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First flight on the newest build of Windows 10...

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I don't know what they've done...but I need new underwear...again...

 

My FPS have jumped by 12. Everyone of my sliders is to the the right (except AI, of course). I'm sitting here at KDCA by TropicalSim in the PMDG -800 of WestJet flair, watching my FPS hanging out with no problem at 36. I was hovering around 20 before I did a clean install of Windows 10 with a clean install of P3D. Everything looks incredibly sharper...I can't explain it...

 

AND I'M ON MY LAPTOP!!!!!!

 

MSi GS70 i7-4710K 2.5 Ghz

16GB Ram

GTX970m with 3GB DDR5

NO OVERCLOCKING/BOOSTING

 

I went back to Windows 8.1 2 weeks ago just to compare...I noticed it was running slower than Windows 10...not like this though guys!

 

Do you guys realize, and I know we all have the "tweak our flightsim until it dies" that after nearly 30 years...we may have it...

 

Go get your pre-release copy NOW!! Totally worth the time to reinstall everything.

 

Mano y Mano...stock up on some hanes and get a pillow for your seat. I needed one...

 

Ill post photos on the SS forum later....but I can tell you they wont do it justice...

 

Back to DCA I go...time to procrastinate my passengers a little more...I've gotta finish my mess...

 

 

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Good stuff Brian. Just a couple more weeks now for RTM ^_^

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That Is still a beta version, right? 

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Have you had any compatibility issues at all? ASN, a2a, f1 gtn, Rex, orbx? You make a very compelling case for not waiting for the rtm, I'm getting very interested with all this win10 dx12 buzz!

 

AND I'M ON MY LAPTOP!!!!!!

 

Have you tried it on your desktop?

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I wonder what could be causing such a large performance gain.

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Brian,

 

Wondering if I can have a bit of fun with this: you're the second coming of 'Sesquashtoo'!

 

Seriously, your enthusiasm is a great thing to see and I'm glad its P3D related. Thanks for posting and I look forward to some screen shots. 

 

cheers,

Greg

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I wonder what could be causing such a large performance gain.

Well, I did install Air Traffic manager and that helped immensely! Especially in NYC. Now the planes at the gate at EWR dont affect me when I'm departing KLGA!

 

 

Have you had any compatibility issues at all? ASN, a2a, f1 gtn, Rex, orbx? You make a very compelling case for not waiting for the rtm, I'm getting very interested with all this win10 dx12 buzz!

 

 

Have you tried it on your desktop?

I actually don't have a desktop. Im a soundguy for artists and a lot of my time is spent on a tour bus/in hotel rooms and I needed a way to keep my chops up...especially because Im picking up my first plane in 3 weeks (!!!!) 1979 Piper Aztec :)

 

I have no idea what could be causing the gains...maybe Microsoft got it it right...or they messed us all in the head with Windows 8 that anything would seem god-like.

 

 

Also, It's as stable as a rock. As I type this in Chrome I am waiting at the gate in DCA (TropicalSim) in a Westjet PMDG 737-700 with ASN, REX Clouds, MyTraffic X, VOX ATC and 3 24" monitors running 26 FPS...on my laptop!!

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Also, It's as stable as a rock. As I type this in Chrome I am waiting at the gate in DCA (TropicalSim) in a Westjet PMDG 737-700 with ASN, REX Clouds, MyTraffic X, VOX ATC and 3 24" monitors running 26 FPS...on my laptop!!

 

Holy crap, this seems too good to be true. I'm thinking I might have to take a leap of faith and do a win10 clean install. Keep us posted!!

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Does your Win 10 version include DX12? Does the driver for your graphics adapter already support it?

 

While Prepar3d does not yet have native DX12 support, I was always asking myself it there could be an advantage alone via driver/adapter DX12 support. Maybe someone of the experts can comment on this.

 

Kind regards, Michael

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I installed Windows10 last week. Absolutely 0 performance jump. About the same performance, perhaps a little worse. I am running the Nvidia Win10 drivers on my SLI Rig. 

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So guys, I just remembered what I tried in my wave of installing everything again....

 

 

I used "Steve's DX10 Scenery Fixer"

 

Im telling you, the results are so stunning...trust me....about to post some screen shots right now....just got to cruise...

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Brian,

 

Wondering if I can have a bit of fun with this: you're the second coming of 'Sesquashtoo'!

 

Seriously, your enthusiasm is a great thing to see and I'm glad its P3D related. Thanks for posting and I look forward to some screen shots. 

 

cheers,

Greg

Greg,

 

I am so pumped right now. I am in awwwww....I know what I'm doing ALL DAY TODAY! Im even gonna make a video and make some music behind it. Gotta love having a studio in my house :)

 

I know people get frustrated....but lets not forget the reason we are all here anyways. I've been using FlightSim since version 4.0 on a mac. I remember getting giddy when 5.1 came out with actual clouds!!! Damn that was long ago...I'm 32 so I've been doing this...forever...

 

Oh yeah, screens are going up RIGHT NOW....

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Well, I did install Air Traffic manager and that helped immensely!

 

So this tells me it may not be entirely Windows 10 related.

 

When making performance improvement claims, the situation needs to be an apples to apples comparison.  Same scenery, same add-ons, same planes, same mods, etc.

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How could DX10 fixer work in P3D? Are you talking about FSX?

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Does your Win 10 version include DX12? Does the driver for your graphics adapter already support it?

 

While Prepar3d does not yet have native DX12 support, I was always asking myself it there could be an advantage alone via driver/adapter DX12 support. Maybe someone of the experts can comment on this.

