May 21, 201610 yr Moderator Ah the days of pure machine code There was something to be said about direct communication with he cpu. I remember the days of looking up the command execution time to manually optimize the code for speed. And when keyboards and monitors were developed, writing the code to display ASCII characters on the CRT. Yup - that's a far cry from the RAD methods used today. Not to mention that a single "Hello World" app in today's environment is probably a thousand times bigger. Writing programs to run in 4 "K" of RAM was fun. Vic RIG#1 - I9 14900K MSI Pro z790 RTX 5070Ti 40" 4K Monitor 3840x2160
September 5, 20169 yr 11 inch disk pack with multiple platters. I worked with one that ran 11 disks in a single pack. Primary programming interface was a optical mylar tape reader. Secondary interface was the primary door (this thing was huge) with a bunch of lights representing the bits in the registers and buttons beneath each one. Ah the days of pure machine code. Well I can remember working in a company that ran its computer to do overnight processing. And it had a core store!! The computer geeks used it as a table tennis net! There was something to be said about direct communication with he cpu. I remember the days of looking up the command execution time to manually optimize the code for speed. And when keyboards and monitors were developed, writing the code to display ASCII characters on the CRT. Yup - that's a far cry from the RAD methods used today. Not to mention that a single "Hello World" app in today's environment is probably a thousand times bigger. Writing programs to run in 4 "K" of RAM was fun. Vic Well, my first flight sim was on a BBC micro with 28k memory!! Super VC10 into LOWI with PF3 at a cinema near you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=298UDyNmgUA
September 5, 20169 yr Mine was a TRS-80, 16k that needed a large interface fox to give 48k. Rows of IC's. It also had no decenders with the letters, so a 'k', 'b', 'y' would be the same size as a 'c' for example. We had to do a hardware mod to get decenders. We had a choice between a green, amber or a white low res monitor. No anti-aliasing, of course. Robin "Onward & Upward" ... To the Stars, & Beyond...
September 7, 20169 yr Sorry for the necomancy...but Makes you wonder how the Apollo Guidance Computer ever did what it did. I once saw that computer IRL at the Space Museum in Huntsville, AL (home of the Redstone arsenal which is the birthplace of the US space program), and at that time they solved their realtime guidance system equations with the use of hybrid computing, which melds together both analog and digital computing. That was bleeding edge stuff in its day, and we can thank the space program for significantly advancing IC and digital computer development. I worked with a hybrid computer in the first few years of my career; it was the only way to get the needed compute bandwidth needed for the realtime hardware in the loop simulation of the guidance systems we were testing. No such systems are needed with todays CPUs. Heck, we just retired a computer which had FFTs encoded into firmware ICs that cost $$$$$ and replaced it with standard off the shelf CPUs at a fraction of the cost. Talk about a redirect of an OP.... CPU: AMD 9800X3D PBO MB +200 CO -25| Motherboard: MSI MAG X870e Tomahawk WiFi | GPU: MSI RTX 5090 Ventus 3X OC | RAM: G.Skill 2x32GB DDR5 6000 cas 30 | M.2 SSDs: Samsung 990 EVO Plus 2T, WD Black SN750 M.2 1T | Hard Drive: WD Black HDD 6T 7200 | Optical Drive: LG Bluray writer, internal | Cooling: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO | Case: Fractal Design Focus G | PSU: NZXT C1200 1200W Win 11 Pro 64|HP Reverb G2 revised VR HMD|Asus 25" IPS 2K 60Hz monitor|Saitek X52 Pro & Peddles|TIR 5 (now retired)
September 8, 20169 yr Jon_aus, on 21 May 2016 - 10:43 PM, said:Makes you wonder how the Apollo Guidance Computer ever did what it did. It worked because it was not written by MS!!!! Super VC10 into LOWI with PF3 at a cinema near you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=298UDyNmgUA
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