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To cut a long story short airlines such as Ryanair and Jet2 in the UK are the default dalaedus (sp) paint. How can I change these to the proper liveries? Is it an easy process? Also how would I update schedules?

 

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that stuff is not easy. Its possible but will take you forever. I would switch to ###ai, updated routes and models and schemes

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Hi folks

To cut a long story short airlines such as Ryanair and Jet2 in the UK are the default dalaedus (sp) paint. How can I change these to the proper liveries? Is it an easy process? Also how would I update schedules?

 

Many thanks!

 

Replacing daeladus paints is pretty easy. You need to download AI models of aircraft operated buy Ryanair & Jet2, and then proper paints for them. Then you can assign those paints for Ryanair and Jet 2 schedules through UT2 program.

Downloading and installing AI models & paints for a lot of airlines is very time consuming, however it really isn't complicated at all. 

 

Through UT2 power pack program (I think it isn't included by default, you can download it from somewhere) you can also add custom flightplans to UT2... So if you want up to date flightplans for let's say Ryanair you can just go download new ttools flightplans, then use the power pack to create a new UT2 database, and finally use the main UT2 program to assign right liveries for it. Naturally you need to disable the original UT2 plans by deleting aircraft assignments to avoid having  duplicate traffic. 

 

Like said this stuff is very time consuming, however if you have the patience to download & assign liveries and up to date schedules there's no better AI traffic addon than UT2. If you don't have the time then I would recommend Mytraffic. 

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I couldnt do all that ...I used my WOAI packages for those airlines instead and set then using the traffic slider in FSX.

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that stuff is not easy. Its possible but will take you forever. I would switch to ###ai, updated routes and models and schemes

In addition to what Jim stated about it being pirated, endorsing it or recommending it goes against Avsim's TOS and can get you either banned or temporarily suspended as it did for some of the folks in this thread -> http://forum.avsim.net/topic/469856-ai-traffic-for-prepar3d-is-released/

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Replacing daeladus paints is pretty easy. [...]

 

I couldnt do all that ...I used my WOAI packages for those airlines instead and set then using the traffic slider in FSX.

 

The "fast and dirty" way is a combination of the two posts above:

 

1. you download the WOAI Packages for Ryanair and Jet2

2. you "install" them in a specific folder (you can select this using the WOAI Installer)

3. you move the aircraft folders from this WOAI folder in your UT2 aircraft folder

4. you assign the repaints in UT2

 

That's it. Like this, you will have the WOAI models and the UT2 flightplan. For each step I listed, you will find proper manuals online or in your UT2 folder...

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Great, thank you everyone for the replies, the WOAI fix has sorted it. I certainly will stay away from ###ai. It seems very unfair to people who have given their time for free for then someone else to claim it as they're own.

Thank you everyone.

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It takes 10 mins if that to add a repaint you can always pm me for my updates I'll send them over

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Guys, it's a known bug in UT2 that you lose all the AI traffic when flying over water bodies, I've seen it. My question is if it gets regenerated flying back over land. If so, how fast?

 

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The "fast and dirty" way is a combination of the two posts above:

 

1. you download the WOAI Packages for Ryanair and Jet2

2. you "install" them in a specific folder (you can select this using the WOAI Installer)

3. you move the aircraft folders from this WOAI folder in your UT2 aircraft folder

4. you assign the repaints in UT2

 

That's it. Like this, you will have the WOAI models and the UT2 flightplan. For each step I listed, you will find proper manuals online or in your UT2 folder...

I finally bit the bullet and installed WoAI a while back and I am happy I did.  So easy installing AI Aircraft (length of time taken is another story) but all in all, I get the AI traffic I want, it helps with immersion.  I used to have Mytraffic 2 as well and it was a staple of my FSX install, but it did cause problems for the stability of my sim, not to mention as the OP did with liveries not being in MT2 and you get the default Deadelus paints, which kinda put me off.  The timetables was annoying, trying to sync up with a timeline where I could get heavy flow from aircraft on the ground (likened to waiting on the taxiways in line for takeoff).

