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On New Computer: Install FSX:SE or FSX:Boxed?

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I am building a new high end computer primarily for Flight Simulator.  Initially, I prefer to install just one version.  So the sixty-four-thousand dollar question is: does it make more sense to buy and install FSX:SE or reinstall by FS:Boxed version that is on my current computer?  I am assuming that ASN will successfully get converted over, as this is a must have for me.

 

If this is of any help, I primarily fly GA and have most of the normal FSX add-ons including lots of Orbx stuff.

 

Any thoughts are welcomed. 

 

Thanks, PDX.

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My boxed version is still alive. Was actually a new in box, that I've had for a couple of years. Have now bought quite a bit of Orbx scenery to go with it. Computer is new, too, with a Geforce 980.  Bought SE when it was on sale (five bucks), just like I bought FSX Gold on sale for 9.99.  I'm in no hurry to install SE, because the Gold version is running fast and smooth. Far from dead...

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If you wish to fly Multiplayer using "Direct Connect" to a MP Server, FSX is the only option.

FSX-SE does not allow Direct Connect to an IP.

 

Pity, as that makes it worthless for my needs!

 

  Paul

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SE if you care about performance.  Also, there is a large multiplayer community via Steam.

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WhY do you say SE?

 

Good question, now the banter begins again.

 

SE is alive and being updated, boxed version has been dead for years.

 

 

Oh, oh! Here we go again! someone start the popcorn, they're showing another drama.

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I've just uninstalled FSX:SE and have installed box edition again. I was getting a lot of 'terrain.dll' and 'R6025' crashes. I've read somewhere that Dovetail is working on a fix, but until that gets released it's just to unstable for me.

I've just finished installing last night, so I haven't had time for a test flight yet. So wether I'll be getting better or worse perfomance I can't say just yet. But I don't expect it to be any different.

 

I will however most likely install FSX:SE edition again when the patch gets released. It was by far the easiest installation of FSX I have ever done :-)

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SE 

 

3 reasons

 

Pete Dowson says so

 

JV says so

 

PMDG says so " FSX:SE compatibility (which is honestly what most of you here should probably be using rather than P3D)"

 

And most importantly mr VAS says so  :lol:

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I would suggest installing SE and giving it a thorough test (ie long flights) in its vanilla state. Any issues with terrain.dll freezes will probably show up at this stage.

 

If all goes well start instaling the addons in stages.

If problems arise, uninstall it, revert to the boxed version and wait for the updates/fixes (as I am doing).

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Don't forget Robert Young also says so.  That guy makes some awesome addons!  As far as the R6025 crashes with the faulting module as terrain.dll I encountered that once when flying in a freeware addon scenery, so I got rid of it and went back to that area and did not receive a crash, so just for your benefit, some addon scenerys don't play well with SE, but so far all of my payware sceneries work well, it's some of the older freeware sceneries that have caused issues for me.

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Don't forget Robert Young also says so.  That guy makes some awesome addons!  As far as the R6025 crashes with the faulting module as terrain.dll I encountered that once when flying in a freeware addon scenery, so I got rid of it and went back to that area and did not receive a crash, so just for your benefit, some addon scenerys don't play well with SE, but so far all of my payware sceneries work well, it's some of the older freeware sceneries that have caused issues for me.

 

I said no such thing! I do not have enough experience to say either way, so I'm not offering an opinion. Some say it works better, others say it provokes more crashes. I'm neutral on the sim itself (I have commented on DLC which is a different subject) until I've seen it run for a while longer and then see if the apparent positives outweigh the reported negatives. There's plenty of time. No need to rush.

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My apologies Rob, I thought you offered up an opinion somewhere in another thread.

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As far as the R6025 crashes with the faulting module as terrain.dll I encountered that once when flying in a freeware addon scenery, so I got rid of it and went back to that area and did not receive a crash

 

The only scenery addon I had installed was FS Global 2010, FTX Global, FTX Vector and FTX LC. So the problem may very well lie in one of the above mentioned, but it's just difficult to do with out any of them :-)

 

I do hope it gets sorted out though. I love the idea of FSX through steam with it's hassle free installation. 

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I would love to see a triple-header comparison between the 2x FSX's & P3D.

As it is written above, there are 2x recommendations by vested interest vendors for FSX:SE.

 

My thoughts still are, & I have said elseware:

FSX: Still the classic, but discontinued yonks ago, no support apart from freeware & payware vendors.

FSX:SE I have a feeling that Dovetail released this as a DLC supported plug 'n Play sim, geared to their target newbie market. For the rest of us, a bonus is most addons work.

P3D must be put into the mix as an alternative choice (on V2.4 now, 10 upgrades/updates since released)

 

Which is better? The one that works best on our hardware, (yes, each & everyone of us will have different performance results, based on hardware & add-ons), & the one that switches on our imagination & passion the most.

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The idea that just because FSX-MS does not now have any official support, that means there is "no support", is a myth. There is nearly a decade's worth of high quality support from a huge variety of volunteer sources, not least right here on Avsim, which far surpasses that which MS ever offered. Maybe you are mixing up support with development?

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In reality FSX is still being developed, albeit by proxy through companies such as Lockheed Martin and Dovetail Games. Which is why I can model in 3ds Max 2012 64 bit and export to FSX, all thanks to the freely available Prepar3d SDK.

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Thanks for all of the replys!

 

When reading some of the other threads regarding comparisons between the two, it sort of leaves my head spinning.

 

I am leaning to install FSX:SE and see how it behaves on my computer. 

 

My question now is: if I don't like it and want to uninstall it, how easy is this really done?  I have read comments in the past that it is not as simple as doing a program uninstall, but you have to look multiple places and delete additional files.  Also, does a uninstall really fix the registry correctly?

 

Thanks, PDX

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Sorry, I meant support from their distributors,as in FSX, as far as I know, has not had any support from Microsoft, no further updates or anything else for the last 7-8 years. FSX:Steam, updates & a forum on Steam, & obviously P3D,with its 10th upgrade/update from LM . Yup, Lockheed Martin has the license for ESP.

By support, yes, only Dovetail & LM are actively supporting & developing. We know that Dovetails development is limited by their licence agreement,so,no, confused?,, not really.

I take my hat off to all those developers, freeware & payware that make our hobby so interesting.

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Go SE, 

 

per-SE, the only way to Go!

 

Now, being serious, all I can say is that I am above all enjoying the stability and smoothness of SE. I do not plan to install Golden again, and I would have to do it through GFWL ( which I don't really know if it's still available ? ), but since every add-on I had for FSX ( just waiting the PMDG NGX right now ) work beautifully, including ASN, in beta but working great!, there really is no good reason for me to install a version of FSX compiled in 2006 .... as opposed to something assembled with modern platforms....

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My only question for the OP would be:

 

Did you have problems with FSX before the new computer build? If not, then I see no reason why you need to fork out the extra money for the Steam Edition.

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My only question for the OP would be:

 

Did you have problems with FSX before the new computer build? If not, then I see no reason why you need to fork out the extra money for the Steam Edition.

 

Exactly.

 

SE doesn't provide any benefit at the moment if are problem-free. If you are having VAS troubles, SE is the way to go. Be warned: There is a nasty CTD that hits me when I fly beyond the 4 1/2 hour mark in SE.

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There is a nasty CTD that hits me when I fly beyond the 4 1/2 hour mark in SE.

 

I've recently just installed SE myself because I was having VAS troubles. I have not had a chance to properly test it out yet on a long flight so I have not encountered this yet. Is this the 'terrain.dll' crash?

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