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Possible 787 development? Maybe crowdfund?

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I fly the PMDG aircraft almost exclusively as I love the realism of the avionics and systems. The 737 NGX is my favorite so far, with the 777 and then the 747 close behind. I was wondering the possibility of the PMDG development team looking at creating the 787 series? What do you think about performing a survey to the customer base and see if crowdfunding it would be an option if that would assist with the process? 

 

Also, will there be a large difference between the current 747-400/800 model and the new one coming out?

 

Jon Richardson

Las Vegas, NV

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I don't think it's an issue of cost, but rather the time factor involved, with modeling all of the complex systems. PMDG's DC-6 is still a WIP, and it was announced back in 2012...

 

Alan  :mellow:

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What do you think about performing a survey to the customer base and see if crowdfunding it would be an option if that would assist with the process? 

 

I highly doubt we'd ever crowdfund anything. I wouldn't consider it to be necessary, and taking money prior to releasing something is a highly risky practice. It's more of a development schedule thing. At the moment, we have a number of projects going on, so when we'd be able to get to any new projects beyond our current scope is a discussion for a later time.

 

 

 


Also, will there be a large difference between the current 747-400/800 model and the new one coming out?

 

Tons of differences, though only for the 747-400. Think of it as what the NGX was to the original NG for FS9. We're not making a 747-800.

(Before everyone starts losing their minds, the latter comment is a joke. The 747-800 doesn't exist - it's only the 747-8. This will be a full simulation of the -8, unlike the previous version which was a model only.)

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Someone is already making the 787. 

 

http://qualitywingssim.com/787.html

Are they STILL working on it?  If memory serves, they made their announcement to that aircraft back on 2011-2012.  Their teaser shots are getting a lot of dust on them.

 

There's nothing wrong with other devs creating the same aircraft.  It's called competition, which is something that keeps this community thriving.  Look at how many worked on the A-320 series. :)

 

-Jim

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(...)

 

Also, will there be a large difference between the current 747-400/800 model and the new one coming out?

 

(...)

 

 

The current B744v1 has an alternative 2D cockpit and the Virtual Cockpit can entirely be disabled.   :P

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Are they STILL working on it?  If memory serves, they made their announcement to that aircraft back on 2011-2012.  Their teaser shots are getting a lot of dust on them.

 

Unlike PMDG, qualitywing is a group of people who have full time jobs and only produce their aircraft on a weekend or their free time. Hence its taking a while for them to get it out.

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Their teaser shots are getting a lot of dust on them.

 

Don't know where you did get this information. They are continuously releasing updates on the development progress as well as new teaser shots and videos. Just check their Facebook page.

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Don't know where you did get this information. They are continuously releasing updates on the development progress as well as new teaser shots and videos. Just check their Facebook page.

Well that explains it...I don't use Facebook. :)

 

I spoke figuratively about the screenshots, btw.

 

-Jim

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Unlike PMDG, qualitywing is a group of people who have full time jobs and only produce their aircraft on a weekend or their free time. Hence its taking a while for them to get it out.

 

Hmm...might be best to be mindful of your assumption there. My 0430 wake up call, 2.5 hour daily commute into and out of the city, and day job would beg to differ with it. And my situation is not unique.

 

 

 

Either way, let's avoid comparative comments between us and other devs here, please. That goes for everyone. Each dev has its own unique challenges and group of people producing their work. If you'd like to criticize PMDG, have at it. Anyone else? Take it somewhere else, please. For what it's worth, I thought the "they still haven't released it yet" was pretty benign. I just want to make it clear that I don't want the discussion to continue to develop into criticism of QW.

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I wasn't criticizing PMDG or QW (both companies have brilliant products).

 

Kyle - doesn't PMDG work on there aircraft as full time jobs?

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I wasn't criticizing PMDG or QW (both companies have brilliant products).

 

I know you weren't. I just wanted to be sure people didn't see your interaction with Jim as the beginnings of a PMDG v QW discussion, that's all.

 

 

 


Kyle - doesn't PMDG work on there aircraft as full time jobs?

 

Nope. Most all of the team members I interact with regularly have another job. Heck, as RSR has alluded to a couple times (in posts, but he also made a joke about it in the FlightSimCon 2015 video), even he has another job consulting with the airlines.

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Ok that clears it up... i was under the impression that PMDG work on their maircrtaft full time.

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Are they STILL working on it?  If memory serves, they made their announcement to that aircraft back on 2011-2012.  Their teaser shots are getting a lot of dust on them.

 

There's nothing wrong with other devs creating the same aircraft.  It's called competition, which is something that keeps this community thriving.  Look at how many worked on the A-320 series. :)

 

-Jim

Why is it a surpirse to you or cause of capitals use that they're STILL working on it from 2012? As you can read on this same thread PMDG has been working since then on the DC and it's STILL not ready... Let's not have double standards here, this takes a LOT of work....

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Why is it a surpirse to you or cause of capitals use that they're STILL working on it from 2012? As you can read on this same thread PMDG has been working since then on the DC and it's STILL not ready... Let's not have double standards here, this takes a LOT of work....

 

Guys - I already addressed this. Knock it off.

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QW will release theirs before PMDG could. And there are many models that need the high quality treatment. A 757 and 767! LevelD never followed through with their 757 and the 767 is showing its age, can't even operate the FMC using the virtual cockpit. Great for its day though. So my vote is one of a long list of needed airplanes: 757 or 767, and a 1900C and D, a classic 737, Airbus A350, 778/9, and that would bring us into the next decade! David Lee

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The 737 classic is in development by QW. Also I think I know the answer, but is there any chance of PMDG re-writing the JS41 for P3D.

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The 787 is my next plane that I REALLY want.  I wished PMDG took on the 787, but now we'll have to wait for QW to put it out.  They do give quarterly updates , but I doubt 2015 will see a 787.  I doubt 2016 will see the 787 either. 

 

I still need to find a flight school who will let me use their full motion 787 simulator.   

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The 787 is my next plane that I REALLY want.  I wished PMDG took on the 787, but now we'll have to wait for QW to put it out.  They do give quarterly updates , but I doubt 2015 will see a 787.  I doubt 2016 will see the 787 either. 

 

I still need to find a flight school who will let me use their full motion 787 simulator.   

 

From their quarterly update it sounds like, it will be out next year. 

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I don't own any of QW products, but I do have all of the PMDG acft and CaptSim ones...How do QW compare to PMDG? The thing I like most about the PMDG designs is the avionics and performance realism and functionality...Some devs leave a lot of functions out of their models...How do you think iFly and QW compare with currently available items?

 

Jon R

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I don't own any of QW products, but I do have all of the PMDG acft and CaptSim ones...How do QW compare to PMDG? The thing I like most about the PMDG designs is the avionics and performance realism and functionality...Some devs leave a lot of functions out of their models...How do you think iFly and QW compare with currently available items?

 

Jon R

I flew the BAe Afro RJ models from QW and have to say I was very, very impressed by it.   I haven't flown the 757 of theirs at all.   From what I have read elsewhere the BAe series was quite a step up in the right direction by QW.   I am also very big PMDG fan for all the same reasons you are so systems fidelity very important to me and I liked the RJ's from QW.

 

The 787 is such a new airplane though that I think it will be sometime still before PMDG tackles it given their already PACKED development schedule.   Cannot wait to see what they have in store over the next five or so years!

 

Kind regards

 

Kind regards.

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