April 29, 201412 yr I know there is no exact answer to this but I am just trying to find a ballpark FPS that if I have my system tuned right I should be getting. For the example I used I had these add-ons running. PMDG 737 ASN REX 4 UT2 100% commerical traffic 0% GA traffic FSDT KDFW My scenery settings in the sim were what is suggested in the avsim guide. So if I remember correctly Mesh complexity 100 mesh resolution 2 texture resolution 7 water effects low 2.x scenery complexity extremely dense auto gen normal all traffic at 5% I am using NO FPS limiter, and am using Nvidia inspector and followed the guide here on the site. In the VC I was getting anywhere from 24-28 FPS at the gate, when taxiing away from the terminal I was getting around 32 FPS, and during takeoff and climb out it was around 19-21 FPS. Once airborne around the vicinity of the airport I was getting 23-26 FPS. Also with regards to REX 4 what is the difference between DXT 5 and 32 bit compression algorithm? I have been using 32 bit but I am not sure which option is better. Thank you in advance.
April 29, 201412 yr Commercial Member UT2 100% commerical traffic 0% GA traffic This will wreck your performance. Reduce it to about 50% if you absolutely *must* see AI Traffic while flying. Also, there is no way anyone here can help you if you don't list your PC Specs. Please complete the form in your profile so we have a point of reference! Aamir Thacker
April 29, 201412 yr Author This will wreck your performance. Reduce it to about 50% if you absolutely *must* see AI Traffic while flying. Also, there is no way anyone here can help you if you don't list your PC Specs. Please complete the form in your profile so we have a point of reference! I will do that thank you for reminding me about that.
April 29, 201412 yr Asking for your FPS without giving your specs is like asking how much time to complete a lap around Nürburgring without saying which car you're driving Jaime Beneyto My real life aviation and flight simulation videos [English and Spanish] System: i9 9900k OC 5.0 GHz | RTX 2080 Super | 32GB DDR4 3200MHz | Asus Z390-F
April 29, 201412 yr Author Asking for your FPS without giving your specs is like asking how much time to complete a lap around Nürburgring without saying which car you're driving Yea I added the info that I could understand.
April 29, 201412 yr Yea I added the info that I could understand. Thanks, You have a very decent PC. While your sim is "flyable" as it is now, I think you might want to review Ryan's guide on the Nvidia Inspector settings and limit your FPS to 30. You didn't specify which guide you followed. Also, I recommend you review NickN's guide. It's very long but completely worth the read: http://www.simforums.com/forums/the-fsx-computer-system-the-bible-by-nickn_topic46211.html AI traffic is a FPS killer. Bring it down to 30%. Also, moving cars are absolute killers, don't go higher than 10% on those. In fact, if you can live without traffic and cars, get rid of them completely. Jaime Beneyto My real life aviation and flight simulation videos [English and Spanish] System: i9 9900k OC 5.0 GHz | RTX 2080 Super | 32GB DDR4 3200MHz | Asus Z390-F
April 29, 201412 yr Author Thanks, You have a very decent PC. While your sim is "flyable" as it is now, I think you might want to review Ryan's guide on the Nvidia Inspector settings and limit your FPS to 30. AI traffic is a FPS killer. Bring it down to 30%. Also, moving cars are absolute killers, don't go higher than 10% on those. In fact, if you can live without traffic and cars, get rid of them completely. I will try and find that thank you. Are those still the recommended settings even though the guide appears to be about 2 years old?
April 29, 201412 yr I will try and find that thank you. Are those still the recommended settings even though the guide appears to be about 2 years old? Sure. The guide is old but FSX is even older (2006), so the principles still apply. Now is when you come to realize that FSX is an obsolete platform incapable of handling high-end PCs. However, consider that you're flying: a) The most FPS-consuming addon aircraft there is for FSX b) Real time, complex weather and clouds c) From a very high detail airport d) With a lot of AI traffic To me at least, the FPS you're getting are okay. Jaime Beneyto My real life aviation and flight simulation videos [English and Spanish] System: i9 9900k OC 5.0 GHz | RTX 2080 Super | 32GB DDR4 3200MHz | Asus Z390-F
April 29, 201412 yr Is the sim rendered in a smooth fashion or are there pauses and stutters? My computer: ABS Gladiator Gaming PC featuring an Intel 10700F CPU, EVGA CLC-240 AIO cooler (dead fans replaced with Noctua fans), Asus Tuf Gaming B460M Plus motherboard, 16GB DDR4-3000 RAM, 1 TB NVMe SSD, EVGA RTX3070 FTW3 video card, dead EVGA 750 watt power supply replaced with Antec 900 watt PSU.
