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Anyone Using PilotEdge?

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When it works, MultiCrew Experience is fun for VFR stuff, but it's inconsistent on my build. And I've looked into VATSIM but the coverage is pretty sparse when I want to fly. So I'm thinking of giving PilotEdge a shot, and wondered who's using it and what that experience has been like for you. Many thanks in advance.

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There is a two week free trial... So, you better get your own conclusions!

 

Almost everybody will agree that it's the best ATC service for the time being!

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I just spent some time listening in. It sounds great. It'll help me get over mike fright, that's for sure.

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I've been on Pilotedge 8 months and love it. I passed v1 to v3 and i1 to i11 exams and learned a lot.

 

The quality of the system and controllers is first class.

 

When I can't fly online I practice in Socal area ready for the next real Pilotedge 'adventure'.

 

It's challenging but the discipline of someone watching my progress, navigation and altitude etc has improved my flying significantly.

 

It is 100% realistic compared to live ATC. Give it a try with the trial 2 weeks.

 

Dean

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To add to what I said in your other thread. Yes PilotEdge could be very valuable with you getting comfortable with using the radios. The big difference for me with PilotEdge vs. ATC programs is that you have to actually think about what to say. Who you are, where you are, and what you want to do. This includes for example knowing where you are when you call the tower instead of just pressing a button that says it for you. Even in a VFR situation you’ll get things that you don’t get with ATC programs for example 45 degree pattern entry, reporting X mile final, and being cleared for the option.

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Does it simulate VHF transmissions yet, or does it still sound like Teamspeak?

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In 35 years of flight simming PilotEdge is the best add-on I have ever used. It's costly and has a limited coverage area, but they are obviously focused on quality over quantity and they absolutely deliver in that regard.

 

In addition to the two-week trail there are also a plethora of YouTube videos if you want to get a feel for what the service is like. In particular I found the videos of Mark Hargrove very helpful when preparing for some of the ratings flights. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzq87NHKgAK2nRjgCWZ4IjQ

 

Does it simulate VHF transmissions yet, or does it still sound like Teamspeak?

PilotEdge is not a radio simulator, its focus is on learning and practicing real-world ATC procedures. If pretend radio static is a requirement of yours then PilotEdge is probably not the right choice for you.

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PilotEdge is not a radio simulator, its focus is on learning and practicing real-world ATC procedures. If pretend radio static is a requirement of yours then PilotEdge is probably not the right choice for you.

 

Your tone seems a little condescending. I am a Vatsim controller for ZLA, used PE for a while and am now in the FAA to become a controller. "Radio static" is not what I was implying. I was simply asking if they implemented it yet. Keith Smith is a friend of mine and last I heard he had plans to add it Wing. Excuse my question. But having it sound correct adds to the overall realism which in the end is what we are all after. 

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"Radio static" is not what I was implying. I was simply asking if they implemented it yet. Keith Smith is a friend of mine and last I heard he had plans to add it Wing.

 

That'd be cool.  As a RW pilot, it kinda bugged me that it sounded so...clear?

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I just spent some time listening in. It sounds great. It'll help me get over mike fright, that's for sure.

 

Why are you afraid of Mike. What did he ever do to you?  :wink:

Your tone seems a little condescending. I am a Vatsim controller for ZLA, used PE for a while and am now in the FAA to become a controller. "Radio static" is not what I was implying. I was simply asking if they implemented it yet. Keith Smith is a friend of mine and last I heard he had plans to add it Wing. Excuse my question. But having it sound correct adds to the overall realism which in the end is what we are all after. 

 

I'm guessing if Keith is a friend of yours you could/would already have your answer.

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Sadly I don't have much free time any more to do many things I enjoy in the world of sims on the PC. Keith is tremendously busy, promoting and handling PR and expansion for his business. I feel I already know the answer anyways, I would rather let the community answer and let him focus on what he is doing so well on already. 

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That'd be cool. As a RW pilot, it kinda bugged me that it sounded so...clear?

As another RW pilot - I concur with Greg - it kind of bothered me as well - while I might use PE for some light practice - I'd still like the radio - to sound like a radio... Listening to the demo radio sound was a bit of a turn off and probably played a part in me not trying the demo...

 

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Scott

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Clear sound is great for us, the Non-english speakers :)

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As a non-pilot who listens to LiveATC more than I would casually admit to my friends, I would have to say that while I applaud the desire to have PilotEdge sound like the real thing, if I were just starting off learning, I would definitely appreciate the 'crystal-clear' voices! :wink:

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Your tone seems a little condescending. I am a Vatsim controller for ZLA, used PE for a while and am now in the FAA to become a controller. "Radio static" is not what I was implying. I was simply asking if they implemented it yet. Keith Smith is a friend of mine and last I heard he had plans to add it Wing. Excuse my question.

I've heard people use add-on programs that add static and distortion to their transmission and frankly I find them annoying, unrealistic, and silly. I don't know how the PilotEdge controllers feel about them, but considering they're trying to wear many hats and juggle multiple aircraft with pilots of widely varying skill levels in the air and on the ground in a large coverage area, some guy coming on deliberately trying to make himself more difficult to understand because he thinks it makes him sound cool is probably not appreciated.

