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We've (mostly) all been there.  You purchase new hardware.   Your add-ons get away from you.  You make a bad tweak and hork up the entire system.  Time for an FSX rebuild!  As much as we've been told by folks like Froogle, and others, we are as bad at documenting our tweaks as developers are at commenting their code.  Selfishly, I am posting this topic in hopes to take a stab at creating a tweak guide, that is based on trial and error, documented, and includes a checklist. (All aviators, real life or virtual love checklists).

 

I offer up my rig as the guineapig.  I'm looking for experienced tweakers, and tweak authors who are willing to work on the tweak guide to end all tweak guides.  In my case, the system is dedicated to FSX and VRC, and that's it.  Also, the goal is that this guide allows for optimization without processor overclocking, or hardware mods. (Proper cooling, installation, and power are all assumed to be required)

 

If you are interested, experienced, and know what you are doing, please respond to the thread, and I'll add you to the list of folks who want to be a part of this project.  Again, I am looking for those who have successful experience, and are willing to work on this project long term, not those looking for instant gratification.  If there's one thing I've learned, it is that instant gratification is unrealistic for FSX users.

 

Thanks,

Brad

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No need to go through all the hassle of creating a tweak guide when this has already been done before. Or in other words, no need to reinvent the wheel.

 

Avsim has its own tweak guide that is compiled from best practices gathered from multiple sources over the years.

 

Seconds, Word Not Allowed has a tweak guide that you can find by googling Word Not Allowed FSX.

 

Lastly, in my opinion if you want the most comprehensive tweak guide that exists and also covers getting Windows setup properly for FSX, try NickN's "Bible" setup guide that can be found over at simforums dot com. It's a VERY long read and guide but imho the best one out there as I tried the other two that I listed but they didn't go to the depths that Nicks did and didn't yield the same results for me.

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Brad, 

 

Why would/do you want to recreate the wheel there are a lot of configuration guides already?  Nick Needham (Nick N) has one of the best that he's updated over the years.

 

 

Edit: Jim beat me to it!

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There's tons of threads on this forum alone if you do a Google search that are "trial and error tweak guides"

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The responses thus far are illustrating the issue that I am facing.  For example, I've completed Nick's guide, and my sim is still acting very strange.  I've tried the long list of tweak guides that have been listed above, or parts of each.

 

My goal: take the best from what is out there, formulate it into a wiki like format, and provide a checklist that one could use to document which tweaks were done, and what the changes were that were made to various config files and settings.

 

And before someone offers a LMGTFY, I've done that... My hope is to provide results and screenshots for each tweak.  Further, I'd love to have what I'm going to call "Optional" sub tweak lists.  This would include the tweak guide for FSUIPC, PMDG, ORBX, ASN, etc...  Perhaps even references to YouTube videos that show what others have done in that regard.

 

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Magic is unreliable and hope is not a valid method. You're wasting your time. This subject has been beaten to death. +1 on the advice above.

 

Doug

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Its part of the hobby. With my new hardware I gained some fps, but got the OOM's. It must be fun.

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I just reinstalled every thing from scratch about 6 weeks , took near on 5 days to reinstall it all, make sure you defrag that hdd is my advice after you put it all back on. 

 

On another note I recently split up with an ex girlfriend three weeks ago Saturday, to make sure I got out of the house and didnt  get myself down,  I made a rule of no flight simmming or ps3 until I got a "date" took me 2 1/2 weeks and got a date from a girl I met speed dating last week and im going on Friday night for a drink with her. (i would of rather of been flying the new 319 than talking rubbish to 17 new girls every 3 mins) 

 

I now cant wait to fly that 319 on saturday afternoon... just shows what a bit of perseverance gets you. 

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I should have known better than to try to rally folks on a message board.  There are many ways to skin the FSX tuning cat, and my hope was to build a tool to feed all of these various techniques into a single starting point.

 

Instead, I get a number of anit-social LMGTFY, it's impossible, or nice try responses.

 

If anyone is interested in providing meaningful assistance, guidance, or productive thought, let me know.  Replying, just to get your name on a thread is not helping.  Offering a list of sources that have worked for you to be complied into a list, is helpful.  Offering to help take screen shots is helpful.  Offering to proofread is helpful.

 

Best,

Brad


Toot...

 

Funny!  Sometimes we need that little mental trick to get us out of a pattern and get something done.

 

One caveat, if someone is using SSD's (Like I do), then you wouldn't want to defrag.  But, there are SSD conditioning and configuration tools that are worthy of running through, though I haven't used ons.  If asked to produce it, could you list every single tweak, change, and mod you performed over 5 days to get it done?  I'd love to see the tool I have in mind turn into that mechanism that is used to do just that!

 

Best,

Brad

I just reinstalled every thing from scratch about 6 weeks , took near on 5 days to reinstall it all, make sure you defrag that hdd is my advice after you put it all back on. 