April 29, 201412 yr Sportsfan, If you are getting those framerates with a detailed payware aircraft, detailed payware scenery and airport addons, and 100% UT2 AI traffic, and you are not suffering from OOMs, then I would stick with it! It seems that some people don't mind very low levels of AI traffic (or even none at all), but I really couldn't live without it at the large airports. It certainly stresses FSX to its limits, but I make other compromises before thinkiing about removing the AI traffic. This is what makes FSX "come alive" as far as I am concerned. Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
April 29, 201412 yr I would suggest you follow the guidance in the AVSIM FSX Configuration Guide located to the right of this forum under Hot Spots. AVSIM has provided some excellent guidance to get you up and running with excellent fps. I have stated several times here on AVSIM that when you first install FSX/Acceleration, you can get up to 300 fps (I did easily with my current system). No stuttering, no blurries, and great performance. Then you start adding scenery and aircraft and the frames start dropping. This is why AVSIM recommends you disable any addon scenery you won't be using during a flight, especially if it's photoscenery. There are many more excellent suggestions in the AVSIM guide that might improve your overall FSX experiences. In regards to AI programs, I have MyTrafficX and the developer recommends a setting no higher than 25%. I found that if you select an AI schedule, you will get less traffic at airports. That's because your AI is following a schedule and you will have to sit there at the airport for some time for the flights to arrive and begin to fill up the gates. I have my setting in MyTrafficX at 20% and all of my airports are packed with aircraft at almost every gate and flights incoming/departing constantly. I did not select one of the schedules. I just installed the product and that's it. I don't know if this can be accomplished with UT2 but you might uncheck schedules if you have that option and see what happens. Hope this helps. Best regards, Jim Young | AVSIM Online! - Simming's Premier Resource! Member, AVSIM Board of Directors - Serving AVSIM since 2001 Submit News to AVSIMImportant other links: Basic FSX Configuration Guide | AVSIM CTD Guide | AVSIM Prepar3D Guide | Help with AVSIM Site | Signature Rules | Screen Shot Rule | AVSIM Terms of Service (ToS) I7 8086K 5.0GHz | GTX 1080 TI OC Edition | Dell 34" and 24" Monitors | ASUS Maximus X Hero MB Z370 | Samsung M.2 NVMe 500GB and 1TB | Samsung SSD 500GB x2 | Toshiba HDD 1TB | WDC HDD 1TB | Corsair H115i Pro | 16GB DDR4 3600C17 | Windows 10
April 29, 201412 yr Author Is the sim rendered in a smooth fashion or are there pauses and stutters? Yea the sim is very smooth. There are a few minor stutters here and there on the ground at those payware airports but I figure those can't be helped since I am running so many different things. I just wanted to make sure I was not hampering my system by doing the tweaks I did. Sportsfan, If you are getting those framerates with a detailed payware aircraft, detailed payware scenery and airport addons, and 100% UT2 AI traffic, and you are not suffering from OOMs, then I would stick with it! It seems that some people don't mind very low levels of AI traffic (or even none at all), but I really couldn't live without it at the large airports. It certainly stresses FSX to its limits, but I make other compromises before thinkiing about removing the AI traffic. This is what makes FSX "come alive" as far as I am concerned. Then i'll just stick with it. Like I mentioned I just wanted to make sure that I was at least making positive changes to the sim and not somehow messing it up. I don't know if this can be accomplished with UT2 but you might uncheck schedules if you have that option and see what happens. I guess if you want to utilize all of UT2's plane routes you need to have it set to 100%. It's the most "realistic" setting you can get at least that is what they say.
April 29, 201412 yr I guess if you want to utilize all of UT2's plane routes you need to have it set to 100%. It's the most "realistic" setting you can get at least that is what they say. That is correct. UT2 does not work like other AI traffic software. You need to set it to 100% to get all of the scheduled traffic to appear. MyTraffic X generates traffic such that a setting of only 25 or 30% is enough to fill most of the gates at large airports. On a side note, I conducted a short test flight at EGPF Glasgow (the UK2000 Xtreme version) tonight. I use UT2 @ 100%, and an Easyjet A319 appeared in my parking spot after I had pushed back. After a quick circuit of the airport in the pattern, I landed, and discovered that all of the parking spots were occupied. I waited for a couple of airliners to depart, but each time they pushed back, another airliner appeared in the same place! There was clearly a backlog of traffic that was waiting in the twilight zone, so I just trundled up to the end of one of the aprons, and parked my 737NGX with a nice view of the runway :smile: Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
April 29, 201412 yr Yea the sim is very smooth. There are a few minor stutters here and there on the ground at those payware airports but I figure those can't be helped since I am running so many different things. I just wanted to make sure I was not hampering my system by doing the tweaks I did. Frame rate is not important in FSX. If you try to chase FPS you will go nuts. FSX is about smoothness and as you already said its smooth, leave it alone. I run PMDG 777, REX 4, ASN, OpusFSX and UT2 at 100% at UK2000 EGLL with a similar set up and mine is also smooth, don't care about the FPS. If you must know, my FPS is similar to yours. Ric Elmore
April 29, 201412 yr yep the saying still applies.... If it's not broke...don't fix it steve REX SKYFORCE 3D steve howlett
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