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I have come to P3D directly from FS2004, so Radar Contact had been my primary ATC software for more than 10 years. Just curious if things changed for P3D and VOX ATC or PRO ATC are more superior than RC4. Your recommendations would be much appreciated.

 

Thanks

 

Dmitriy

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Here comes to the flurry of opinions to help confuse you on what's 'The Best'.  :)   Let me start with my 5 cents worth.

 

VatSIM - Best experience if you can find a controller that knows what he/she's doing

VoxATC - Best choice for Voice Activated/Speech Recognized ATC with the ability to follow SIDS/STARS and handle IFR and VFR flights.   Also handles AI ground traffic and taxing.   This choice can be pricey if you want good voices to talk to you as it uses TTS voices and each voice runs about $45 USD but the pay off is smooth fluid realistic speech that sounds less like a robot.

Pro ATC - This seems to be a favorite among those who prefer button pushing ATC.  It's powerful but I personally can't handle it OR Radar Contact because of the way it does speech.  It sounds like a broken robot who can't decide what pitch or tone to use.   It sounds too 'Automated' sounding, like every controller is an ATIS station.

 

I stand behind VoxATC personally.  It is powerful, sounds great with the right TTS voices installed and gives me full service from Clearance/Delivery to the arrival gate and it does it very well.   The only bug/glitch in it that is left that drives me crazy is the obsessive handing off to ARTCC stations.    I am pretty sure there are not 10 different controllers I need to talk to in one ARTCC zone.   The author is aware of the problem and is looking for a solution.

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I've got VOX and RC4.  They both have their pluses and minuses.  Live controlling is, by far, superior.  PilotEdge is the best (if you can handle only flying in the bottom left of the US). 

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Robot speech isn't that problematic for me. I'm interested in low-resource usage (such as RC4) and realistic ATC handling

 

PS. Guess that RC4 does not work for P3D, doesn't it?

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Rc4 works fine in pr3d I also use pro atc.

 

Regards TED Kiser

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Thanks folks,

 

Is PRO-ATC stand-alone module such as RC or it's embedded into P3D?

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PRO ATC is a stand alone program.

I would suggest getting Rc4 working then

Explore the other options.

 

Regards TED Kiser

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vox atc is the best for me ;) I fly VFR +++

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If you can afford it, pilotedge.net, period!!!!

+1 ... but if you can't afford it and still want human ATC (FREE !) >>> VATSIM

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If you can afford it, pilotedge.net, period!!!!

 

When they branch out beyond their tiny world of NorCal/SoCal I would be all in.   I think they are missing a gold mine by not offering a full VatSIM like environment with professional controllers covering all of the US and Europe.  I would pay a fair monthly fee for the full experience from gate to gate in the US.

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When they branch out beyond their tiny world of NorCal/SoCal I would be all in. I think they are missing a gold mine by not offering a full VatSIM like environment with professional controllers covering all of the US and Europe. I would pay a fair monthly fee for the full experience from gate to gate in the US.

Huge reason is that they want the virtual training "sky" to be appropriately densely packed with flying users at most times to better simulate real world atc.

 

Next step is probably rolling in Seattle/Vancouver type area and connecting for "down the coast" flights or something

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PFE does work with P3D and the voices are both non robotic and regional. PRO ATC is non compliant with ICAO so unrealistic to say the least.

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Live ATC is really hard to beat. Personally as a licensed pilot, I really appreciate the advantages of Pilot Edge. The benefit really of PE is guaranteed coverage and highly realistic ATC procedures. I'd like to see Pilot Edge expand coverage too. But seeing that they have very high quality paid controllers, I understand why it is not feasible to do so without careful planning and due diligence on their part. If you have to pick a limited area to cover, though, the ZLA area offers a HUGE variety of airspace and terrain. If your thing is multi-hour long haul airline stuff, it is not going to scratch that itch, I suppose.

 

I've heard some really great controllers on Vatsim too, but the lack of consistency and schedule is... well, the "price" of a free service. That said, for most simmers, Vatsim is a great option.

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+1 ... but if you can't afford it and still want human ATC (FREE !) >>> VATSIM

 

Spent some time today getting everything together to go on Vatsim. After downloading and hooking everything up, looked online and there were hardly any controllers or flights anywhere on teh East coast including my home, Atlanta, Miami and NYC. Going to use P3D ATC and My Traffic tonight I guess. 

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it's all about timing..... currently the east coast - gulf coast and midwest ATC centers are lit up with controllers online   :smile:

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it's all about timing..... currently the east coast - gulf coast and midwest ATC centers are lit up with controllers online   :smile:

 

I don't know if one controller on the tower and one for departure and one for  arrivals in Atlanta is "lit up", but that is what I am seeing. Once you get away from ATL, not much happening for hundreds of miles. I have never flown in a real life system that was like that.  Much prefer the computerized ATC, even if it isn't perfect, at least it's there. I flew on Vatsim years ago, and it seems it was much more active then than what I am seeing now. 

