July 6, 20169 yr when the charts dont show those options. I use navigraph both for the charts and FMC database, TIA Hello, I'm not Kyle but... The charts do show these options. If you look at the Navigraph, you can find the ILS Y 25L (7-80) and ILS Z 25L (7-70). And in the CDU, they are noted ILSY 25L and ILSZ 25L (I have just checked), or we don't have the same data base. Mine is the latest 1607. Romain Roux Avec l'avion, nous avons inventé la ligne droite. St Exupéry, Terre des hommes.
July 6, 20169 yr Commercial Member Hello, I'm not Kyle but... The charts do show these options. If you look at the Navigraph, you can find the ILS Y 25L (7-80) and ILS Z 25L (7-70). And in the CDU, they are noted ILSY 25L and ILSZ 25L (I have just checked), or we don't have the same data base. Mine is the latest 1607. ^ This. Thanks Romain! To add a little bit of background to this, the standard for naming approaches vary a bit between charting providers and manufacturers. As an example, you may find a different name for the same approach on the NACO chart, the Jepp chart, in a Honeywell FMS, and in a Garmin GPS. Kyle Rodgers
July 6, 20169 yr Moderator I don't think there's any need to arm the APP function - that's for the ILS. Correct me if I'm wrong.I should have been clearer when I posted. I was referring to the NGX since I was referencing the RNAV approach into SBRJ as you wouldn't be able to land a T7 there, at least not comfortably. Anyway, I still don't see why a video tutorial would be needed to set up or fly an RNAV approach since it's pretty straight forward imho. Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
July 7, 20169 yr Most approaches I do in the real world are RNAV to the LOC. I have a very simple five step procedure that I follow for all RNAV approaches. Parts of my method are contrary to what I have seen in the post. blaustern I Earned My Spurs in Vietnam
July 7, 20169 yr Hello, I'm not Kyle but... The charts do show these options. If you look at the Navigraph, you can find the ILS Y 25L (7-80) and ILS Z 25L (7-70). And in the CDU, they are noted ILSY 25L and ILSZ 25L (I have just checked), or we don't have the same data base. Mine is the latest 1607. Thanks for the reply Budbud. Yes I have 1607 for for the 737NGX But what about the charts.. I have Airport Index version 1625.0.0.0 on Navigraph charts and no updates available reported. Can you confirm your version pls? Len Carne
July 7, 20169 yr I'm not sure about the version, I'm using the website, not the chart viewer. https://charts.navigraph.com/Login.aspx?action=loginrequired But otherwise you can also look at the real AIP website, where you have all the charts up-to-date for Spain: http://www.enaire.es/csee/Satellite/navegacion-aerea/en/Page/1078418725163/ Romain Roux Avec l'avion, nous avons inventé la ligne droite. St Exupéry, Terre des hommes.
July 7, 20169 yr Hi Len http://charts.navigraph.com/l.aspx?c=leblt7080151 http://charts.navigraph.com/l.aspx?c=leblt7090151 You'll need to log in with your Navigraph username and password. Haven't checked the desktop viewer but would be surprised if they weren't there. Simon Simon Kelsey
July 7, 20169 yr Hi Kyle, as usual the fount of all knowledge Can you tell me why at LEBL ( Barcelona) I get in the 737NGX options like runway ILS25LY and ILS25LZ as landing runway options when the charts dont show those options. I use navigraph both for the charts and FMC database, TIA This is very off topic.. but the answer is simple: The FMC is displaying the approaches that Navigraph includes in the sidstar file, it's not up to the NGX to decide what to provide as selections. As for the charts, I too use Navigraph charts and have an ILS Y 25L and ILS Z 25L pair of charts. Maybe you should start a new post for ILS approaches to dig deeper into your question. Dan Downs KCRP
July 7, 20169 yr Hi Len http://charts.navigraph.com/l.aspx?c=leblt7080151 http://charts.navigraph.com/l.aspx?c=leblt7090151 You'll need to log in with your Navigraph username and password. Haven't checked the desktop viewer but would be surprised if they weren't there. Simon Thnx.. Seems they are not updating the desktop version mmmm Len Carne
July 7, 20169 yr Thnx.. Seems they are not updating the desktop version mmmm The Navigraph Charts Desktop only automatically updates its indexes, you must manually select each outdated location and right click to select download update. As I said, you went pretty far off topic. Dan Downs KCRP
July 8, 20169 yr At KDEN, they are using EoR with one aircraft on the ILS to one parallel runway and another aircraft established on the RNAV (RNP) AR to the other parallel runway. I used to fly for Horizon Air out here in the Northwest and Seattle just started these approaches, RNAV (RNP) M, though SEA hates doing RNAV stuff so unfortunately it's not too common there. In testing though, Horizon was the first to perform this type of approach alongside an Alaska 737. Growing up and starting my first job in the Midwest, we rarely used RNAV approaches at American Eagle (Envoy) but when I went to Horizon, they would actually prefer us to use GPS based approaches instead of ground based if they were available. The RNP stuff is really cool and I enjoyed flying those approaches, especially ones with curved RF legs. It's pretty amazing to sit there and watch the plane do its thing on RNP .1 approaches down a mountain valley in the weather. Sean Wood Sean Wood
July 8, 20169 yr especially ones with curved RF legs We got those here in Corpus Christi, for North traffic pattern the American Eagles from DFW enter the IAF North of field and the RF legs provide a perfect downwind/base transition to FAF. Very nice to fly. Also may help reduce the chances of landing at nearby Navy Cabaniss auxiliary field with same runway pattern...lol, that does happen on occasion but last one was a Continental crew. It's one way to end a career. Dan Downs KCRP
July 9, 20169 yr The Navigraph Charts Desktop only automatically updates its indexes, you must manually select each outdated location and right click to select download update. As I said, you went pretty far off topic. I use the Navigraph Cloud which is always current. I prefer DOD plates. In fact I still have my DOD plates for Kai Tak. blaustern I Earned My Spurs in Vietnam
July 10, 20169 yr Commercial Member I use the Navigraph Cloud which is always current. I prefer DOD plates. In fact I still have my DOD plates for Kai Tak. blaustern From what I understand the Navigraph Cloud is only updated every 3ish months. If that's the case, it may not actually be current. Kyle Rodgers
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