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I have been browsing the forum for a while and reading your advice on system builds and wanted to give feed back on your tips and information from mine.

 

 

I just built an i7 6700k, GTX 1080, Windows 10 Pro (decided to upgrade on it's own late at night. I guess as the PC's owner I don't have a say :smile: ) and 32GB of G.Skill ram. The improvements in Prepar3d v3.3 are absolutely mind blowing. With a fresh install no add on's I saw an average of 100 FPS ground/air. I loaded up the new Aerosoft's Frankfurt, Prepar3d Sliders midway to high, HIFI, ASN, PMDG 777, ORBX Global and Vector and was getting an average FPS of 60-70.  I could have never hoped in my life I would see results like this with all the additional add ons running. Been simming for over 20 years and 6 personal builds and never seen a speed increase like this before. I was expecting to have to go into the high heat range to get these results. I am not a professional computer wiz or hold a certification just my two cents and probably late to the party of smoothness.

 

Thank you to all the informative posts and information in the forum!

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Thank you to all the informative posts and information in the forum!

 

Sounds good.

And is this with no overclocking yet?

 

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...i7 6700k, GTX 1080, Windows 10 Pro (decided to upgrade on it's own late at night. I guess as the PC's owner I don't have a say :smile: ) and 32GB of G.Skill ram.

 

Now, if my rig would just pay for and assemble itself in the same way I would forever be most appreciative. What a wonderful Birthday surprise that would be, which is highly appropriate since I have a birthday this year!

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 The improvements in Prepar3d v3.3 are absolutely mind blowing. W

 

 

That's fantastic news Ash!

 

I have the components for a similar build, in boxes, on my bedroom floor. STILL haven't built yet as I have just my bedroom to finish before I'm in a position to do so. Guess I'm about a week away hopefully.

 

Your post makes me very excited and anxious to get stuck in. Only difference is that I have 16 GB of GSkill Ripjaw V's and a 980Ti. And NH-D15S rather than the runny stuff.

 

Thanks for taking the time to provide feedback.  :smile:

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Brilliant.

 

I am in the process of building a similar machine, only with a 1070 instead of a 1080. I am also moving from one to 3 screens, which should put a significantly heavier load on the GPU. Your report makes me confident that my new build should give me similar performance to my old build (2600K@4GHz, gtx 780) despite the increased screen real estate.

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Now, if my rig would just pay for and assemble itself in the same way I would forever be most appreciative. What a wonderful Birthday surprise that would be, which is highly appropriate since I have a birthday this year!

True...I would settle for it installing all of my add ons :smile:

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Nice build and happy for you with those numbers and results.

I hope to have the same joy when I build my similar rig this fall.

Enjoy.

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I have been browsing the forum for a while and reading your advice on system builds and wanted to give feed back on your tips and information from mine.

 

 

I just built an i7 6700k, GTX 1080, Windows 10 Pro (decided to upgrade on it's own late at night. I guess as the PC's owner I don't have a say :smile: ) and 32GB of G.Skill ram. The improvements in Prepar3d v3.3 are absolutely mind blowing. With a fresh install no add on's I saw an average of 100 FPS ground/air. I loaded up the new Aerosoft's Frankfurt, Prepar3d Sliders midway to high, HIFI, ASN, PMDG 777, ORBX Global and Vector and was getting an average FPS of 60-70.  I could have never hoped in my life I would see results like this with all the additional add ons running. Been simming for over 20 years and 6 personal builds and never seen a speed increase like this before. I was expecting to have to go into the high heat range to get these results. I am not a professional computer wiz or hold a certification just my two cents and probably late to the party of smoothness.

 

Thank you to all the informative posts and information in the forum!

 ok, now load up Shadowplay and record and upload to Youtube and SHOW US!!!...that would be verrrry cool!

 

cant wait...I got the 1080...your vid could push me over the brink for an MSI gamer MOBO, 16-32GB ram and a sweet lil i-7-6700K

 

Chas

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Brilliant.
 
I am in the process of building a similar machine, only with a 1070 instead of a 1080. I am also moving from one to 3 screens, which should put a significantly heavier load on the GPU. Your report makes me confident that my new build should give me similar performance to my old build (2600K@4GHz, gtx 780) despite the increased screen real estate.

 

If I may follow up on my own post:
 
I completed setting up my three monitors using Nvidia surround (view groups had too much of a performance hit for me). It turns out that I am still very CPU bound, and even though I can turn up stuff like AA and shadows (and still only utilise 50-60% of my 1070), I still have to be quite restrictive on scenery detail. I need to limit my scenery to dense on all three sliders in order to remain mostly locked at 30 FPS with the 737ngx. Time for some overclocking...
 
Anyway, I'm guessing that any 1080 system will be similarly CPU limited for large displays without a significant overclocking.

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Thanks for the report. Can't wait. I already got the 6700k thing ready.

But the 1080.... was preordered on 27th May and I am still waiting (Thank you EVGA :diablo: ).

I guess I should just change my mind and get the first FE I find.

Ash is your EVGA 1080 a FE ?