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Sorry you didn't see what I was seeing on Vatspy at the time of my post (your post is 24 hours after mine).  The  ARTCC center controllers for KZTL / KZDC / KZJX / KZHU / KZMA /KZID were online.

 

It's always been a matter of choice and I respect your choice to stay with computer generated voices for control.  I prefer humans guiding me (even if I have to fly when and where the coverage is "live" )

 

Blue skies and tailwinds...  HAPPY MEMORIAL DAY TO ALL FELLOW AMERICANS !!!    :American Flag:  

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Sorry you didn't see what I was seeing on Vatspy at the time of my post (your post is 24 hours after mine).  The  ARTCC center controllers for KZTL / KZDC / KZJX / KZHU / KZMA /KZID were online.

 

It's always been a matter of choice and I respect your choice to stay with computer generated voices for control.  I prefer humans guiding me (even if I have to fly when and where the coverage is "live" )

 

Blue skies and tailwinds...  HAPPY MEMORIAL DAY TO ALL FELLOW AMERICANS !!!    :American Flag:  

 

Vastspy and the one I use have the same information from the same network.     http://vattastic.com/                        As I stated, I am not impressed with a half dozen controllers in the entire USA,  Flew Vatsim many years ago and it was much busier then. For example, I am getting ready to  fly my Q400 right now.  There are at this moment three controllers in the US, one ground at an arpt ( not the one I am leaving or or flying ro) and two center controllers.  I can't plan my day around Vatsim.  ^_^

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I decided last evening to give Pro ATC a try because so far I was not happy with any of the alternatives. I was hesitant at first because I had read some not so favorable reviews, but hey, I have read  those type reviews about everything I have purchased for the last many years, and so far most of the negative stuff has turned out to be BS. Anyway, I installed it this morning, gave the manual a quick glance, changed a few settings, and was surprised to find a section in the manual devoted to the Majestic 400 which is my favorite plane to fly in P3D. I set up a flight plan from Atlanta to Tampa, and started P3D, programmed the FMC, and contacted ATC . All instructions were excellent, the voices understandable,and having the benefit of the text box helped to eliminate any confusion. From Clearance Delivery to Ground to Tower, everything was as one would expect. The co-pilot handled all the gear and flap settings, frequency changes and even altitude and heading changes for the AP. If you like to do those yourself you can turn those functions off.    It vectored me onto the SID called altitude changes, etc, etc,  Once underway , I got some nice ATC chatter which again sounded realistic, at least what I am used to hearing when I fly real aircraft. At the arrival, it put me on the Star, and then the IlS .  I even tried a missed approach at Tampa, and the copilot got the gear up and hit the go around button for me.  Just perfect, I am really happy with this product. What was a pleasure is when it was vectoring me for the ILS, I wasn't getting those heading changes from 110 to 130 to 110 to 130 like I am used to with FSX and P3D. I also didn't have to go through 18 center controllers in a 13 mile span.. ;)   I would rate Pro ATC 5 stars.   

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I decided last evening to give Pro ATC a try because so far I was not happy with any of the alternatives.   

 

Pro-ATC X is my preferred ATC client :-)

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Because Vatsim allows pilots to just jump in you do find people are quite helpful with mistakes and errors, everyone seams quite friendly. I love it and plan flying on it during events, there are loads around Europe on the weekend and during the week. London is usually controlled most days, along with Germany and Scandinavia got those non-event days. I've had ATC the whole journey lots of times, but you do need to live with the fact that you don't always have it. Events are good at making this very likely. I can't say what it's like in America though, I rarely look over there, but east coast seams to have people online in the evening. Asia often does as well. The think the key, if you want good coverage, is to look for events and fly them.

 

I can't say I used ATC before, built-in or add-on, but love flying wit Vatsim. Can't speak for IVAO as I've never used it. The videos I've seen on Pilot Edge make it look very interesting but I've not tried that, however that is a lot more professional, if you could say that, then Vatsim

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One of the issues with VATSIM is that with the proliferation of FMC equipped aircraft the satisfaction in controlling is considerably reduced unless controlling in a busy environment.

It really is a chicken or the egg sort of thing. Controllers wont come on line unless there are pilots and pilots wont come online unless there are controllers!

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I hear what you're saying, but whenever I open up Vatspy in the evening it's really busy, event with no ATC online. I'm always quite surprised at the number of planes doing long-haul, across Atlantic etc even with very little ATC online! It really amazes me at times

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