 

On another note I recently split up with an ex girlfriend three weeks ago Saturday, to make sure I got out of the house and didnt  get myself down,  I made a rule of no flight simmming or ps3 until I got a "date" took me 2 1/2 weeks and got a date from a girl I met speed dating last week and im going on Friday night for a drink with her. (i would of rather of been flying the new 319 than talking rubbish to 17 new girls every 3 mins) 

 

I now cant wait to fly that 319 on saturday afternoon... just shows what a bit of perseverance gets you. 

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And to think that one place and tool already exists!

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Where?  And before you say this Forum, I should tell you I am not a moron, nor do I like to ask for help without trying things on my own first.  At this point, I've done a rebuild a number of times over the last few years, and this time, I will make it more than just one more lap around the forums.

 

And to think that one place and tool already exists!

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the only tweak i use is the bojote tweak website, DX10 fixer and disablepreload ,  textures at 2048

 

I think what Jim is saying is there is a wealth of information about tweaks on the website.

 

And yes it was tricky but it got me out of the house, although when the 17 girls at speed dating asked me what my hobbies were, I declined to tell them the RNAV onto rwy 27 at KSAN, I just said dogs and power kites

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The problem is Brad, there are no new tweaks or combinations of tweaks that can be guaranteed to work for all setups.

 

All anyone can do is use the Avsim, Word Not Allowed, or NNicN guide and then tune/tweak from there if it's still needed.

 

There are just too many combinations of hardware/driver/OS to say this "new" guide will be guaranteed to make FSX sing for everyone.

 

Even Nicks guide which worked best for me still had me making a few adjustments that weren't in line with his recommendations.

 

While it's valiant that you want to start a new guide, there's just not anything new that can be added that hasn't already been documented in any of the three existing guides. There's no magic tweaks left to be found and each user will still need to experiment a little to see what works best on their setup.

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Jim,

Really what I am hoping to do is create a methodology to bring these sources together (or reference at a minimum).  Think of it as a dynamic method of pulling together what works, and what doesn't work.  Further, a document that one could go back to when the time to rebuild comes, and they need to go back to 0, and track back how they got to the best worst state of FS{#}.

 

For example, if there was a setting that worked well with your hardware config, publish it under the heading of (X+Y hardware) + (Z+A Tweaks) = Result.  With many different X,Y, Z, and A combinations...

 

Part of the issue is that there are so many sources, and methods, it is hard to remember what was used last time.

 

Thanks,

Brad

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Where?

 

The Internet

 

How?

 

Using your favorite search engine.

 

Why?

 

Every computer is different.

Every OS is different.

Every flight sim is different.

Every flight simmer is different.

Every flight sim software combination is different.

Every time something new comes out whether it be hardware or software, this proposed guide would need to be totally revised.

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Jim,

Feedback noted.  No need to continue to rain on my parade.

 

Regards,

Brad

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You're not listening Brad. So I'll say again, it's all been done before. There is nothing new to be gained by starting a new "tweak guide". Always remember, magic is unreliable.

 

Doug

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Guys, give him a break, for goodness sake!

So what if all has been done before. This is a hobby of ours, supposedly & should be fun.

As it has been said, we all have so many different combinations of hardware & software, & we are all looking for the holy grail of simming perfection.

 

If Brad wants to do it, good luck to him, at least it is actively doing something constructive, unlike a lot of those out there that are spending far too much time shooting him down.

Methinks there are far to many oracles out there...

 

Best of luck!

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My fsx got messy but I am waiting still steam version comes out as fs2004 and xpx does just fine. No need to reinvent the wheel with fsx most long terms know how get fsx working the way they want it.

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Brad,

 

If this is what you really want to do then go for it.  I don't think you'll see much return on your investment though other than personal satisfaction.  What your proposing will require ALOT of work just to create (work that we're trying to tell you has already been done) the other aspect which you may or may not have considered is the amount of effort required to maintain a project like this to keep it current? 

 

Good Luck and Best Wishes if you elect to pursue.

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I can understand your frustration and I can see what you're trying to achieve, but even assuming you could get some people to jump aboard and go through the process you'll end up with little more than a tweaking guide for your own hardware.

 

Therein lies the problem:  There are so many different hardware configurations 'out there' that a single tweaking guide guaranteed to solve every problem is simply not possible.  The fact that there are several such guides available now is a testament to that fact.  

 

After months of frustration myself, I gave up on the vicious cycle of tweaking and simply cut back on the autogen, AI aircraft and street traffic.  I'm not saying that's what you should do, but it seems to me that those things have a bigger impact on overall performance than trying to find the one obscure combination of tweaks that may or may not exist for my machine.

 

Why not work it from the other direction?  Share your system specs (if you haven't already) and explain what weird behaviors you're experiencing. Based on what I've seen on this forum, I have no doubt you'll have people willing to help you out.

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I have among my collection, two completely identical computers. Both have FSX+A and P3Dv2.4 installed on them.

 

Both systems require slightly different 'tweaks' to get them as close as possible and still they don't have identical performance.

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