Well... unfortunately for the FS community, the overall winner of this Topic (737 NGX) is not yet available for P3D and will cost probably $100-$200 in 2015.

So much for a bright FS future.

 

A bit of a negative outlook I would say.

 

1) This is the FSX forum, not the P3D forum

2)The title is referring to past releases (of the last 5 years) not future releases

3) There's been nothing stopping simmers from enjoying the NGX within FSX since release, nor anything stopping them from enjoying in the future.  The availability on a certain platform doesn't affect it's status.

/\ /\ /\ ... what he said.  :smile:

Generally, the future's as bright (or gloomy) as we choose to make it.

A bit of a negative outlook I would say.

 

1) This is the FSX forum, not the P3D forum

2)The title is referring to past releases (of the last 5 years) not future releases

3) There's been nothing stopping simmers from enjoying the NGX within FSX since release, nor anything stopping them from enjoying in the future.  The availability on a certain platform doesn't affect it's status.

You're right. I just find it peculiar that arguably the best aircraft in flight simulation will be out of reach for many customers on the only platform that has any sign of a future for this hobby.

I for one won't be spending $150 on an addon aircraft.

 

Nothing stopping simmers from enjoying NGX within FSX? Sure if you don't install more than 5 other addons..you might be fine.

 

Guess I'll add my own favorites before I got fed up with FSX after the 100th BEX, DLL or general crash at final.

 

1) NGX.

2) A2A 377 (love the startup procedure, sounds etc.)

3) RealAir Duke V2

 

 

 

Guess I'll add my own favorites before I got fed up with FSX after the 100th BEX, DLL or general crash at final.

 

I'm truly sorry that you have such difficulties with FSX, and I can understand why you are so eager to find another platform to fly in.  Not everyone's experience mirrors yours though; I can't recall the last time I had FSX crash on me.  Although I rarely fly the NGX (not really my preferred type of flying) I do generally fly complex planes through highly dense and complex scenery, and it's a rare flight that I don't enjoy immensely.

Does mixture work properly in the 182?  That would be a milestone.

Gregg, Are you talking about the new A2A C182, Flitght1 Turbo or Carenado 182Q, CT182T or C182RG?

 

If it is the A2A Skylane, it seems to work properly for me. What specifically are you expecting it to do or not to do? A2A Pilot's Manual recommends the pilot adjust the mixture on the ground prior to takeoff then adjust at needed depending on altitude. Most of the FSX/P3D add ons require a lot more leaning (% wise) than the real world. Many times in some of the Carenado models I can't even see the red knob when I look down at the quadrant.

 

Regards,

 

Ray

 

 

If it is the A2A Skylane, it seems to work properly for me. What specifically are you expecting it to do or not to do? A2A Pilot's Manual recommends the pilot adjust the mixture on the ground prior to takeoff then adjust at needed depending on altitude. Most of the FSX/P3D add ons require a lot more leaning (% wise) than the real world. Many times in some of the Carenado models I can't even see the red knob when I look down at the quadrant.

 

I was referring to the A2A.  I was wondering if you had to lean during the climb in order to maintain power in that aircraft.

Does mixture work properly in the 182? That would be a milestone.

 

It appears to work properly for me.  Specifically, the old FSX issue where fuel flow peaks near the "correct" leaning point allowing you to cheat and use fuel flow to lean isn't there, and leaning doesn't result in such dramatic engine changes.  You can still roughly lean by engine sound (as should be the case), but it's subtle rather than dramatic and accurate leaning will require using the EGT as IRL.  The EGT gauge also features a nice red pointer you can set to peak when you find it, and allows you to more easily find the lean point relative to peak as recommended in the POH for max power, max endurance or recommended book values.  And, of course, not leaning for ground ops combined with low RPMs can result in plug fouling which will definitely show up during the mag checks at run-up.

 

Scott

hello

 

In my opinion damage modelisation is essential. I don't like when you make mistakes and there are not any consequences. 

 

1) A2A B377: incredible aircraft. Every system is simulated. There are so many things to monitor and adjust  that you are 100% busy during flights. Fantastic learning tool.

