installed windows 10 when my 8.1 registry became corrupted, installed P3D, wow really fast, installed FSX wow really fast, installed add-ons wow what heaps of problems

 

MS raised the 'security' levels(s) with Win10 couple of notches, when one installs an add-on and want to check the dll.xml and the exe.xml they are NOT there. MS 'temporarily' sends 'suspected' program changes to a 'secure place' (haven't stuck to Win10 long enough to find out where that is and NO mentioning of this behavior on google-searches)) and these will appear in the <user> section a couple of reboots later, that's to late for my convenience.

 

This is a real problem when one depends on a lot of add-on's. So I went back Win7 until I read somewhere that someone figures out this Win10 behavior. Win10 will not allow disabling/removing of User Account Control Settings UAC - that's the real problem,

 

and rather unfortunate, for the FPS framerate in plain vanilla FSX and P3D were up almost 50% (!) (MS cleaned up their DirectX-old when introducing DX12 perhaps)

 

2cts

 

installed windows 10 when my 8.1 registry became corrupted, installed P3D, wow really fast, installed FSX wow really fast, installed add-ons wow what heaps of problems

 

MS raised the 'security' levels(s) with Win10 couple of notches, when one installs an add-on and want to check the dll.xml and the exe.xml they are NOT there. MS 'temporarily' sends 'suspected' program changes to a 'secure place' (haven't stuck to Win10 long enough to find out where that is and NO mentioning of this behavior on google-searches)) and these will appear in the <user> section a couple of reboots later, that's to late for my convenience.

 

This is a real problem when one depends on a lot of add-on's. So I went back Win7 until I read somewhere that someone figures out this Win10 behavior. Win10 will not allow disabling/removing of User Account Control Settings UAC - that's the real problem,

 

and rather unfortunate, for the FPS framerate in plain vanilla FSX and P3D were up almost 50% (!) (MS cleaned up their DirectX-old when introducing DX12 perhaps)

 

2cts

 

My guess is the increase in FPS was due to a fresh install of your OS, whether it be W7 or W10. The last update of W10 has caused some people problems with P3D. 

I have Windows 10 on a couple of my computers and I hate it.

I put Windows 10 on my flight sim computer and hated it worst.

The main reason is that I use a lot of controllers and Windows 10 can only handle 3 or 4 (can't remember), but Windows 7 can easily handle as many controllers as you can plug into it.

I read that Windows 7 has a feature that continuously sends something to the gaming controllers that are plugged in and these controllers need that feature in order to stay connected.  Windows 10 is designed for X-Box type controllers and only expects two or three of them to be connected at a time, so Microsoft did not include that feature which was included in Windows 7.  Thus when you plug in more controllers than it can handle a previously plugged in controller will disconnect.

This was driving me crazy, until I found out about it and uninstalled Windows 10.

This was only a problem with the clean, full install of Windows 10 out of the box.  If you upgrade from Windows 7 using the free upgrade, it probably won't be a problem because some of the features of Windows 7 will stay in the operating system.

Free software to automatically disable a win 10 upgrade and remove win 10 files from your pc https://www.grc.com/never10.htm

Win10 is working perfectly with P3Dv3x along with FSX-SE, Aerofly, XPX demo and the multitude of games I run (I only use a single stick so have no problem here). The update caught me by surprise and started while I left the PC running unattended, which peed me off no end, as there was some things I wanted to back-up first in case it all went pear shaped. I think its very naughty to make such a sweeping change without me first having to agree. Fortunately all went well, and apart from needing to find some new drivers everything worked, and all my files and apps are intact.

 

Performance seems the same as far as I can tell. I still get slow downs where I got them before, and I still get stutters where I got them before, so its no magic bullet for me. With my hardware and the settings I use (few compromises) I'm probably at the limits of performance, so any gains, should there be any, would go unnoticed.

