well to be honest, I also had it, being a cashcow,

 

That is exactly where I am at the moment, only new products from now on for my P3D.

I bought the P3D NGX but that's it for now.

And I will also not pay more for a P3D academic version than I can buy it for FSX.

Show me P3D specific features and I might just spring for it, but if it is a straight port then forget it enough is enough.

I would have thought they could market their product for the Academic and Professional versions, and save the commercial version for the Professional Plus crowd who may want something in addition to what Lockheed is providing. Maybe VRS has something to do with the Professional Plus version already?

 

 

It's possible, but the guys from VRS have posted before that they have looked over the P3d Pro Plus version and even though it shares some features in common with TacPack, other parts of it are coded differently. They made it sound like they were on the outside looking in and they certainly could have figured that out by buying a 1 month subscription to the P3d Pro Plus version just to see how it worked. I think that it's more likely that LM took the concepts embedded in TacPack and made something similar for their Pro Plus version.

 

You could be right though. It's not like LM isn't using the non-TacPack version of Dino C.'s F-35A as a default aircraft, so nothing would surprise me.

So my question is,  will the VRS+TacPac install into the Pro version or only into the academic version of P3D2? Am a P3D2 Pro user but using it in a non commercial way.

 

Hard times these days concerning EULA things  :unsure:  :blink:

So my question is,  will the VRS+TacPac install into the Pro version or only into the academic version of P3D2? Am a P3D2 Pro user but using it in a non commercial way.

 

 

 

I'm wondering this also. Their website explicitly states that it will only work with the academic, but I don't know if I should take this as "you're not allowed to install it in pro" or if the installer just won't let you install it in the pro version. Aren't the versions identical anyways? How can the installer tell which version you are using if the files are 100% the same?

I have the FSX version of the F18, and I would have bought this straight away (nice that VRS did the decent thing and offered a discount to existing owners)...

 

... if it wasn't for the fact that it requires the TacPack, which I don't want.  Very frustrating.  I don't understand why they didn't release a version that doesn't require the TacPack, that just gives you what the FSX one does.

 

Oh well.

I have the FSX version of the F18, and I would have bought this straight away (nice that VRS did the decent thing and offered a discount to existing owners)...

 

... if it wasn't for the fact that it requires the TacPack, which I don't want.  Very frustrating.  I don't understand why they didn't release a version that doesn't require the TacPack, that just gives you what the FSX one does.

 

Oh well.

 

The discounted price of approx $80 now (down from full price $110) was the full price for the FSX product (Bug +T Pack).

 

So actually paying full price for the same product again to get it into P3D ....and a premium price 30 days from now ($110 I think it is).

 

I do not like the forced purchase of T-Pack ... the products are sold separately but we have to purchase both?

 

I may have to give this one a pass.

 

Edit:

Last year I also had to pay for a VRS TacPack FSX 1year download extension ($5.95 + $5.95 = $11.90).

 

At the time of original purchase (for FSX product) I cannot recall seeing the ... annual product download fee .. or what ever it is.

 

So, there could be extended costs later for the P3D product also ...??

Performance???

Hello,I had the FS9 and FSX versions of The VRS SuperHornet and loved them,I had FSX TacPac pre-ordered a few yrs ago but never installed because my FSX died while waiting for release.

 

Can anyone who has The VRS Bug + TacPac comment on Performance?

Thank You.

... if it wasn't for the fact that it requires the TacPack, which I don't want.  Very frustrating.  I don't understand why they didn't release a version that doesn't require the TacPack, that just gives you what the FSX one does.

 

These are my thoughts exactly. I'd willingly pay to upgrade the aircraft, but don't want the tacpack so i won't be purchasing this. I'm sure they have their reasons, but they've lost my sale as a result.

Performance???

Hello,I had the FS9 and FSX versions of The VRS SuperHornet and loved them,I had FSX TacPac pre-ordered a few yrs ago but never installed because my FSX died while waiting for release.

 

Can anyone who has The VRS Bug + TacPac comment on Performance?

Thank

 

Performance is superb ! On my 4K display i get >50fps with the default P3D settings (apart from fps unlimited). Hard to exactly compare but I think its better than on my FSX.

Great!!! Thank You fulcrum.

I'm wondering this also. Their website explicitly states that it will only work with the academic, but I don't know if I should take this as "you're not allowed to install it in pro" or if the installer just won't let you install it in the pro version. Aren't the versions identical anyways? How can the installer tell which version you are using if the files are 100% the same?

 It's easy as pie to tell which program is running. All the VRS has to do is check that and abort load. This is assuming that it would even INTALL in the other version. I'm betting it won't install much less run.

 

Vic

Also will not purchase if the TacPack is mandatory.

The price is one problem, but not the most important for me  !

For those wich have p3d pro, and can use the f22 raptor of isis, I don't understand why we cannot use Superbug for less of 100 $ !

I've asked in VRS 's forum...

Performance for me is a little better than with the FSX-SE version, but my IQ settings in P3d are much higher than can be achieved in FSX-SE DX9. Keep in mind that I have never run the Bug in DX10 with FSX since the FLIR didn't work.

So my question is,  will the VRS+TacPac install into the Pro version or only into the academic version of P3D2? Am a P3D2 Pro user but using it in a non commercial way.

 

Hard times these days concerning EULA things  :unsure:  :blink:

It's not a EULA thing. It's like I said in a previous post that I made in this thread. VRS has a commercial version that runs with P3d Pro and costs thousands of dollars. It is essentially an equivalent app to LM's P3d Pro Plus. That's the business model that VRS chose for its product.

I don't understand why we cannot use Superbug for less of 100 $ !

 

 

You do realize that you can just purchase the TacPack for $50 US and then download some terrific TacPack-enabled aircraft by Dino Cattaneo for free, right?

 

http://indiafoxtecho.blogspot.com/

 

Dino is the author of the non-TacPack F-35 that is one of the default aircraft in P3d 2.5

VRS cannot tell if the end user is using P3D Pro for commercial purposes. You cant exactly expect them to take your word for it. So if you want to run on Pro you have to pay a Pro price. If you want to run on academic you will get the academic price. No commercial user would want the watermark.