This is the main reason why I'm switching back from MTP6 to UT2. In combination with AIController and UT2 I'd rather have aircraft flow along routes instead of a swarm of hectic flies moving along with my plane. At least this is how it looks to me from the cockpit and on different moving maps 

 

Dirk.

As my luck has it, my favorite routes are either flying the 777 over the ocean, or island hopping in the ngx. All the airplanes disappear around me when using UTX. If you fly only over land though, UTX with the AI controller is the best option. As I said before it is too bad really because UTX is a great little program, they just need to fix a few nagging issues. I paid for their last schedule update only to find many plans were missing like all routes into recently changed airport codes such as FAOR.

 

Another little issue is if you go into a menu all the ai traffic gets reset in UTX. Maybe Flight1 will realize they have the best program and lots of new potential buyers with P3D and FSX Steam, or MyTraffic will release nicer repaints, more realistic plans, and a flight plan routing system to one up UTX.

Forgive me for saying this, but.........Flight1 really need to concentrate all of their time and financial resources into developing a P3D version of the Cessna Citation Mustang :wink:

I started with ut2 a couple of years ago and always found the Daedalus paints annoying and with the help of a fellow simmer I was told how to create my ai stuff

It's actually very easy,and once you get the hang of it ,you can create your own plans for pretty much most of the majors in minutes

Pretty much all the models that ut2 use are available on the download section here or at flightsim.com loads of fightplans are available at aig 

the upshot for me is that although I still have UT2 installed most of my paints and timetables are new or last winter schedules.

The way I have my folders setup I have 1 install for both p3d and fsx saving quite a bit of space and no problems trying to get ut2 to work with dual installs

I think that some people are exaggerating the speed at which new schedules and planes can be integrated into UT2. If you want to use new models, then you will have to add them to your Airplanes_AI folder (or your Airplanes folder if you chuck everything together). You will then need to add these new models to the Aircraft.txt file of your updated airline, and modify the flightplans.txt file accordingly. Then you need to add the new airline schedule with PowerPack (and calculating the waypoints for each flightplan of a major airline can take even a powerful PC a reasonable amount of time), and then add the new aircraft and repaints with the UT2 utility itself. This entire process takes considerably longer than just a few minutes.

that's why I use aig plans

they may not contain the waypoints in the flightplans but they bring out most of the majors winter and summer schedules within weeks of them occurring

I have all the models that I'm likely to use and paint schemes are easy to get hold of

so its a matter of using aifp to create the plan with model put them in a folder of your choice,point to them in fsx ,p3d and away you go

The only difference that I can see is that my plans fly more direct rather than using waypoints which for me is a much cheaper option ie free  than getting ut2 updates then spending hours changing Daedalus paints every time you get a new schedule

I must have misunderstood you. I thought that you were using UT2. Sorry about that. I do use lots of AIG flightplans, but I integrate them into UT2. I have tried using them as normal BGL files, but I remember having some serious problems with larger schedules on my PC (AI planes dropping short of runways, or making huge S turns on approach), but this behaviour was almost completely eradicated when I added those same flightplans into UT2.

 

For the record.....I have never used the Daedalus repaints. That's why I realised how empty the airports were when I first installed UT2. However, it's worth pointing out (for any other UT2 users) that those Daedalus repaints can still be seen if you have not properly integrated any new airline repaints. Any repaints that are installed but (for some reason) are not being displayed will be replaced by the Daedalus colour scheme....and that's when this generic scheme is disabled in the UT2 Options menu.

Hi Christopher

I only really use UT2 now for early models or harder to go get models

I cant say I've noticed the problems you have had,but then again I've not really looked so perhaps I do,but for me its all works ok

I just find it so much easier now to do it all myself, and then delete the airline in UT2 to avoid conflicts of 2 different plans for the same airline.

The other thing doing it my way is if an airline has a specialty paint I can add it to a specific route and therefore see it possibly a bit more regularly .but only on that route

If I remember correctly in UT2 you can add the paint but then only specify in percentage terms how likely to see it (although I might be wrong on that)

 

rgds

Yes, I think you are correct regarding that, Pete. I am not bothered which aircraft are used on particular routes, so it doesn't matter to me. I disable the UT2 main database versions of airlines that I have updated, so doubling up isn't a problem. I will have to take a few screenshots of AI planes in action on my PC, and post them here. That also includes military planes, although I use normal BGL files for those.

There's people out there who are doing upto date schedules and uploading them to avsim every week.

 

I for example updated the latest easyJet summer ones yesterday. They import into ut2 in under 30 seconds. I can guarantee you they are more upto date than the mytraffic ones which are about 2 years old

 

Likewise people have updated many others last weej and repainters upload many new paints daily. Again taking no more than 30 seconds to install.

tooting can you provide a link to some of the updates, searched but couldn't find anything

I still don't understand this "import into UT2 in no more than 30 seconds" lark. It takes me a LOT longer than that. Are we talkiing imported schedules using PowerPack here, or an alternative system that only uses the existing UT2 models?? It takes five minutes just to add the new repaints to the UT2 database on my PC..... :huh:

You are correct, if done correctly, each individual schedule takes some time, first using PP and then using UT2.

tooting can you provide a link to some of the updates, searched but couldn't find anything

Go to the avsim library.

Click on show the whole section box

Change to fs2004 ai flightplans

Click go

Change search to display newest downloads first

 

You'll see so many. My new ezy ones are at the top.

I still don't understand this "import into UT2 in no more than 30 seconds" lark. It takes me a LOT longer than that. Are we talkiing imported schedules using PowerPack here, or an alternative system that only uses the existing UT2 models?? It takes five minutes just to add the new repaints to the UT2 database on my PC..... :huh:

Once you downloaded a base model I can update a livery in about 3o secs yes

You are aware that a lot of those UT2 models are actually from MyTraffic ?

 

 Not exactly correct. The shared models are the A380, most of the Russian airliners, ATR's, Beech 1900's, CRJ's, ERJs', 146's etc. All of which are so very easily replaced by much nicer quality freeware. The Boeing's, Airbus and Dash 8's used in UT2 are very different between UT2 and MyT in that the ones used in UT2 don't look hideous.

 

Both programs paid for use of models from sites like aiaardvark. UTX usually has more detailed repaints.

 

  Actually, MyTraffic does not use ANY models from Aardvark.

 

 

Custom AI users these days are replacing the AIA models with newer freeware available from FAIB. They very recently released a new AI B747-400 and B747-8. http://fsxaibureau.com/manufacturing/

I have replaced all of the "dodgy" looking models in UT2 (CRJs, ATRs, ERJs, 146s, A380s, Fokker 50s etc.) with much better quality versions. I only fly around the UK and Ireland, so I don't get to see too many Russian airliners, but I do have a couple of "special" flightplans for a Tu 134 and Tu 154 :wink:

Mine also I replaced with faib models and tfs a380s