 

I am thinking of upgrading my Win8 installation to Win10 within the free MS update period, just to be up-to-date. However, I just realize that LM still recommends Windows 7 as recommended system for Prepar3d V3. Are there still issues why Win10 is still not recommended?

 

I have no problems with Windows 8 and my sim installation, and other people appear to have no problem with Win10 either. But I do not intend to run into issues with my installation just because of an OS upgrade (i.e. not clean install) that is going to break something.

Hi Chris,

 

LOL, after reading all these posts your decision should be quite clear: Stick with what you know to be working and working well. By now I think you will have read what can be considered to be a representative sample of P3D users and it is evident that there really is no consensus.

 

There is absolutely no pressing need or, indeed, requirement to move to Windows 10...yet. Support for Windows 7/8/8.1 is likely to continue for a few more years before Microsoft tries to force these sort of decisions on us. Even then you still have a choice.

 

Those worthy folk who have upgraded successfully to W10 will, for whatever reason, proclaim the advantages of so doing, but making statements like it boots so much more quickly and is generally faster and 'snappier' just don't cut it as so much depends on how well your chosen operating system was performing prior to the update. We all know that there are many factors, mostly self-induced, which can bog down an o/s. I installed Windows 7 Pro 64bit SP1 in 2015 Q3 and I can tell you that it has rewarded me with near absolute stability and unhindered performance since day one. Boot times after MoBo checks have completed are around 40 secs and I always wait until Task Manager reports the System is idling at 99% before doing anything. Windows update is the usual culprit for delaying arrival at this state, but this can easily be remedied by stopping the Service.

 

With Windows 7 I feel I'm in control and currently there are no driver issues. Why on earth would I wish to compromise this happy situation when nothing can be guaranteed? Just makes no sense. Yes, there will come a time when an upgrade to Windows 10 becomes irresistible. Updating because it's still free is not a good enough reason, however. For me this is more likely to happen with withdrawal of support by Software and Hardware Developers or there is a must have Application which needs DIrectX 12 or will run only on Windows 10.

 

Windows 10 has nothing of a uniquely special nature that persuades me to make the change. Oh, and Prepar3D v3.2.3, and all the rest, runs great! What more could I ask for?

 

Regards,

Mike

I'm not going to keep fixing it till it breaks. Sticking with Windows 7.  :wink:

Updating because it's still free is not a good enough reason, however.

 

My understanding is that the window (excuse the pun) for updating for free is about to close. Sometime in July I think. After that, if you have not upgraded, you will have to pay get Windows 10 and it is not exactly cheap.

 

For me, Windows 10 has been great and has had about a year to mature now. For P3D/FSX, it probably makes very little, if any difference at all whether you use Win 7 or 10 but for other everyday computing it gets my vote. I suspect that many problems arose from upgrading over Win 7. There is a way to access the upgrade, format your PC and install Win 10 nice and clean. That's what I did. If you are unwilling to do that and spend some hours installing everything, you will probably be better off sticking to good old 7.

LOL, after reading all these posts your decision should be quite clear: Stick with what you know to be working and working well. By now I think you will have read what can be considered to be a representative sample of P3D users and it is evident that there really is no consensus.

 

Thank you Mike for your words. Was surprised that the old thread came up again.

 

In fact, in the office, we haved now moved to Win10 from Win8.1 and there were no issues with updating the PCs. Easy going and Win10 behaves similar to Win8.

 

But my flight sim PC at home is an other thing as there are many things running in the background (simconnect etc.). It have spent too many hours in keeping everything running, and modify little things everyday to make the sim more enjoyable. I might go from Win8 to Win8.1 one day and can easily go back if something breaks as I have an image of the whole installation.

Windows 10 and P3D here = AWESOME - not one problem

Hi Rich,

 

With the greatest respect I could say the same about Windows 7.

 

Regards,

Mike

I see no reason to upgrade to Windows 10 when my existing Windows 7 installation is working just fine. It makes no sense to upgrade just for the sake of it until I purchase a brand new PC, and that isn't likely for another two years.