 

Sadly I don't have much free time any more to do many things I enjoy in the world of sims on the PC. Keith is tremendously busy, promoting and handling PR and expansion for his business. I feel I already know the answer anyways, I would rather let the community answer and let him focus on what he is doing so well on already.

In the time it took you to type the couple of messages you could have listened to some recent PilotEdge audio: http://www.pilotedge.net/audio/today The PilotEdge audio archives are nice because they automatically edit out the dead air.

 

I also want to mention, Keith is very active on the PilotEdge forums. That's another thing that impresses me about PilotEdge, the founder of the company is an active participant in the community and very accessible.

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Does it simulate VHF transmissions yet, or does it still sound like Teamspeak?

 

 

They were looking at it, but not implemented yet. That being said, there are already a numbers of solutions you can install on your side so you sound -VHF like- to controllers/pilots on the network and you hear them -VHF like- as well.

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As a non-pilot who listens to LiveATC more than I would casually admit to my friends, I would have to say that while I applaud the desire to have PilotEdge sound like the real thing, if I were just starting off learning, I would definitely appreciate the 'crystal-clear' voices! :wink:

Bear in mind that what you hear on LiveATC is what is picked up on a scanner in someone's house who may or may not have a decent antenna and may or may not be in close proximity to an airport. If you sit in an aircraft with the engine off near a control tower and are using a good-quality headset, radio transmissions are generally very clear. It doesn't exactly sound like PilotEdge, but it does not sound like a bad CB radio either.

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I'm all over it. Definitely going to try out the two-week trial, and I look forward to learning what I'll learn.

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I am a RW pilot and you won't get much more realistic sim training than PE.  They are all professionals who do it by the book.  The audio doesn't have the same noise you hear a lot of times in a headset but that is very minor compared to the tremendous training you receive.

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I was really impressed with PE. It will give you the realistic procedures that are missing in VATSIM (and they won't correct). What you do in PE, you would do in the real airplane. 

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Just did my first flight. It was killer.

 

I flew the suggested intro flight from L52 to KSBP. Given that I'm not a real-world pilot, this was my first time dealing with anything this ... real. It was surprisingly intense, actually. While I had watched the video and flown the flight a few times before logging in to get my wits about me, I can't believe how nervous I was. It was ridiculous. Truly.

 

Nonetheless, I thought I handled myself well. Got a radio check from KSBP tower before making the call on L52 CTAF just to make sure my PTT switch was working. Went through the right steps once out of the pattern, made the final call on two mile final, and even though I was ridiculously anxious I greased the landing. Made a nice turn off 29 and waited for direction.

 

Feeling pretty good about myself, I was. So much so I sort of stopped paying attention as I basked in my own glory. After a few seconds I thought, "Did he tell me to taxi to the ramp? He must have."

 

Wrong move, bucko. The next thing I hear is: "Uhh ... Cessna 5 Juliet Golf, where are you going?" I apologized that I had missed the call. A brief but well deserved lecture followed.

 

It was all really pretty amazing, and my adrenaline was really flowing. I'll be sending in my check (along with reviewing every training workshop they've got so I can better know what the hell I'm doing).

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They were looking at it, but not implemented yet. That being said, there are already a numbers of solutions you can install on your side so you sound -VHF like- to controllers/pilots on the network and you hear them -VHF like- as well.

 

I think that's true and, really, probably the best solution.  That way people who want to hear very clear sounds can do so and people that want to hear sound like you'd hear on Live ATC could do so as well. 

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I agree with Gregg, provide the option on voice clarity. As was mentioned by Neucoas earlier in this thread, not only will adding static to the voices make it more difficult for those whom english is not their native language but also for those that have a hearing deficiency. Considering the average age of flight simmers I expect that I am not the only one that falls into the latter category :Big Grin: .

 

One of the reasons I gave up real life flying is that it became to difficult for me to understand air traffic control. My girlfriend did not feel comfortable having to repeat the air traffic communication for me or talking to air traffic control herself. Unfortunate as I really liked having a copilot to operate the radios. Made me feel like a real Captain.

 

I bought the Airline2sim training video but with the UK accents and the two pilots talking over each other I had to keep rewinding it to try to understand what was being said. After 15 minutes I gave up and never tried again.

 

The more people that use this service the better it will be for everyone. So I think having the option to choose clear voices or static simulation added to the voices is the best for everyone. This isn't just for the benefit of the two groups I mentioned above. For those native english speakers with perfect hearing, you certainly don't want to hear a lot of "say again" and "please repeats last transmission" on the airwaves. Followed by others saying "get a good headset" when that may not be the problem.

 

I just wanted to present everyone here with another perspective.

 

Ted

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I wonder if Pilotedge Traffic doubled when Orbx Socal came out.

 

Donald

 

Funny you say that, because I got SoCal yesterday for just that reason.

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