Sign in to follow this  
Rob Ainscough

Windows 10 Anniversary (1607) Update experience

Recommended Posts

I installed Win 10 Enterprise 1607 on two of my PCs (work/test PC and Flight Sim PC).  Happy to report that both survived the experience.

 

Used two different methods to update, work/test PC I downloaded full Enterprise 1607 and just ran the Setup.exe and upgraded.

 

On my flight sim PC, I let Windows Update do the upgrade to 1607.

 

Results:

1.  Cisco VPN Client was disabled, fair enough this Client is a known security vulnerability (there is a possible hack to work around it being blocked by Win10, but 50/50 success and requires reg editing).  I purchased a VPN router (linksys LRT224) that will be my VPN (probably should have done this a long time ago since Cisco VPN EOL in 2015 with no support).

2.  Silverlight developer runtime would not longer work in VS 2015, had to manually uninstall my current Silverlight developer runtime and download a new one from Microsoft and install it.

3.  nVidia SLI mode was reset to some unknown state, required bringing up NCP and selecting an option to recover the SLI state

4.  Reset my prefered/default audio device to my 4K Sony monitor (my default audio device was my MOTU audio interface - USB based), had to reset that back my MOTU and reboot.

5.  P3D v3.3.5 didn't see some of my USB device, not sure why, the OS reported them ... anyway, rebooted and started P3D again and everything was fine, all devices working.

6.  GoFlight - need to run GFWindows8Fixer.exe (Run As Admin) 

 

Performance:

1.  In desktop mode, Windows seem to drag/activate much faster ... before I had a delay when doing click and hold (drag operation) often resulting in NOT dragging the window, this issue seems to be fixed.

2.  In File Explorer, right click context menu no longer has a delay (external devices, NAS, USB drives that may be in sleep mode) when showing it's context

3.  The overall desktop open/closing windows etc. seems a little more snappy

4.  After running my P3D test loop, Fraps time frame data 50% fewer long frames (>40ms) - this was unexpected - unfortunately there were two variants, nVidia 368.81 and Win10 1607 compared to my prior test results

 

So overall there were a few bumps, all of those bumps I've been able to resolve and I seem to be get far fewer long frames (often called stutters) in P3D.

 

I'll chalk this down as a positive result even if the 1607 update brings NO new features I care about, Microsoft has addressed some of the usability issues and seems to have improved performance (at least on the desktop side).

 

Cheers, Rob.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Help AVSIM continue to serve you!
Please donate today!

You're lucky. It won't even install on my Win 10 Pro box and it's tried about 3 times already. iOS, Android and Apple OS have no problems automatically upgrading their OSes on a wide variety of devices without disabling and messing with everything. To bad that MS can't figure that out.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

OSX has been and will be my favorite desktop OS ... but at 7% market share it doesn't appear to be the choice for many, too bad, it really is the best OS ever produced IMHO.

 

Have you tried to download the full version of Win10 Pro?  Pro is paid version not free?  Install from full version, sounds like you have something blocking the install process ... anti-virus maybe?

 

Cheers, Rob.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

This Windows update is actually running very well for me after resolving these issue, P3D is smoother.

 

Cheers, Rob.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

My experience is unfortunately not the same other than some USB issues I'm getting many half second stutters than I didn't have before with my fps bouncing all over.  So far I have been unable to resolve the cause.  P3Dv3.3.5 was running beautifully before the update.
 
I'm on the verge of reverting back to the previous W10 version.
 
6700K ASRock Z170 OC Formula GTX 1080 FTW H115i DDR4 SDRAM 2666MHz Samsung 850 Pro

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I found 361.81 and improvement in stutters for me too, Rob, without the Win update. But I'll hope the new Win 10 helps frames as well.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Trashed my win 10 install so had to reinstall and now it seems fine except for when it shuts down and reboots the pc every once in awhile even when just sitting idle at the desktop.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

 

 


Pro is paid version not free?  I

 

No, the free version of Win10 came as an upgrade to match whatever flavor of Windows  (7 or 8.1) was installed previously, either Home or Pro.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

No, the free version of Win10 came as an upgrade to match whatever flavor of Windows  (7 or 8.1) was installed previously, either Home or Pro.