 

 

the update caught me by surprise and started while I left the PC running unattended, which peed me off no end, as there was some things I wanted to back-up first in case it all went pear shaped. I think its very naughty to make such a sweeping change without me first having to agree.

 

As far as I am concerned, it is borderline illegal.

Hi Rich,

 

With the greatest respect I could say the same about Windows 7.

 

Regards,

Mike

 

Glad I switched but a little pain involved after an update that was a major update which hosed Us sim folks for the x-box folks - do my homework before installing anything windows 10 related again

My understanding is that the window (excuse the pun) for updating for free is about to close. Sometime in July I think. After that, if you have not upgraded, you will have to pay get Windows 10 and it is not exactly cheap.

 

Hi Greg,

 

I ask myself why Microsoft extended this hand of apparent 'generosity' at a time when economics suggested they might have been better advised charging from the word go? The fact of the matter is that Windows 7, unlike XP can still be regarded as being a very capable and stable modern operating system which continues to meet the needs of the majority of users out there. Enthusiastic support for Windows 7 will continue for the foreseeable future, that's certain. Right now, for me, it really is a no brainer. When I make the change I will pay; not really an issue. Let's see, set aside a pound/dollar a week, and knowing there's no urgency, should be plenty time to gather together the necessary funds....and I can spend any surplus on supportive counselling...LOL!

 

Seriously, if you want to make the change then go for it. I freely acknowledge that many are enjoying having made the transition without issues. I and others choose not to, but will at some point further down the road when we judge the time is right.

 

Regards,

Mike

As far as I am concerned, it is borderline illegal.

 

I guess at some earlier point the update was scheduled, but I did not dream it would just start with no input from myself.

 

I did intend to make the switch, but have been holding off and monitoring various forums to see how its progressed, and as far as I could gather it has matured into a stable and efficient OS with relatively few issues. So I was going to make the jump, just not that particular day when we were due to go out, so it did upset things somewhat.

 

Apart from some random wi-fi drop-outs, which I seem to have cured (fingers crossed) I am pleased to say its a good OS. I've had no crashes, or errors of any kind and some of the new features are nice. It doesn't boot any faster for me, and I've yet to see any measurable performance gains in the sims I use, or games I play; this might change as drivers become more Win10 focused.

 

From my own experience I would certainly not try and put anyone off the update, and would tend to advise those interested to make use of the free upgrade offer.

There is supposed to be a major update to Win10 in July (ish).  Frankly it needs it, I've had a lot of issues with Win10 the most annoying issue is when I right click on a file in File Explorer I get a long long delay as for some reason Win10 feels it needs to wake up my sleeping USB devices and/or NAS device (and waits for those devices to come online before showing me a menu) ... no idea why since neither of those devices have any related references to the menu that eventually appears.

 

Microsoft are being more aggressive with forcing Win10 updates, they will now "schedule" a date (usually about 3-5 days ahead) when they just start the update process without your interaction.  To cancel the scheduled update, you have to do that at the time you get the Windows Update message, don't just close the message as that does NOT cancel the scheduled update.

 

Another very annoying feature is the delay when I come to drag a window out of the way that currently doesn't have the "focus".

 

I sadly can't recommend Windows 10 in it's "current state" - I'm using it day to day for work and play ... maybe in July that will change with Microsoft's release a major update.  BUT, be aware Microsoft IS moving to a subscription based OS ... that's why they are pushing so very hard to get everyone on their currently "free" upgrade.  Much of what Microsoft are doing to their OS is "mobile" focused, so it's unlikely the desktop experience is going to get much attention.

 

Windows 10 market share is currently around 15%.  Windows 7 is 47%.  IMHO, the best desktop OS is still Mac OSX ... too bad it's such a small part of the market share (<7%).

 

Cheers, Rob.