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Just out of curiosity I would like to ask about this developer.

I remember, long time ago I had their 737 for FS9, and it was great plane to fly, I enjoyed her so much.

I am wondering why this developer is banned, or even expelled from FS world?

There are no any news, no even customers who claims,praise or doing some sort of comparisons, simply utter silence.

Why AD is such niche developer ?

They do great 737, a bit pricey with troublesome activation, but finally their 737 is really nice.

So why ?

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I believe it was because they had no support at all.

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It's actually a little more involved. The "problem" goes back some 15 years now. Fire up Google and search for Ariane Design. Lots of good reading. Also, search for Peter Tishma. More good reading. Lack of support was/is a major issue but there's more to the story. Nothing like a little intrigue..... :rolleyes:

 

Doug

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Just forget them, simply buy the PMDG 737, end of. Or iFly for P3D.

 

The above only ever made money because no one else had made a 737.

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April 2001. I was in Kuwait and got a message from American Airlines, returning my call. Subject; Tishma's "rights" under their license agreement. What an enlightening conversation that was for the AA folks.

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1. The base airplane is very very expensive, there is no liveries only the Boeing colour, for only 1 model like 737-800. If you want the 737-900 or 737-700 too, you have to pay the same price again.

 

2. For liveries I don´t know,  5-6 Liveries? You have to pay again.

 

3 You are not allowed to paint some liveries and upload it on avsim.

 

and so on.

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April 2001. I was in Kuwait and got a message from American Airlines, returning my call. Subject; Tishma's "rights" under their license agreement. What an enlightening conversation that was for the AA folks.

 

I remember those days so well Tom. One thing about Peter, he had big ones.....

 

Doug

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1. The base airplane is very very expensive, there is no liveries only the Boeing colour, for only 1 model like 737-800. If you want the 737-900 or 737-700 too, you have to pay the same price again.

 

2. For liveries I don´t know,  5-6 Liveries? You have to pay again.

 

3 You are not allowed to paint some liveries and upload it on avsim.

 

and so on.

 

I'm stunned. :Hypnotized:

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I met Peter Tishma when I visited the RC Simulation's FS Show at the National Motorcycle Museum near Birmingham, England in the late 90's or early noughties. Pete Dowson was with me and PT was sucking up to him big time. I'll not forget that for a while.

 

Those were happy days when we had annual shows where you could meet so many people you only knew on forums. :smile:

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I met Peter Tishma when I visited the RC Simulation's FS Show at the National Motorcycle Museum near Birmingham, England in the late 90's or early noughties. Pete Dowson was with me and PT was sucking up to him big time. I'll not forget that for a while.

 

Was PT wearing his airline pilot's uniform with the four gold bars (like he did at another show / convention)?  :rolleyes:

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Was PT wearing his airline pilot's uniform with the four gold bars (like he did at another show / convention)? :rolleyes:

 

:Big Grin: I'm sure I would have remembered that Tom. No, I think he was in civvies. Perhaps the uniform was at the cleaners.

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I met Peter Tishma when I visited the RC Simulation's FS Show at the National Motorcycle Museum near Birmingham, England in the late 90's or early noughties. Pete Dowson was with me and PT was sucking up to him big time. I'll not forget that for a while.

 

Those were happy days when we had annual shows where you could meet so many people you only knew on forums. :smile:

 

God, how I miss those days. Those of us who have been simming for 25-30 years really have to reflect on how lucky we are. There was even a time when we talked about flight parameters and FDE's instead of bird flocks and missing cruise ships. Or, maybe it's just the musings of an old man.....

 

Doug

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Why would anyone look any further than PMDG or iFly, for an accurate 737NG experience in flight simulator? People...it does not get any better than these two Boeings! (unless you just go out and buy a real one.)

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God, how I miss those days. Those of us who have been simming for 25-30 years really have to reflect on how lucky we are. There was even a time when we talked about flight parameters and FDE's instead of bird flocks and missing cruise ships. Or, maybe it's just the musings of an old man.....

 

Old? You're not old Doug. Methuselah, now that's old! :Big Grin:

 

Ah yes, the days when CompuServe ruled and you were just a number. 100651.450. That was me. God, I'm showing my age. :BigGrin:  Can't say I remember FDEs or flight parameters but I do remember flying in DOS and worrying that 640kb of memory was going to run out!


 

 


People...it does not get any better than these two Boeings! (unless you just go out and buy a real one.)

 

Well if you want to get to places really quickly there is always Concorde. 23 miles a minute at 60,000ft and sipping champagne. Everything else is just too slow. :wink:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3e5i6SGOtA

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Interesting info and links. Before my time as a simmer, but interesting (and sad) nonetheless. Thanks for the history!

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A lot of nostalgia came into this post :), but still there is no answer why people do not talk even about AD ?, if nobody is buying their planes so how they stay in this business for so many years ?.

Now AD is doing something completely new - new secret project is going on.

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I met Peter Tishma when I visited the RC Simulation's FS Show at the National Motorcycle Museum near Birmingham, England in the late 90's or early noughties. Pete Dowson was with me and PT was sucking up to him big time. I'll not forget that for a while.

 

Those were happy days when we had annual shows where you could meet so many people you only knew on forums. :smile:

 

Hi Ray..

 

Wasn't that Tishma's show setup that I did my keyboard flight in the Lear under Tower Bridge ?

 

I used to fly using the keyboard then. I recall that he was a little mad when he found that I had edited the config file to accommodate my keyboard commands for the throttle and flaps, which I used at that time. I had to disable his stick and yoke in order to use the keyboard. I dunno why he was so mad....I had made a backup first... :rolleyes:

 

(which BTW I still use, Ctrl/del for full deployment, Ctrl/* for full retract & '*' for full throttle/'.' for throttle cut)

 

It was a good show that year - I think that is when I ordered my UK VFR scenery - the first photoreal product for the UK....(..and suffered a domestic after the wife found that I'd spent almost £100 on scenery for a 'Game'...)

 

Regards

Bill

 

 

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Mornin' Bill,

 

I vaguely remember you flying the Lear using the keyboard. Crikey, that took some skill! But the show at the NMM went on for many years and I'm sure it was Bob Sidgewick of RC Sims that organised it. Tishma just turned up and made out he was the big cheese.

 

I don't recall any of PT's software other than the Ariane 737 and I never went near it mainly because of the price and the growing negative publicity.

 

I remember the 2003 show because some bright spark had organised a computer fair on the same day and the traffic and parking was horrendous. I parked about a mile away and was so fed up I treated myself to GoFlight modules. I probably beat your £100 but didn't have to answer to anyone. :wink:  I hope you did some serious sucking up to placate her. :BigGrin:  Game indeed! :rolleyes:

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Is Ariane actually in business?  I notice the copyright date on their home page is 2007 and they seem to be oriented to XP and VIsta more than anything else in their ad copy....

 

DJ

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Apart from the fact that the DUB waypoint I entered in,was never the correct one,and you had to pay again to re-activate the software,should you upgrade your PC. 

Not been installed since the PMDG NGX came out. 

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