 

Yup - I have pro version of windows 10 - free - depended on your windows 7 version you had - in my case I had Ultimate 64

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

 

 


4.  After running my P3D test loop, Fraps time frame data 50% fewer long frames (>40ms) - this was unexpected - unfortunately there were two variants, nVidia 368.81 and Win10 1607 compared to my prior test results


Give this a whirl Rob. Running it here myself. Two 980 Ti's in SLI:  http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=409112

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

My flightsim computer is for nothing more than flightsimming and downloading software for it. Not going anywhere near this W10 update. In fact I have shut off updates for it. Not messing with something that isnt broke!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Not messing with something that isnt broke!

 

While it ain't broke, why not make it better.  What I never understood about this community is the fear of new technology. I've been working in IT professionally for a long time now and whatever hiccup there could be is typically sorted out in short order. (if possible) I fix it myself. Most people you see with solid running sims also have a good background knowledge of a PC as well. Reading never killed anyone.

  • Upvote 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It broke Ultimate Traffic 2 in P3D for me. Unfixable with multiple reinstalls and registry massaging.

 

Howard,

 

I've just installed the win 10 update (Pro versions)on 3 computers , with no worries -  I intended purchasing UT2 this weekend prior to the update, but now I'm having second thoughts because of your post. Can you tell me if you installed UT2 using 'Poppets' guide in these forums or did you use the Estonia migration tool and is your Prepar3D v3.5?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It broke Ultimate Traffic 2 in P3D for me. Unfixable with multiple reinstalls and registry massaging.

Define registry massaging and broke. Did you check the simobjects.cfg to make sure the 1) it was numbered correctly. 2) that UT2 aircraft is present. Since It works fine for me.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yup. I know how to uninstall and reinstall it in P3D - done it a few times. First run of P3D after Windows update gave a message about UT2 it not being registered. I have a registered copy so I uninstalled and reinstalled using the wrapper. Then it gave messages about sim not being shut down properly and to restart PC each time I started P3D. Uninstalled and reinstalled UT2 several times, deleted all references in registry etc. Still got the same. it was working okay in P3D 3.5 prior to windows update.

 

I researched that message which can also occur in FSX but there is no clear solution. If you have no problems then good luck to you. I've moved to MyTraffic6 and will try AI Controller.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Define registry massaging and broke. Did you check the simobjects.cfg to make sure the 1) it was numbered correctly. 2) that UT2 aircraft is present. Since It works fine for me.

 

David - maybe you can help me then, did you install using Poppets method or using migration tool?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

No problem with the Anniversary update here. However, for some reason it disables System Restore which you probably wouldn't notice until you needed it!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Installed the upgrade about a week before the deadline.  Unplugged, rebooted Win7 x64 then replugged all my hardware USB's before upgrading to Win10 and everything but networking went off without a hitch.  Had to delete homegroup settings in order to link both PC's again.  Loving this round of Win10 upgrade right now, P3D seems to run smoother and is more stable.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Just wanted to report back that running the GoFlight GFWindows8Fixer.exe fixed my USB issues with my GoFlight modules and the stutters I was experiencing.  Thanks Rob for reminding me to run that!  All good now with the Anniversary update,

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

David - maybe you can help me then, did you install using Poppets method or using migration tool?

Poppets method is essentially what the migration tool does but more thorough. I would follow her method to check it over.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Poppets method is essentially what the migration tool does but more thorough. I would follow her method to check it over.

 

 

I did intent to use Poppets method, she is very thorough and helpful in all things Simming. Thanks for letting me know

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I did a fresh install of Win10 Pro 1511 on a new machine, then let MS upgrade to 1607 before I reinstalled P3Dv3 and merged back my addons from a previous install. All went more or less nice and I am happy as can be with the performance and the stability.

The only minor annoyance comes from the UAC (which I do not want to turn off); but whenever I launch an application as admin from the Explorer the respective UAC dialog doe not pop into the foreground automatically. I need to click into another program window (or onto the desktop) and then click back to the Explorer which brings the dialog to the front. Alt-Tabbing to the dialog does not work ... interesting at least...

 

Cheers

Frank

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this