correctly and methodically, you will be ahead of the aeroplane, which is a very good feeling.

 

Kudos to you for asking the questions, Avsim is a good community, just some people get a little carried away as they believe their own publicity a little too much, but you will find a lot of helpful and knowledgeable members.

OK, slow it down and break it into smaller steps.

 

Planning - You want to go from A to B....you get what is needed to depart A and arrive at B...one of the most important is Weather...it will dictate fuel required, payload, operating runway and the approaches you need to perform.

 

Excution - Once you work the route you need, you will have the fuel required, select your payload (passengers and freight) and make sure the runway you select has sufficient lenght for the weight and weather conditions of your flight. This phase has you entering the required information into the FMC. This means, departure and destination, weights, route and departure information. Some people like to also enter destination (STAR or Standard Arrival Route) before departure. Check your FMC for  any errors or issues with the route. When you are satisfied, you are ready to start the engines

 

Flying - If you have executed the above two steps correctly and methodically, you will be ahead of the aeroplane, which is a very good feeling.

 

Kudos to you for asking the questions, Avsim is a good community, just some people get a little carried away as they believe their own publicity a little too much, but you will find a lot of helpful and knowledgeable members.

Thank you very much for help. But im already now how to set somethings, me and my friend train together. But when we do a flight:

FMC

We are writing origin, and getting irs position.

The plan is made with fsc so we load it up trough co route. 

We are activating the route and execute, we can see the route pink color on map. 

We are writing take of flaps etc.

And we are writing gross weight and reserve fuel etc.

We take off and vnav working fine and following the route. 

 

When we need to decent and approach:

Approach section, here is the page we dont fully understand.

So here are the pics we made of flightplan:

It´s a route from Kathmandu to Bangkok.

 

 

 

The take off airport:

 

 

The whole plan we made:

 

landing airport:

 

So everything looks as it should? And the thing we dont understand, that why we need to select a runway to land on, before flight? Many things can happen and we may need to land on anohter runway, so how can we change the runway to land on, on fmc? Because it just deleting the flight plan we made. How can we just change runway, so it just edit the route.

Changing landing runway doesn't delete flight plan. You can do it at anytime inflight, but for practice purposes it's best to enter whole FP before you start the engines because in that way you have infinite time to set up departure, route, arrival and approach, select runways, close discontinuities. When you become experienced enough you can try to change it in flight.