 

Kind regards, Michael

Honestly, I have no idea. 

 

 I burnt myself out on really diving into to driver's etc. early, I still got all the skills to build a comp and tech it to death if I wanted...P3D is spoiling me. All I know is that my Laptop runs 3 monitors at an insanely soild 25-30FPS with high detail. I avoid places like NYC because it will drop down to about 14-15. The laptop only weighs 7 lbs. so I take it with me everywhere...I wish someone made a really really miniature yoke or joystick...which kind of makes me laugh. Good lord we are spoiled aren't we? I remember being stoked with 18FPS on FS98...

 

         "Look at those flaps! They friggin move instead of just going into place!!!! I'm only flying planes with control animation from now on!!"

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Would Windows 10 work with FSX:SE, or is it only optimized for P3D? Kinda wanting to bite the bullet now and get 10!!!

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How could DX10 fixer work in P3D? Are you talking about FSX?

 

You got me man, I had sitting in my massive "library" folder...which is truely massive. I tried it out after my install of the base of it. I can tell you the difference is noticeable, and I don't know which one it was.

 

So this tells me it may not be entirely Windows 10 related.

 

When making performance improvement claims, the situation needs to be an apples to apples comparison.  Same scenery, same add-ons, same planes, same mods, etc.

 

Gregg, I don't know what it was. I didn't say for a fact it was this or that, I was geniunely excited and Windows 10 was one of the recent changes, cool?

 

I've done about 4 full re-installs in the past week trying to find the best performance. Old habits die hard. I've been Simming for 20 years. I started with FS4.0 when I was 12 years old. I've been messing with this damn thing for 20 years trying to get it smooth and pretty. Every time I reinstalled P3D it was better fresh then after a bunch of this and that and .cfg edits and blah blah blah.

 

To humor the curious, which includes me, here's the process...

 

- Full Format and installation of "Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 10162" (I have a 256 SSD for Windows and P3D only)

- Began the install process which went like this, a circle of mayhem    -     P3D, FSUIPC, load, restart, UTX (NickN's guide on modyfying flattening, width etc. etc. I can offer a link if people dont know of it) GEP3D, REX + SOFT CLOUDS, load, restart, Steve's DX10 Scenery Fix (I'll glady take a picture of my settings if so desired) Modify Prepar3d.cfg (I did every one listed on their website, only thing changed was FFM to 0.21, BufferPools to 100000000, AffinityMask to 84, LOD to 6.5)

 

I then installed all my planes and most scenery and here I am now...it's awesome.

 

But I still want to mess with it, and I will. I'm addicted. I'm going to build a beast of a Hackintosh because I need it in my studio here in Texas. That things gonna make rock-and-roll fly.

 

Happy 4th everyone, I'll be in my cave.

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Oooooooooooooooooo so mayyyybbbeeeee...my old post about the possibilities of DX 12 and P 3-D might have some verisimilitude??

 

Gotta stay on top of this!

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Wondering if I can have a bit of fun with this: you're the second coming of 'Sesquashtoo'!

 

Lol, was thinking the same thing, maybe Sesquashtoo's brother. We can call him Sesquashtoo2.

All I know is that my Laptop runs 3 monitors at an insanely soild 25-30FPS with high detail.

 

The laptop only weighs 7 lbs. so I take it with me everywhere...

3 monitors off a laptop and 25 to 30 FPS? You don't take the 3 monitors everywhere with you as well, do you? How the performance with just the lap top monitor?

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All the benchmarks in the web state that W10 is just like W7/8 in terms of performance so we have 2 scenarios

 

1) you are a Microsoft marketing insider 

 

2) something happened, maybe your old installation was somehow corrupted but for sure W10 is not faster than W7, sometimes it is even slightly slower, after all that's only a free of charge Service Pack

 

Cheers 

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To humor the curious, which includes me, here's the process...



- Full Format and installation of "Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 10162" (I have a 256 SSD for Windows and P3D only)

- load, restart, Steve's DX10 Scenery Fix (I'll glady take a

 

Why on earth would you install the DX10 scenery fix with P3D ? I doubt it can it even work with P3D

 

P3D runs under DX11 not DX10

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No difference in performance at my end either. I have the latest Windows 10 Insider Preview build on a Corsair 240GB SSD and P3D performs nearly identical to Windows 7 Ultimate here (in some instances, it's a little slower to respond than 7). Nothing out of the ordinary, nothing exotic in terms of performance, all exactly the same. In Windows 7, I get 30 fps easily at moderate settings and only two tweaks to the cfg (Affinity Mask and Fiber Time Frame Fraction) - it was exactly the same in Windows 10.

 

System : i7 4790K@4.0ghz, Corsair Force Series 240GB SSD, Asus Strix GTX970 4GB, Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB DDR3 2400Mhz RAM

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Absolutely no difference on my test rig with a fresh install of latest W10 IP and P3Dv2,5 HF4. In fact I think it might even be a little `stickier` with a few more stutters. It's all so `beta` that I resolved to just leave P3D on my main w7 PC until there are real, demonstrable and repeatable benefits from relevant sources confirmed by L-M.

 

Seems obvious that L-M will need time to optimise the sim for the new DX12 environment, GPU drivers need to get out of beta-land and then the two need to be mollycoddled to work together, just as it has had to be with DX11. I've seen no Hotfix from P3D developers so it cannot, by definition be doing anything with DX12 except under retro-compatibility with 11. Any work that is going on is doing so behind the scenes away from our field of view.

 

I think it's probably time to stop smoking that medecine, maaaan.  :Peace:

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