November 24, 20169 yr for anyone waiting on this classic. I passed on the BAC-111, here's hoping that this will be a little more polished but being released right at Thanksgiving weekend makes me a bit skeptical. I hope it wasn't pushed out the door too soon. Will be looking for feedback from the early adopters especially anyone who has experience with the F-27 previously released. RE Thomason Jr.
November 24, 20169 yr I have missed Rick Piper's version for many years, so am lookign forward to this one.
November 24, 20169 yr This could be a lot of fun for bouncing around northern Canada...looking forward to hearing first impressions. Dave Current System (Running at 4k): ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F, Ryzen 7800X3D, RTX 5090, 55" Samsung Q80T, 64GB DDR5 6000 RAM, EVGA CLC 280mm AIO Cooler, Brunner CLS-E NG Yoke, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS & Stick, Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant & Add-on, VirtualFly Ruddo+, TQ6+ and Yoko+, GoFlight MCP-PRO and EFIS, Skalarki FCU and MCDU
November 24, 20169 yr A big surprise for me that this bird is released already!. Signed-in on a list at Just Flight to have an email sent to me when the aircraft was released, but I didn't get any email, as promised (a minus for JF). Anyway, this is a sure buy for me!. Used to watch this plane in action in the old days -back in late sixties- of a nearby airport (now closed), and it was gorgeous. Cheers, Ed Cheers, Ed MSFS2020 Steam // Rig: Corsair Graphite 760T Full Tower - ASUS MBoard Maximus XII Hero Z490 - CPU Intel i9-10900K - 64GB RAM - MSI RTX2080 Super 8GB - [1xNVMe M.2 1TB + 1xNVMe M.2 2TB (Samsung)] + [1xSSD 1TB + 1xSSD 2TB (Crucial)] + [1xSSD 1TB (Samsung)] + 1 HDD Seagate 2TB + 1 HDD Seagate External 4TB - Monitor LG 29UC97C UWHD Curved - PSU Corsair RM1000x // Thrustmaster FCS & MS XBOX Controllers
November 25, 20169 yr Author A big surprise for me that this bird is released already!. Signed-in on a list at Just Flight to have an email sent to me when the aircraft was released, but I didn't get any email, as promised (a minus for JF). Hey Ed on a positive note that's how I learned about the release, why i got an email an you didn't is a mystery? At any rate if you pick it up please give us your feedback! The animations in the promo video look really well done, here's hoping the flight model and systems follow suit. RE Thomason Jr.
November 25, 20169 yr Hi RE: Got it a few moments ago. First impressions: 1. Acceptable exterior model. Not as sharp as Carenado models, which are HD. 2. VC cockpit textures are not photorealistic, not HD, barely acceptable to me. 3. Very, very easy on FPS and VAS (mainly because for reasons stated above). 4. Asked at JF forums about the paint-kit, that it seems that should be downloaded separatedly, but have not found a link yet. Overall, first impression is a rating of 6.5 out of 10, to my taste. Have not yet tried the systems, functions, switches, etc. A bit expensive for what the product offers, IMHO. Cheers, Ed Cheers, Ed MSFS2020 Steam // Rig: Corsair Graphite 760T Full Tower - ASUS MBoard Maximus XII Hero Z490 - CPU Intel i9-10900K - 64GB RAM - MSI RTX2080 Super 8GB - [1xNVMe M.2 1TB + 1xNVMe M.2 2TB (Samsung)] + [1xSSD 1TB + 1xSSD 2TB (Crucial)] + [1xSSD 1TB (Samsung)] + 1 HDD Seagate 2TB + 1 HDD Seagate External 4TB - Monitor LG 29UC97C UWHD Curved - PSU Corsair RM1000x // Thrustmaster FCS & MS XBOX Controllers
November 25, 20169 yr I was waiting for this for a long time....but I think I'll pass - the cockpit textures are a bit cartoonish, and I think the Rick Pyper version was a lot better. In fact this release seems to be based on Rick's. Same goes for the BAC 1-11.
