Question about Traffic Optimizer

[GSalden 4,656]

The Prosim flightplan goes directly into the CDU .

After shutting down the flightplanner part there is only a flightplan in the CDU on my client pc.

For me it is better to enter both airports manually in TO.

 

Thanks.

[simmerhead 885]

Yep, You'll have to do it manually unless your CDU creates a default FSX/P3D flight plan. 

[Kuragiman 227]

TO is a must have program on my flights and it works extremely well in P3D.    Once I understood how it works it allowed me to unlock a world I thought I'd never see in my flight sim universe... fully stocked airports without FPS going into the toilet.    This is how I set my flights up.

 

I'll get a flight plan filed from SimBrief and load the PLN file into the simulator.  Once I am in the cockpit SimStarterNG fires up TO automatically for me and it scans my flight plan and populates the Departure and Arrival airports into TO.   Be sure Preserve Traffic is on and Auto-Optimize set.  AI traffic limited to 100 planes.   I am good to go there.

 

My traffic slider is set to 75% Commercial traffic in P3D and my AI plane limit is set to 100 in TO.   When you use TO you can get away with really high slider values because TO is going to do magic.   When you use sliders below 40% like many do to save on FPS you are eliminating WAY to many aircraft at your departure and arrival airport.    When you set your sliders really high (75-90%) you get all the traffic that is suppose to be at the airport.   TO will then look at your AI limit, look at what airports you want to keep traffic at and then it wipes out those 200+ other AI that you will never see.    Your FPS stabilizes after a few seconds of the planes getting deleted and wallah;  25+ FPS and smooth at even major airports like KLAX on my rig and I get tons of traffic, realistic delays because of congestion and having to wait on departing and arriving planes.   It does not fix the planes not spacing out properly on final approach so you get a lot of go arounds.  You need another app to handle better separation of aircraft on final.  I will find myself after I arrive just sitting at the gate and in outside view mode, using EZDOK to fly around the airport and look at the dozens and dozens of aircraft doing their thing

 

The view at KDEN before departure yesterday to KBNA was awesome.  100 AI aircraft limit was reached.  85 on the ground with 15 on approach... KDEN looked alive!   Even KBNA was hoping when I got there with 25 AC at the gates and 10 arriving over the next ten minutes.  <3

[rwalls 25]

This sounds really cool. I'm going to give it a try. Is anyone using it with UT2 in P3D?

 

Thanks ... Richard

[Kuragiman 227]

This sounds really cool. I'm going to give it a try. Is anyone using it with UT2 in P3D?

 

Thanks ... Richard

 

Works with UT2.   Same principal used when I used it.  Set the traffic levels high but trim them off with TO.  UT2 has a traffic trimming feature but TO's I think is superior because it targets specific airports rather than range from your plane.   That is not very helpful when you are at an airport like KMDW or KDAL and right next to it withint 6 miles is O'Hare and DFW!  @_@   I don't need 200 planes spawning at those airports.. I am not THERE!

[carlito777 712]

 

 

I have TO networked and it automatically gets the airport ID from the flight plan.

 

Hi Maurice,

 

is there an installation guide how to set it up in a networked environment? I already run AS16 and ProATC from a networked PC so I have the networked Simconnect already running.

 

Thanks!

 

Carlo

[reecemj 146]

I install and it worked. I have all the simconnect and widefs install. Go back to the TO thread you may find a answer. But TO also runs fine on the same rig. 

[Dirk98 354]

TO is a must have program on my flights and it works extremely well in P3D.    Once I understood how it works it allowed me to unlock a world I thought I'd never see in my flight sim universe... fully stocked airports without FPS going into the toilet.    This is how I set my flights up.

 

I'll get a flight plan filed from SimBrief and load the PLN file into the simulator.  Once I am in the cockpit SimStarterNG fires up TO automatically for me and it scans my flight plan and populates the Departure and Arrival airports into TO.   Be sure Preserve Traffic is on and Auto-Optimize set.  AI traffic limited to 100 planes.   I am good to go there.

 

My traffic slider is set to 75% Commercial traffic in P3D and my AI plane limit is set to 100 in TO.   When you use TO you can get away with really high slider values because TO is going to do magic.   When you use sliders below 40% like many do to save on FPS you are eliminating WAY to many aircraft at your departure and arrival airport.    When you set your sliders really high (75-90%) you get all the traffic that is suppose to be at the airport.   TO will then look at your AI limit, look at what airports you want to keep traffic at and then it wipes out those 200+ other AI that you will never see.    Your FPS stabilizes after a few seconds of the planes getting deleted and wallah;  25+ FPS and smooth at even major airports like KLAX on my rig and I get tons of traffic, realistic delays because of congestion and having to wait on departing and arriving planes.   It does not fix the planes not spacing out properly on final approach so you get a lot of go arounds.  You need another app to handle better separation of aircraft on final.  I will find myself after I arrive just sitting at the gate and in outside view mode, using EZDOK to fly around the airport and look at the dozens and dozens of aircraft doing their thing

 

The view at KDEN before departure yesterday to KBNA was awesome.  100 AI aircraft limit was reached.  85 on the ground with 15 on approach... KDEN looked alive!   Even KBNA was hoping when I got there with 25 AC at the gates and 10 arriving over the next ten minutes.  <3

 

 

I would like to add to the above that even before launching TO I first run AI CULL that eliminates non-pertinent traffic in the air, that does not fly between the 2 airports of interest (departure/arrival). Only after that I run TO that brings down the remaining AI number to 100. Might be redundant, but it does not hurt for sure, as I did not research how exactly TO cuts down the number of AI.

 

Dirk. 

[reecemj 146]

 

 

I would like to add to the above that even before launching TO I first run AI CULL that eliminates non-pertinent traffic in the air, that does not fly between the 2 airports of interest (departure/arrival).

TO does that and only keeps the traffic in your area. I have seen it on a map that shows traffic.

[RaptyrOne 1,398]

Does this program also accommodate your alternate, or just your departure, enroute and arrival AI traffic? Keen to give it a try after purchasing Aerosoft's Mega Heathrow Xtended.Even with a low AI setting, this airport is really buzzing with AI. Great eye candy but tough on the system.

[Ray Proudfoot 8,932]

No alternate I'm afraid.

[simmerhead 885]

Maybe you can change your destination AP to the alternate and press "optimize" if it becomes needed.

[jason99vmi 157]

You could do that but I think you would still need to move your AI slider up or down 1% in order for the sim to reload the aircraft it deleted out.   This way your alternate would not be empty. 

[jlund 380]

I'm almost ready to try it, BUT it's a big no no for me that it doesn't space out landing traffic. Still a lot of go arounds is kind of a big ting. You don't see that in real life where the ATC creates separation among landing planes and also makes room for planes to take off in between, so there won't be a huge line of waiting aircrafts on the ground. Isn't there any way to acheive this in Traffic manger?

[simmerhead 885]

Don't think there is any way to manage the traffic outside of deleting the owerflow, but who knows.

 

The AI engine needs a complete overhaul, but it's unlikely that Lockheed Martin will pay attention to it. Their focus has been very narrow and targeted memory management, DX11 compatibility and scenario creation and management - Things they have done well. The rest of the sim is still laregly unchanced since FSX (ATC, AI and terrain engine). The only thing they've done is added bathymetry and added a few "payware" aircraft as a band aid for deleting half of the FSX fleet.

 

In that regard it will be interesting to see where DTG is heading, and also aerofly FS2.