February 26, 201610 yr Video tweaks worked well - boot up was fast to begin with now more than twice as fast - nice - use discretion when uninstalling apps - not sure dont do it and bookmark video if you need to revert something - keeper in my bookmarks Rich Sennett
February 26, 201610 yr A lot of the tweaks in that W10 tweaking video make no difference. For example uninstalling apps and disabling services. Once you disabled the background apps it makes no sense to uninstall them because they are no longer running. Most services run on-demand so disabling them makes no difference. There is a lot of bad Windows tweaking guides out there. I think Windows tweaking guides are there to make people feel better about themselves, and a lot of the tweaks don't do anything. So I would say use with caution. A lot of the stuff he shows is also personalization. A new i7 processor is so fast it doesn't matter if you have window sliding animations enabled. If you're running a P4 in Windows XP it might have mattered. A default W10 installation shouldn't cause you problems. I don't think there is anything in the default W10 installation that's so resource-hungry that it would cause a new i7 to run slowly. Edited February 26, 201610 yr by kirk_johnson
February 26, 201610 yr Understood but you cant dismiss the boot time is way better - I rest my case Rich Sennett
February 27, 201610 yr I had an SSD fail a couple of years ago....Brand new. Right before it failed my sim was stuttering hard on a clean install. I was pulling my hair out trying to find a solution. A day later my PC wouldn't boot with the drive installed anymore. Hopefully for the OP it's not something like this. Let us know how you get along if you decide to go the P3D route. I hate when these threads die off and the OP never tells what the end result was Steve McNitt
February 27, 201610 yr Author Total and complete removal of everything related to FSX-SE including the Steam software and reinstall. Same problem!!! I was going to try P3D but then I found out they don't support iFly 737 yet. I've shut down as many services in Windows 10 that I can and I am running Windows 10 in performance mode. I don't know what else to do. Bob Bressert
February 27, 201610 yr Good grief! What a horrible chase you have run! Do you have any other games or simulations? To see if the issue is isolated to FSX SE? What about system memory? Have you tried trading slots with the modules? Or swapping out the modules? Anyone else know of any BIOS settings to try? HT on/HT off? Anything else? Frank Patton Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener. Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126 "I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere
February 27, 201610 yr Bob do you have any utility to monitor CPU or GPU temps? Your CPU could be overheating and throttling causing the stutters. Maybe the heat sink got jostled loose in shipping, I've seen that before especially on air cooled setups where the CPU cooler is very heavy. if your PC didn't come with anything to check then you can always use: http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html Steve McNitt
February 27, 201610 yr I had an SSD fail a couple of years ago....Brand new. Right before it failed my sim was stuttering hard on a clean install. I was pulling my hair out trying to find a solution. A day later my PC wouldn't boot with the drive installed anymore. Hopefully for the OP it's not something like this. Let us know how you get along if you decide to go the P3D route. I hate when these threads die off and the OP never tells what the end result was In that case it would be wise to check the HD SMART status to make sure the SSD is good. I would benchmark the SSD as well. Good grief! What a horrible chase you have run! Do you have any other games or simulations? To see if the issue is isolated to FSX SE? What about system memory? Have you tried trading slots with the modules? Or swapping out the modules? Anyone else know of any BIOS settings to try? HT on/HT off? Anything else? It's not memory. Bad memory would cause a blue screen of death. However, it would be worthwhile to check if it's an FSX only problem. For example try the X-Plane demo. Does vanilla FSX stutter or does it stutter only after you load add-ons? Bob do you have any utility to monitor CPU or GPU temps? Your CPU could be overheating and throttling causing the stutters. Maybe the heat sink got jostled loose in shipping, I've seen that before especially on air cooled setups where the CPU cooler is very heavy. if your PC didn't come with anything to check then you can always use: http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html HWMonitor will also tell you your CPU and GPU frequency. They should be both running at full speed when running FSX. Sometimes power saving settings might throttle the CPU or GPU frequency. Sometimes power saving settings can slow down the SSD as well.
February 28, 201610 yr Video tweaks worked well - boot up was fast to begin with now more than twice as fast - nice - use discretion when uninstalling apps - not sure dont do it and bookmark video if you need to revert something - keeper in my bookmarks Yes, good video and great tweaks, I know from comparisons they do work no matter what some say. There's another even deeper one that I used right after W10 installation, these 2 are my Nick_N-like SOP for W10 tweaking, here: And I still use some of Nick_N tweaks, for example moving all the temp folders and recycle bin from my SSD to HD and some others. Cheers, Dirk. Also forgot to add my current fsx.cfg settings are based on SteveW's past suggestions in a different thread (thank you Steve!). Do I get it right you've swtched to 30 + 1/2 refresh from 20 + 1/3 refresh? Thanks.
February 28, 201610 yr Yes, good video and great tweaks, I know from comparisons they do work no matter what some say. There's another even deeper one that I used right after W10 installation, these 2 are my Nick_N-like SOP for W10 tweaking, here: And I still use some of Nick_N tweaks, for example moving all the temp folders and recycle bin from my SSD to HD and some others. Yes I forgot about NIcks tweaks I did try them sometime back - have to re-visit - thanks Rich Sennett
February 28, 201610 yr Understood but you cant dismiss the boot time is way better - I rest my case Hey Rich, You're right and I had the same experience that's why I posted the vid link. Win10 is a different animal than Win7 (where I would generally agree with Kirk). There is a just a boatload of spyware-type crap that even if it doesn't make much difference for FSX its still worthwhile to remove...unless of course you like sharing everything you do with the mothership. :wink: Ilya Ilya Eydis, PPL, ASEL
February 28, 201610 yr Hey Rich, You're right and I had the same experience that's why I posted the vid link. Win10 is a different animal than Win7 (where I would generally agree with Kirk). There is a just a boatload of spyware-type crap that even if it doesn't make much difference for FSX its still worthwhile to remove...unless of course you like sharing everything you do with the mothership. :wink: Ilya 1+ Rich Sennett
February 28, 201610 yr Author Hi all! I decided to reinstall FSX-SE because iFly 737 is not supported on P3D yet. So...I am flying my first flight and things are better, at least with this first flight, but they are not perfect. I am flying the Aerosoft A320 and I did have some stutters as I taxied, but I don't think as much as before. I have installed the X-plane demo and had no stutters at all. So, that's where I'm at. I think that as soon as iFly 737 is supported on P3D I'll make the switch. Thanks to all for your help! Hopefully things are going better for you all. Bob Bressert
February 28, 201610 yr Glad to know things are better. I know what it is like to chase your tail with FSX. I have it running pretty good now, but I feel I have lost half my life to tweaking it; more tweaking than flying probably! Just to say, I have the same spec as you (even down to the water cooler!), and it runs smooth at 30 fps in general, but when turning hard in the air, or turning quickly when taxying, it still stutters every now and then, so I think it is just something we have to get used to. The game Skyrim also stutters a little bit when turning fast very similar to FSX; it seems to be a thing on the PC when scrolling fast sideways. I also had a Radeon 390 8gb (which I swapped out due to the persistent water texture corruption issues in FSX DX10) and this suffered with the same issue. I kind of accept it now. Rob (but call me Bob or Rob, I don't mind). I like to trick airline passengers into thinking I have my own swimming pool in my back yard by painting a large blue rectangle on my patio. Intel 14900K in a Z790 motherboard with water cooling, RTX 4080, 32 GB 6000 CL30 DDR5 RAM, W11 and MSFS on Samsung 980 Pro NVME SSD's. Core Isolation Off, Game Mode Off.
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