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If you have any FS9 airports you can convert them reasonably well with FSX2Xplane and Overlay editor. I have converted many Flytampa airports this way (FSX seems not to convert too well), it's best to make a fake FS9 folder to install the Flytampa airports into, then run fsx2xplane to convert .

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Hi,

 

do you know this site ? : 

 

http://apxp.info/ 

 

It lists all the airports by country. It gives the link to the gateway download page of the airport.

The nice addition is that if there are other sceneries for this airport (other than xp gateway), it gives the link too.

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The vast majority of these airports in NA are 2D, which mean they only consist of runways and maybe taxiways. The included XP "gateway" airports are few and far between, also especially in NA since the XP user base is skewed to Europe. And the number of "enhanced" airports available for download is actually quite limited. Basically, this is why people suggest that if you have XP, you need to download the Prefab Airports scenery, as at least this puts a few fake buildings and airports objects etc. at the global airports so they don't look like a remote landing strip in the wilderness. It keeps me happy.

 

This brings up a point as to why commercial 3rd party flight sim vendors tend to shy away from XP. The reason is that there is a large community of XP scenery developers out there. It is a great thing but also makes commercial vendors hesitant to invest time in producing scenery. Why pay for something if you can get it for free? FSX used to be that way, but now the commercial side of things is dominant.

 

 

If you have any FS9 airports you can convert them reasonably well with FSX2Xplane and Overlay editor. I have converted many Flytampa airports this way (FSX seems not to convert too well), it's best to make a fake FS9 folder to install the Flytampa airports into, then run fsx2xplane to convert .

 

 

 

This is a violation of the EULA for those commercial products. FS2Xplane is supposed to be used with permission of the original author only.

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Sedona and Monterey first on my list

 

Yup, all of the airports on that page are linked to the gateway in the second post. When X-Plane 11.00 reaches the release candidate stage all of those airports you downloaded will be included in the release.

 

If you aren't building an airport then I would recommend deleting the ones you downloaded from that site when X-Plane is updated. Because usually many times those airports will get updates, which you won't see if you directly download them.

 

But hey, think of it as getting a preview before X-Plane goes final.

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Hi guys, as one of the main contributors to the Scenery Gateway I would like to clear up some myths spread in this thread:

 

  • You are NOT supposed to download these airports - they will automatically be added to X-Plane for everyone. Download only if you want to work on them (Scenery Design)
  • Most of the detailed airports in the Scenery Gateway are ALREADY in X-Plane. Only the ones added since the last "scenery injection" are missing.
  • If you want to download highly detailed airports (of varying quality), go to an independent site, like x-plane.org. They have thousands of airports. (Some installation of extra object libraries needed)
  • X-Plane user base is not necessarily skewed towards Europe, we guys are just less lazy than the Americans, and therefore we have done more airports (its a crowdsourcing effort!!) :smile:

Happy landings, Jan (litjan)

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  • X-Plane user base is not necessarily skewed towards Europe, we guys are just less lazy than the Americans, and therefore we have done more airports (its a crowdsourcing effort!!) 

 

Well, it's not a question of laziness as much as the sheer size of North America, and the number of smaller airports scattered everywhere. Especially if you're looking for a GA airport near your home, it's just more likely to be missed than one in a small European country. From one source (Quora):

 

As of 2009, the CIA stated that there were approximately 44,000 "... airports or airfields recognizable from the air" around the world, including 15,095 in the US. (If you want a paved runway, there are only 5,194.) The US has about a third of all airports, and the most of any single country

 

 

Coverage of the gateway airports in North America is much better in scenic flying areas like the Pacific Northwest like Oregon, Washington state, British Columbia. I see gateway airports in many places I fly up here in X-Plane. Elsewhere, it can be more random, depending on who lives where, and is contributing airports.

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depending on who lives where

 

This counts for a lot. I've done 60 or so for the Gateway, but aside from a brief period were I was doing gateway airports on commission for FSE members, they're all in British Columbia, Alberta (where I live), and Saskatchewan. At some point my goal is to have *every* airport in Alberta having good 3D scenery. Then I'll move on to Saskatchewan or B.C.  :smile: 

 

I could cover it all quicker, but I've gotten quite picky and precise, and that takes soooo much time. That, and I decided to take on doing a more detailed version of CYEG (Edmonton Intl), which is going to take me months I'm sure. (Ironically, the current CYEG is one of Janov's submissions!)

