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Hi dev-team,

 

I was wondering which models are being modeled on the upcoming 744v2 e.g. 74J (-400D), 74E (-400M), 74H (-8i), 74N (-8f), LCF etc...

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I think only the popular ones,

 

747-400 and the -8 (both I believe are coming in freighter as well).

 

I personally wouldn't be too bothered with the -8. Beautiful as it may be, it's just not popular in real life.

 

Alex

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I think only the popular ones,

 

747-400 and the -8 (both I believe are coming in freighter as well).

 

I personally wouldn't be too bothered with the -8. Beautiful as it may be, it's just not popular in real life.

 

Alex

 

It's popular enough. Maybe not that wide-spread, as only Lufthansa has them in service right now but Air China and Korean Air are also joining the league in the near future. I do wonder though whether they will model both, the RR and the PW engines or just the more popular ones, which I assume are the PW's. 

Really can't wait to see the first previews of the queen - especially the -400! There's just something iconic, reliable and robust to it. COME ON ROB, STOP TORTURING US!  :P

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I really hope for the BCF. There are so many great cargo companies that fly or have flown them. Second best cargo aircraft to see after the 747 classics, unfortunately they wont come over to Schiphol that often anymore.

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i tend to fly what's out there in real aviation. In three years most of the B744 passengers will be retired and then the B744 freight. The only queen that will be around is the 800 series both passenger and freight models. So i'm looking forward on how the 800 series will come out on this version 2.

 

Here is PMDG B748 Ver1 on Air China...

 

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Kin M.

(Klax)

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While it is true that about 95% of all air travel is in twins, in my mind there will always be only one Queen of the Skies. She is beautiful like a work of art: Graceful yet powerfull and large yet sleek.  I read a good biography of Juan Trippe that had a nice bit of the Queen's history; for example, Juan wanted a double decker (a la A380) but Boeing was having fits with trying to figure out the best way to do it when they came up with an idea for a wide body, which was truely revolutionary at the time. The width they settled on, 20 ft., is because that is how wide the Pan Am conference room was where they made the presentation to Juan. They had two large mock-up models back in Renton for Pan Am to view and that sold them. The only caveat was Juan wanted the staircase to be spiral, and after much inhouse argument they gave the customer what he wanted. The engines are a story unto themselves. What great history!

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It's popular enough. Maybe not that wide-spread, as only Lufthansa has them in service right now but Air China and Korean Air are also joining the league in the near future. I do wonder though whether they will model both, the RR and the PW engines or just the more popular ones, which I assume are the PW's. 

Really can't wait to see the first previews of the queen - especially the -400! There's just something iconic, reliable and robust to it. COME ON ROB, STOP TORTURING US!  :P

 

Isn't it the GE's that are most popular?

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It's popular enough. Maybe not that wide-spread, as only Lufthansa has them in service right now but Air China and Korean Air are also joining the league in the near future. I do wonder though whether they will model both, the RR and the PW engines or just the more popular ones, which I assume are the PW's. 

 

 

 


Isn't it the GE's that are most popular?

 

I know that, for the -8s the GE is the only one available.

For the rest, though, I can't really pin it down.  I'd argue that the GEs are most popular, but I have no firm numbers to support that.  Rollers aren't even offered on the ER models, so there's an immediate stat hit to them.  PWs are used by some pretty big operators, though (UAL I know for sure).  I'd say it's a pretty close race.


 

 


The only queen that will be around is the 800 series both passenger and freight models. So i'm looking forward on how the 800 series will come out on this version 2.

 

8 series.  No zeroes.

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We will all probably faint when we see the first 747v2.0 previews. I know I will probably scream like a little girl. 

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aceridgey, on 21 Oct 2014 - 11:47 AM, said:

Isn't it the GE's that are most popular?
 
I know that, for the -8s the GE is the only one available.
For the rest, though, I can't really pin it down.  I'd argue that the GEs are most popular, but I have no firm numbers to support that.  Rollers aren't even offered on the ER models, so there's an immediate stat hit to them.  PWs are used by some pretty big operators, though (UAL I know for sure).  I'd say it's a pretty close race.

 

Absolutley about the GE's on the -8.. To be fair though, the PW's on the UAL's are the only ones I can think of, on the top of my head.. The RR are obviously on all of British Airways (one of, if not, the largest operators of the type) and Qantas etc.

