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PROATCX-v1850 new version anyone test it yet

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PROATCX-v1850 new version released today ... anyone test it yet

 

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Clive,

Thanks for the P3D Avsim link to ProatcX.

I may try it in P3D later.

 

I will be testing in FSX now.

 

Note: I tried the ProatcX forum but it is too busy to get into .... will try later tho.

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Wish I could....still can't get the update to download and install.  I'll try again later in the event there is a server issue. 

 

....finally got it installed.  Will try a flight soon!

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Wish I could....still can't get the update to download and install.  I'll try again later in the event there is a server issue. 

 

....finally got it installed.  Will try a flight soon!

Great, let us know how your Proatc-X  flight did in FSX.

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Wish I could....still can't get the update to download and install.  I'll try again later in the event there is a server issue. 

 

....finally got it installed.  Will try a flight soon!

Update didn't work for me as well, but I downloaded the full installer without any issues. Just make sure you backup your flight plans and airline/airplane data before installing it, and follow the instructions given in the forum.

 

Just having my first flight with the new version. Very nice so far, everything works smoothly and handling of ground traffic and arriving traffic worked perfectly. I have only two small issues with the new version:

 

1) Searching for an airline is not easy because you only can list them by country. A search field where you can look up a name regardless of country would be helpful. I do like that one can add new airlines, though.

 

2) I once closed the Pro-ATC communications window in P3D without entering a number, but by right-clicking on it. After that, I wasn't able to open the window anymore and had to restart the flight.

 

Peter

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Here's my first flight with the release version. It's a replay of a live stream I did last night (sorry fr the low mic volume, family was sleeping). The link start from the time where I display my settings I have used for years.

 

http://youtu.be/2GtYTNoHkt0?t=1m56s

 

NOTE: In the video description, there are links to different phases of the flight, make sure to watch the (crash) landing (-390fpm).

 

EDIT: Good flight. One thing I would like to see is runway crossing clearances.

Edited by Jarkko

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Peter,

 

"Just having my first flight with the new version. Very nice so far, everything works smoothly and handling of ground traffic and arriving traffic worked perfectly."

That is great news .. thanks for sharing how your PROatc-X flight is going thus far.

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Hi Vaughan,

 

I just completed the flight and it worked perfectly. Congratulations to the Pro-ATC team for a job well done.

 

Peter

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Hi Vaughan,

 

I just completed the flight and it worked perfectly. Congratulations to the Pro-ATC team for a job well done.

 

Peter

Great news.

Thanks for the feedback on your flight with PROatc-X ... much appreciated.

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With the positive feedback from Peter is this addon now a viable alternative to Radar Contact?

If so I will purchase this week.

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With the positive feedback from Peter is this addon now a viable alternative to Radar Contact?

 

In a word, "Yes" !  Radar Contact was a great program for its time... but the latest ATC offerings have relegated it to the history books.

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With the positive feedback from Peter is this addon now a viable alternative to Radar Contact?

If so I will purchase this week.

For IFR flying: yes. For VFR flying: no.

 

ProATC only supports IFR flights and favors bigger airports.

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In a word, "Yes" !  Radar Contact was a great program for its time... but the latest ATC offerings have relegated it to the history books.

I still use Radar Contact in VR with my Vive-I get solid reliable ATC every time-so althought it's old and imperfect (there is NO perfect ATC for sims at present) it does the job for me very well.

Jay

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Tested new version, and menu and interface is much better. Seems more stable too. It still unfortunate an immersive killer when it comes to call signs.

For example, Pilot uses call sign "New Zealand" and that is fine, but some controllers say "A--N--ZEEEE"

 

I think it is more suited to flying in Europe, with the voices that are used.

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Pilot uses call sign "New Zealand" and that is fine, but some controllers say "A--N--ZEEEE"

 

This usually means that the callsign is missing from the voice set. If you don't' like "A-N-Z", then you can configure ATC (under options) to say "Alpha-November-Zulu" if that makes things any better.

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In a word, "Yes" !  Radar Contact was a great program for its time... but the latest ATC offerings have relegated it to the history books.

 

One question I would like answering please. When flying Concorde it is cleared to FL600 but rarely reached that altitude except in tropical areas where the troposphere is cold enough. That wasn't a problem in the real world as it had airspace to itself once above FL420.

 

RC4 requires you to maintain a climb rate of at least 200fpm. If that isn't achievable (because of weight / temperature issues) there is an option in RC4 to turn off the vertical 'watchdog'. No more nagging about not achieving your assigned FL.

 

Has ProATC-X a similar vertical watchdog that can be disabled when required?

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Hi Ray,

 

I have to be honest, I don't own the Concorde - so I've never had a chance to test the situation you describe in ProATC/X.  By default, ProATC/X does a whole lot less nagging than RC4 (maybe even too little nagging for some users' tastes).  Personally, I felt RC4 could get pretty annoying with all of its complaining... especially with frequency changes.  What climb rate can the Concorde maintain at those altitudes?  Maybe I could simulate the slow climb at lower altitudes and let you know.

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Thanks MD. It's easy to test this without Concorde. Just request a FL and then set your climb rate to 50fpm. I'm guessing you'll be nagged. Try also levelling out for a short while and see how the Controller handles that.

 

I did experience a much earlier version of PROATC-X and it didn't monitor your climb rate. I wonder if that's been remidied.

 

Incidentally those frequency changes were all legit as you are passed to different controllers as you climb or descend. That's how it happens in the r/w so should be replicated in any serious ATC program.

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Incidentally those frequency changes were all legit as you are passed to different controllers as you climb or descend. That's how it happens in the r/w so should be replicated in any serious ATC program.

 

At the current moment, the percentage of the real world IFR flights conducted by a Concorde is around 0%. This is why I have to say I disagree. Nice to have: yes, must have: not in my opinion.

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At the current moment, the percentage of the real world IFR flights conducted by a Concorde is around 0%. This is why I have to say I disagree. Nice to have: yes, must have: not in my opinion.

These are general rules for all aircraft so sorry but they do apply. ARTCC has several classes of airspace. This is necessary so aircraft at FL330 don't hear instructions for those thousands of feet lower and vice-versa.

 

I imagine PROATC-X employs such a system.

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I imagine PROATC-X employs such a system.

 

ATC program handling IFR flight should be aware of the SIDs/STARs/approaches/transitions available at a given airport. ATC should also be able to know taxiways available at a given airport.

 

I imagine RC4 employs such a system.

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ATC program handling IFR flight should be aware of the SIDs/STARs/approaches/transitions available at a given airport. ATC should also be able to know taxiways available at a given airport.

 

I imagine RC4 employs such a system.

 

I'm not going to get into an argument with you about the merits of each ATC program. I was simply responding to MD's comment about RC instructing pilots to contact multiple centres. If ProATC-X doesn't do that then fine.

 

I know ProATC-X issues taxi instructions and SID/STAR instructions which RC4 didn't do. That was planned for v5 which was cancelled due to the author's personal circumstances changing.

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That was planned for v5 which was cancelled due to the author's personal circumstances changing.

 

Family always comes first, there is no doubt about that. I don't think anyone would have done things the other way around.

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Family always comes first, there is no doubt about that. I don't think anyone would have done things the other way around.

 

Agreed.

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