November 25, 20169 yr Even Matlby's BAC and Pyper's HS looked way better than this childly looking VC's. I bet the systems on both are better then JF's renditions. Whats wrong with JF ? their Connie and DC3 looked also like this, same developpers I think.
November 25, 20169 yr I don't think JF have changed. I think the simming users have changed. We've become much more demanding over a period of 5 years, while some developers havent really raised the bar at all. What was a very appealing aircraft produced by JF 5 years ago, just doesn't appeal anymore.
November 25, 20169 yr Hi Folks: I purchased it as well, and was prepared for the worst. I do agree with all of Ed's assessments. The VC has a sort of "cartoonish" look to it, but in all fairness, it's not that bad, and it is significantly better than their earlier efforts. It installed easily, and the good news is this thing works well. I have only done the introductory flight, but every knob and switch seemed to work as promised. It seems to handle as it should. It met v speeds as listed, handled nicely manually, and the autopilot worked as it should when I got a little lazy. In short, other than the graphics in the VC, this is a pretty nice plane. I would say this is quite close, systems wise to Rick Pipers version, but it's been a while since I last flew that! - Roger
November 26, 20169 yr I bought it as soon as I saw the announcement. I grew up around the Avro and flew in it often. I have to say, I am disappointed in this release. The plane simply feels rushed. It has nice features but like others said, the VC is a step backwards. I am also disappointed with the sound set. The beta range sound is fairly accurate but sounds in the alpha range are not quite there. AFG's YS-11 captured this well. I also noticed the absence of the distinctive reverse throttle sound (maybe I'm doing something wrong, but my controls are configured properly). Anyway, the plane needs more work, IMHO. Hopefully, it will be patched in the future. --T
November 26, 20169 yr I bought it as soon as I saw the announcement. I grew up around the Avro and flew in it often. I have to say, I am disappointed in this release. The plane simply feels rushed. It has nice features but like others said, the VC is a step backwards. I am also disappointed with the sound set. The beta range sound is fairly accurate but sounds in the alpha range are not quite there. AFG's YS-11 captured this well. I also noticed the absence of the distinctive reverse throttle sound (maybe I'm doing something wrong, but my controls are configured properly). Anyway, the plane needs more work, IMHO. Hopefully, it will be patched in the future. --T Patching this would require a completely new model. Totally disappointed here, in all aspects!, and the price..., this is absurd!. Cheers, Ed http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/showthread.php?195053-Hawker-Siddeley-HS-748 Just a question: is this working with FSX (or even P3D)?. Cheers, Ed Cheers, Ed MSFS2020 Steam // Rig: Corsair Graphite 760T Full Tower - ASUS MBoard Maximus XII Hero Z490 - CPU Intel i9-10900K - 64GB RAM - MSI RTX2080 Super 8GB - [1xNVMe M.2 1TB + 1xNVMe M.2 2TB (Samsung)] + [1xSSD 1TB + 1xSSD 2TB (Crucial)] + [1xSSD 1TB (Samsung)] + 1 HDD Seagate 2TB + 1 HDD Seagate External 4TB - Monitor LG 29UC97C UWHD Curved - PSU Corsair RM1000x // Thrustmaster FCS & MS XBOX Controllers
November 26, 20169 yr This one works fine in FSX SE. http://www.cbfsim.co.uk/cbfs_lib/thumbnails.php?album=18http://www.cbfsim.co.uk/cbfs_lib/thumbnails.php?album=18. This link is in the Mutleys Hanger comprehensive review. Best wishes, Peter
November 26, 20169 yr Author Well it's a shame that the initial response isn't that inspiring but I can't say I'm all that surprised. I was really hoping the development team would build off of the F-27 but it doesn't seem to be the case. I think I'll hold onto my money and wait on the A2A Connie, the Aerosoft CRJ, or the TFDi 717 which shouldn't be too far off. RE Thomason Jr.
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