 

I would probably say GE's but I am waiting for this weeks news! Exciting times :)

 

Alex

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This weeks news. PMDG are holding development of all aircraft, whilst they concentrate on their first release for goat simulator, codenamed "PMDG BillyX"

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Absolutley about the GE's on the -8.. To be fair though, the PW's on the UAL's are the only ones I can think of, on the top of my head..

DL's birds have the PW engines as well, but of course there aren't that many in their fleet now.

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i tend to fly what's out there in real aviation. In three years most of the B744 passengers will be retired and then the B744 freight. The only queen that will be around is the 800 series both passenger and freight models. So i'm looking forward on how the 800 series will come out on this version 2.

It will be many years before 744 freighters stop flying. A couple of decades possibly. As 747-8 sales have been slow the 744 may well continue to outnumber them for a long time to come.

 

For the PMDG 747v2 product, I'm more interested in the 747-8 version than the 747-400. I know the -400 well, so the -8 offers a chance at something a bit different.

 

Absolutley about the GE's on the -8.. To be fair though, the PW's on the UAL's are the only ones I can think of, on the top of my head.. The RR are obviously on all of British Airways (one of, if not, the largest operators of the type) and Qantas etc.

 

I would probably say GE's but I am waiting for this weeks news! Exciting times :)

 

Alex

A lot of operators chose PW4000 engines. Apart from UAL they included Singapore, Korean, Air Canada, MAS, Air India, Air China, China Airlines and El Al. So I suspect the honours are fairly evenly split between GE and PW.

 

RR orders were fewer and included BA, Qantas, Cathay Pacific, ANZ and Cargolux.

 

GE engines seem to be preferred by the big cargo operators (apart from Cargolux) but fleets can get mixed when they obtain aircraft second hand.

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Yeah, no matter what, i'm excited about the B744 Ver 2 and the 8. Imagine the VC quality of the B777 on it........

 

 

 

Kin M.

(Klax)

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Still no specific answer.... 

 

So I'll ask the specific question... (and hope if they want to 'sneak peek' the answer)

 

Will the 747-400M be modelled? (Side cargo door)

 

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Will the 747-400M be modelled?

 

My bet would be no, but I could be wrong. Despite having 61 built, it seems like it would be a little too obscure to have wide appeal (and therefore sales).

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Looking purely at the external model it's just a 747-400BCF (747-400 converted to cargo) with the windows 'unplugged' and no nose door, which are emerging more and more with cargo airlines, so 60+ and increasing.

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Looking purely at the external model it's just a 747-400BCF (747-400 converted to cargo) with the windows 'unplugged' and no nose door, which are emerging more and more with cargo airlines, so 60+ and increasing.

There's not a single BCF with a nose door, and it might visually look like a BCF with "unplugged" windows, but it's not. PMDG won't do a visual model only. My bet is they wont do it. I would love it though.

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Looking forward on the new B748F.

There Version 1 modeling is not looking bad..........

 

 

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Kin M.

(Klax)

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PMDG won't do a visual model only.

The 747-8X released in January 2010 is an exterior model only. So PMDG has done it in the past. Will they do it now?

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Will they do it now?

No they won't. They've pretty much confirmed that they stepped away from that kind of stuff a while ago. (that's also the reason why the turboprop Dash 8 is on hold.)

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No they won't. They've pretty much confirmed that they stepped away from that kind of stuff a while ago. (that's also the reason why the turboprop Dash 8 is on hold.)

 

Really. How are those two issues related, if not by the intention to focus available manhours on core products, i.e. fully featured airliners? To cease production of exterior model expansions is one thing but how does this play into the decision to put the Dash on ice, as this would have been a different product altogether? I thought this was a result of shifting development schedules due to the service pack taking a lot more time than anticipated.

 

The 747-8 seems almost like a given addition later on, in the same manner the -300ER was released after the -200LR. From a laymans perspective it looks like the project would have a similar scope and would profit from technologies created for the 777 product line.

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Really. How are those two issues related?

It's a stretch, but they are. PMDG don't do "Light" products anymore, unless specifically intended.

The Dash 8 wasn't put on hold because the development timeline shifted. It was put on hold because the plane was more complex than they originally intended. The intention was to make a Light product out of it, but RSR has said that it wouldn't have been an adequate simulation of the plane. So either it would've been a half-baked add-on, or it would be something that could be picked up at some time. Hence the comparison, though not on a one-to-one basis, with the external models. PMDG has grown quite a bit since the release of the 747-400X, and not only in size.

 

Source: Aerosoft's Conference in Munich. You can watch the videos online.

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