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just built an i7 6700k, GTX 1080, Windows 10 Pro (decided to upgrade on it's own late at night. I guess as the PC's owner I don't have a say :smile: ) and 32GB of G.Skill ram. The improvements in Prepar3d v3.3 are absolutely mind blowing.

 

What were your previous specifications? I'd like to put your improvements into perspective because I'm considering a similar move!

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Nice GAIN. Love to see a Youtube of your machine at work.

 

What MOBO did you use and RAM.

 

I have a GTX970 and running AMD and am seriously considering a new build later this year.

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I just built an i7 6700k, GTX 1080, Windows 10 Pro (decided to upgrade on it's own late at night. I guess as the PC's owner I don't have a say :smile: ) and 32GB of G.Skill ram. The improvements in Prepar3d v3.3 are absolutely mind blowing. With a fresh install no add on's I saw an average of 100 FPS ground/air. I loaded up the new Aerosoft's Frankfurt, Prepar3d Sliders midway to high, HIFI, ASN, PMDG 777, ORBX Global and Vector and was getting an average FPS of 60-70.

 

Again, I do not like to be the showstopper, but without ANY information on your previous setup, this is rather useless new piece of information. AND: without ANY information on the used settings (including resolution), also something like "60FPS on Aerosofts Frankfurt" is completely irrelevant. I can easily achieve this, but then my P3D looks worse than FS9. Why do I mention this at all? Because those FPS number surprise me like hell. I also use Aerosofts Frankfurt, along with FSGRW, Aerosofts A320, UT2 with 30% AI traffic, ORBX Global, REX and Vector and I am happy if I have more than 25FPS while taxiing in Frankfurt in cloudy weather conditions. And I use 1440p. But just to underline, what I mean: if you would use exactly the same settings, this would mean that you have 240% (!!!!) more FPS compared to my setup, which is simply not possible (I use an 3770K@4.5GHz with a 980Ti OC).

 

So, it would be really nice if you could provide:

 

- the old system information

- the resolution you currently use

- the precise settings (including antialiasing and nVinspector settings if used at all)

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I guess I should just change my mind and get the first FE I find.

Ash is your EVGA 1080 a FE ?

 

 

Don't do it. Be patent. You will only twist your extremely flexible, rubber-like legs backwards and kick you self in the gluteus maximus if you do. That will be when the non-reference cards with their superior overclocks and awesome coolers, not to mention top-notch VRM's are available.

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I have been browsing the forum for a while and reading your advice on system builds and wanted to give feed back on your tips and information from mine.

 

 

I just built an i7 6700k, GTX 1080, Windows 10 Pro (decided to upgrade on it's own late at night. I guess as the PC's owner I don't have a say :smile: ) and 32GB of G.Skill ram. The improvements in Prepar3d v3.3 are absolutely mind blowing. With a fresh install no add on's I saw an average of 100 FPS ground/air. I loaded up the new Aerosoft's Frankfurt, Prepar3d Sliders midway to high, HIFI, ASN, PMDG 777, ORBX Global and Vector and was getting an average FPS of 60-70.  I could have never hoped in my life I would see results like this with all the additional add ons running. Been simming for over 20 years and 6 personal builds and never seen a speed increase like this before. I was expecting to have to go into the high heat range to get these results. I am not a professional computer wiz or hold a certification just my two cents and probably late to the party of smoothness.

 

Thank you to all the informative posts and information in the forum!

 

Ash, your build is very similar to mine but I have a Zotac Amp! Extreme 980Ti and I share your sentiments on the performance of this component setup.

My machine is absolutely easily going through everything I throw at it at 4k and ultra settings.

GTA V and Tom Clancey's 'The Division' must be seen to be believed at 4k..

Congrats on the new rig and enjoy!

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Don't do it. Be patent. You will only twist your extremely flexible, rubber-like legs backwards and kick you self in the gluteus maximus if you do. That will be when the non-reference cards with their superior overclocks and awesome coolers, not to mention top-notch VRM's are available.

 

 

Non-reference cards aren't overclocking any better than FE cards at this point in time, and the only way they ever will is if someone cracks the Pascal VBIOS and is able to workaround the power limits Nvidia has set.  I have a 1070 Gaming X from MSI, a full-custom card and it can only hit 2050MHz on the core, same as all the FE 1070 reviews.  The same situation is true with 1080s.  

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My previous setup was a EVGA GTX 970, Intel 2700k, 16GB of DDDR3 RAM, MSI motherboard, Win 7 home, and FSX SP2. This is a first time for me running Prepar3D and one the reasons I'm going slow turning the sliders to the right and updating you guys. Meaning I am new to the program and am still trying to figure it out. I flew the 777-300 from Memphis to Frankfurt today my average FPS was in the 50-60 (Huge weather cell off the east coast and around Germany might of had to do with the loss of FPS). My 1080 is a founders edition and from everything I have heard I would wait for the next version. I work in the maritime community driving large ships so I am always on borrowed time when my feet are on dry land. My resolution is 1920x1080x32 and the refresh is 60hz. I am going to tweak my Nvidia inspector setting next flight will get back to you on that. Like I said I have not started pushing my system yet but running P3d stock with no addons I was getting in the 100's and with all my addons PMDG, FTX Global, FTX Vector, FS Global 2010, Frankfurt, and HIFI ASN I am working in the 60-70's and like you said the more clouds and moving vehicles will play a factor.