 

-Jim

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Guys, it's a known bug in UT2 that you lose all the AI traffic when flying over water bodies, I've seen it. My question is if it gets regenerated flying back over land. If so, how fast?

 

Thanks

 

When you come nearby land again it should regenerate very quickly.

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not to mention as the OP did with liveries not being in MT2 and you get the default Deadelus paints, which kinda put me off.  The timetables was annoying, trying to sync up with a timeline where I could get heavy flow from aircraft on the ground (likened to waiting on the taxiways in line for takeoff).

 

I know, but I took the time to look for those daedalus paints rather than installing all WOAI packages and in the end, it takes about the same amount of time. The trick: I exported the repaint list out of UT2 into an excel, filtered it for the non-existing or daedalus paints and started to download the missing repaints. In the same time, I completely replaced all 737 and A32X models and textures with the FAIB ones. Invested a hell lot of time, but it was worth it. One of the advantages of sticking to UT2: modifications are much faster done now using Powerpack or UT2 UI compared to WOAI, where it can be a pain to update a flightplan, unless you use an additional software.

 

It is a matter of fact that today, no AI Traffic Software/Tool is perfect. Whatever you chose, you have some smaller or bigger drawbacks. With MyTraffic, the models are ugly and need replacement, with UT2, you get the bug with no AI over water and outdated flightplans along with model limitations, WOAI is a pain to install and maintain and so on. Whatever you pick for a start, there is no way to avoid personal investment to improve the AI traffic. As long as you are ready to invest some time to get the most out of your selected AI Traffic Software/Tool, you can basically start off with all of those available now...

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Ultimate Traffic is abandoned by the devs, no more bug fixes, no more schedules. It's too bad. If they only fixed the disappearing over water and updated schedules it would be far and away the best Ai traffic program.

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I was really bummed to hear that UT2 was abandoned as it works so well.

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The "fast and dirty" way is a combination of the two posts above:

 

1. you download the WOAI Packages for Ryanair and Jet2

2. you "install" them in a specific folder (you can select this using the WOAI Installer)

3. you move the aircraft folders from this WOAI folder in your UT2 aircraft folder

4. you assign the repaints in UT2

 

That's it. Like this, you will have the WOAI models and the UT2 flightplan. For each step I listed, you will find proper manuals online or in your UT2 folder...

I do the same thing. You will also want to delete the traffic files that WOAI installs.

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I was really bummed to hear that UT2 was abandoned as it works so well.

If they fixed the bugs it would be perfect! Airplanes fly realistic routes rather than direct to airport flying with every other AI addon.

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There's people out there who are doing upto date schedules and uploading them to avsim every week.

 

I for example updated the latest easyJet summer ones yesterday. They import into ut2 in under 30 seconds. I can guarantee you they are more upto date than the mytraffic ones which are about 2 years old

 

Likewise people have updated many others last weej and repainters upload many new paints daily. Again taking no more than 30 seconds to install.

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If they fixed the bugs it would be perfect! Airplanes fly realistic routes rather than direct to airport flying with every other AI addon.

 

What bugs do you know besides flying over water?

 

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What bugs do you know besides flying over water?

 

Thanks

been so long I do not remember. One problem that isn't a bug, is airplanes only appear close to departure time. And disappear once they landed and stayed at the game for a short time. So if you fly in at night when it's quiet, using regular AI flight plans all the airplanes are sitting there waiting for a morning departure, but using ultimate traffic, the airport is empty until about an hour before an airplane departs then it appears at the gate.

 

Something that bugs me about ut is there are hundreds of missing repaints. You have to go out and get them and assign yourself, but so many repaints out there are not fsx compatible, so the logo light looks weird.

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This is a nice and fast tutorial on how to add planes/liveries to UT2:

 

https://youtu.be/1rikYny-8RU

 

Dirk.

most available repaints are for fs9, with an fsx lightmap not available. And to replace all the missing repaints in utx, you could spend a full week at least

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Great shame this is now gone!

 

The models are and always were so much better than any other product currently available they look very poor even in the latest versions.

 

Well I will still use UT until something better comes along if at all!

All the best

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