 

2) DC3 C : If you don't fly by the book, there is a price to pay..but if you follow the emergency check list, you will survive. VC is outdated though

 

3) Da 20 Katana: great aircraft. A bit slow to my liking but very realistic. System damage  and maintenance hangar. A forerunner of A2A aircraft.

It is of course normal to have to lean the mixture in a non-TC aircraft, as altitude increases, but I assume Gregg was talking about FSX's inherent 'exaggeration' of this.   Like having to set your mixture control to only about 45% at 6,000 feet!   

As the other guys have said, yes it seems completely functional and as expected in the A2A C182.  (I believe it is in the Cherokee too, and not sure about their C172).

 

 

It is of course normal to have to lean the mixture in a non-TC aircraft, as altitude increases, but I assume Gregg was talking about FSX's inherent 'exaggeration' of this. Like having to set your mixture control to only about 45% at 6,000 feet!

As the other guys have said, yes it seems completely functional and as expected in the A2A C182. (I believe it is in the Cherokee too, and not sure about their C172).

 

My lack of knowledge on mixture rules extends only to what I have for guidelines for flying specific aircraft.  For example, the Malibu Mirage (which, I believe is standard with turbochargers), you're not supposed to lean until you level-off at cruise but the sim version needs continual leaning during the climb. 

I would like to officially change my vote for "Best Aircraft Addon in the last 5 years" to the; 

 

A2A Cherokee".

 

Don't just say it, but also do it in your first post!

 

I think the Cherokee, even when it's not my favorite plane, is the best plane ever developed for FSX.

The developers just simply got it right in every area: lights, graphics, sound (just listen to the engines at 1600rpm, pure music!), flight model, manual(not to be underestimated), accusim, support/updates, etc.

 

 

Don't just say it, but also do it in your first post!

Can't edit old posts! 

 

 

you're not supposed to lean until you level-off at cruise but the sim version needs continual leaning during the climb.

 

Yep.. RealAir has said that the FSX mixture thing is all messed up, and well.. we all know that by now... I've played with it with some of my mods, and it would take more work to fix that then to make the intended mod! I do what RealAir suggest... Auto mixture. I don't like it, but I can lose one RW function. In RW, it's a bit of a pain too, and there is a constant debate about the proper way to do it, when to do it, and so on. That's why I like t-props the most.. no mixing of anything except the drinks in those birds!

 

To be clear on Damage and ware/tear.  Agree with ttocs and others.. I fly the Malibu by the numbers (well all really, and the exception of automix)... but there have been days when I've pegged it to save time.. LOL. Having it able to turn on or off (damage/maint) would be the key.. and it should be based on RW, and not blow up every couple days because you started it up wrong. The F1 king air has a couple options, and I think it has made me a more aware sim pilot. Not using the int sep on the ground has a penalty.  As a result, I don't disregard that anymore!

 

 

To be clear on Damage and ware/tear. Agree with ttocs and others.. I fly the Malibu by the numbers (well all really, and the exception of automix)... but there have been days when I've pegged it to save time.. LOL. Having it able to turn on or off (damage/maint) would be the key.. and it should be based on RW, and not blow up every couple days because you started it up wrong. The F1 king air has a couple options, and I think it has made me a more aware sim pilot. Not using the int sep on the ground has a penalty. As a result, I don't disregard that anymore!

 

I guess the only solution to the turbocharge mixture problem would be to use some custom code to manipulate the mixture.  So, it'd have to be done by the dev.

 

You're right...the realism for wear and tear is a breath of fresh air.

 

 

I do what RealAir suggest... Auto mixture. I don't like it, but I can lose one RW function.

Me too, I have auto-mixture set on permanently, apart from when flying a complex engine simulation that addresses mixture and that requests the user to turn automixture off...  (eg. A2A, Digital Aviation Katana 4X, etc).

 

Having automixture on, just means that FSX does the 'exaggerated leaning' in the background for you, without you having to move the mixture control to such exaggerated;y lean settings.   You can then simulate realistic mixture control by just moving the mixture lever yourself in the sim (which clearly has no effect, but all things considered, the illusion is preserved better than having to lean to 45% at 6,000 feet.