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...My resolution is 1920x1080x32 and the refresh is 60hz. I am going to tweak my Nvidia inspector setting next flight will get back to you on that. Like I said I have not started pushing my system yet but running P3d stock with no addons I was getting in the 100's and with all my addons PMDG, FTX Global, FTX Vector, FS Global 2010, Frankfurt, and HIFI ASN I am working in the 60-70's and like you said the more clouds and moving vehicles will play a factor.

 

And film at 11?

..still waiting for that YouTube vid

 

Chas

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Non-reference cards aren't overclocking any better than FE cards at this point in time, and the only way they ever will is if someone cracks the Pascal VBIOS and is able to workaround the power limits Nvidia has set. I have a 1070 Gaming X from MSI, a full-custom card and it can only hit 2050MHz on the core, same as all the FE 1070 reviews. The same situation is true with 1080s.

 

True enough Max, can't argue with that. But something like a non-reference EVGA card with it's ACX 3.0 cooler will be cooler and quieter for a given overclock. Personaly, I wouldn't go for a reference (FE) card.

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I have a 1070 Gaming X from MSI

 

Are you happy with it?

I am on my 3rd week of waiting for an Asus GTX 1080 Strixx and slowly start to reconsider. The MSI 1070 would be available now and as I don' t own a 4k monitor yet the 1070 would be more than enough...

( I am currently on a new build, i7 6700k, but without GPU, which is not funny at all)

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Are you happy with it?

I am on my 3rd week of waiting for an Asus GTX 1080 Strixx and slowly start to reconsider. The MSI 1070 would be available now and as I don' t own a 4k monitor yet the 1070 would be more than enough...

( I am currently on a new build, i7 6700k, but without GPU, which is not funny at all)

Have you tried this site ?

 

https://www.komplett.dk/search?q=gtx+1080

 

Maybe they will ship to you

 

 

Sorry only std editions

 

 

Michael Moe

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Are you happy with it?

I am on my 3rd week of waiting for an Asus GTX 1080 Strixx and slowly start to reconsider. The MSI 1070 would be available now and as I don' t own a 4k monitor yet the 1070 would be more than enough...

( I am currently on a new build, i7 6700k, but without GPU, which is not funny at all)

 

 

It's hard for me to answer that because I'm a very special case.  Prior to this card I owned a 980 Ti which was volt-modded and overclocked on water so it was an extremely good performer.  The 1070 without its power limits increased via modded VBIOS is just a little bit slower so for me this is technically a downgrade, but only by a few percent.  I hope that someone cracks the Pascal VBIOS by the time I water cool this one so I can get a better overclock and then it would actually be even or slightly ahead, and with significantly less power consumption and more VRAM so that's worth it in my book.

 

I'm guessing you're not in the same situation though so from that perspective it's a fantastic card, even with the stock cooler.  A bit overpriced right now though given the stock levels @ various retailers.  I bought my card early last week @ Micro Center and I needed to stop in yesterday and just happened to see someone picking up the same card.  Last week I bought it for $469 and it was overpriced then.  Looks like they're scalping even worse now because it's up to $489.  Newegg has it at $459 (out of stock) which according to the only place on the net I've been able to locate an allegged MSRP for this card is actually not overpriced https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1070_Gaming_X/  However, I remember this card being priced as low as $429 at one point for pre-order so it's pretty obvious they've been adjusting prices upwards during this high demand/low availability period.  

 

On that note, I'm very disappointed by both availability and pricing of cards for this launch, it's the worst I've ever seen and I've been buying video cards since the 90s (hence why I often say video card instead of the more current "graphics card").  We really need AMD to step up and release some competitive offerings at the high end of the market or this trend will become the standard from now on, I'm afraid.

 

Enough of a rant from me, here's a summary in easy to read pro/con format.

 

Pros: 

-fast (previous generation high-end performance for a good amount less money)

-low power consumption

-great stock cooling solution

 

Cons:

-low availability/overpriced compared to MSRP

-doesn't overclock very well since the stock boost is already very high

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On that note, I'm very disappointed by both availability and pricing of cards for this launch,

 

Thanks for you review of the MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X.

 

I am also not pleased with this launch. I spoke to the dealer I ordered the Asus Strixx 1080 from and he told me that smaller dealers only get 1 or 2 cards, the bigger ones maybe 10-20 with each shipment. Only the founders editions or standard cards are somewhat available.

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Sorry if I am abusing this thread, but I am about to turn my back on the 1080 craziness with high surcharges and long waiting times.

 

@OC3D they say the MSI 1070 Gaming X is so close to the performance of the 1080 in game and actually recommend it.

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/msi_gtx1070_gaming_x_review/20

 

-fast (previous generation high-end performance for a good amount less money)

 

What is your experience in P3D, is it possible to fly smoothly in P3D in 4k with your MSI 1070?

 

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