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This counts for a lot. I've done 60 or so for the Gateway, but aside from a brief period were I was doing gateway airports on commission for FSE members, they're all in British Columbia, Alberta (where I live), and Saskatchewan. At some point my goal is to have *every* airport in Alberta having good 3D scenery. Then I'll move on to Saskatchewan or B.C.  :smile:

 

I could cover it all quicker, but I've gotten quite picky and precise, and that takes soooo much time. That, and I decided to take on doing a more detailed version of CYEG (Edmonton Intl), which is going to take me months I'm sure. (Ironically, the current CYEG is one of Janov's submissions!)

 

Be careful when you do CYEG - there is another guy (or is it you??) doing it, already:

 

http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/forums/topic/105969-cyeg-edmonton-intl-wip-gateway-version/

 

Cheers, Jan

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Be careful when you do CYEG - there is another guy (or is it you??) doing it, already:

 

http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/forums/topic/105969-cyeg-edmonton-intl-wip-gateway-version/

 

Cheers, Jan

 

Wow, Jan, I am *so* glad you posted that link. No it is not me, I've only put about 10 or 11 hours in... I was starting to work my way down Taxiway B, starting at the farthest out, and I'd only just gotten to the FedEx ramp. I'm very glad that it's being done in that level of detail by someone else. I've been very proud of some of my more recent creations, but that guy is taking it to a whole other level.

 

It'll be wonderful to check it out - not just because I live in Edmonton, but because it looks like there's some really impressive stuff to learn and make notes from. I'd be really interested in seeing which some of those facades in use in those shots are. I get entirely too annoyed with searching though all the facades, I wish WED had a viewer for them.

 

I'll be honest though.. one of my reasons for doing CYEG for the Gateway was because I did a 3D model of the terminal, and eventually, maybe, I'd love to actually build the whole airport around it... maybe.. 

 

Edit: By the way Jan, I'm very grateful for not only the work you've done in fleshing out so many large airports, but also in promoting what the Gateway airports are capable of!

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Hi guys, as one of the main contributors to the Scenery Gateway I would like to clear up some myths spread in this thread:

 

 

  • You are NOT supposed to download these airports - they will automatically be added to X-Plane for everyone. Download only if you want to work on them (Scenery Design)
  • Most of the detailed airports in the Scenery Gateway are ALREADY in X-Plane. Only the ones added since the last "scenery injection" are missing.
  • If you want to download highly detailed airports (of varying quality), go to an independent site, like x-plane.org. They have thousands of airports. (Some installation of extra object libraries needed)
  • X-Plane user base is not necessarily skewed towards Europe, we guys are just less lazy than the Americans, and therefore we have done more airports (its a crowdsourcing effort!!) :smile:
Happy landings, Jan (litjan)
Good post which should be posted as a sticky post of its own. Way too many (new) XP users see the gateway as a resource for freeware addon airports which it isn't. I get all my airports from x-plane.org. I don't see the use of the link Richard posted, in fact those gateway links are 'dangerous' because afaik they won't be updated anymore at all if you have downloaded and installed them manually.
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On the map key it says: "User enhanced airports already included in current release." Do we still have to download those? Does anybody know?

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Good post which should be posted as a sticky post of its own. Way too many (new) XP users see the gateway as a resource for freeware addon airports which it isn't. I get all my airports from x-plane.org. I don't see the use of the link Richard posted, in fact those gateway links are 'dangerous' because afaik they won't be updated anymore at all if you have downloaded and installed them manually.

 

I might write up a little "X-Plane Scenery 101" and get one of the mods to post it. A whole lot of misconception floating around, it seems.

 

Wow, Jan, I am *so* glad you posted that link. No it is not me, I've only put about 10 or 11 hours in... I was starting to work my way down Taxiway B, starting at the farthest out, and I'd only just gotten to the FedEx ramp. I'm very glad that it's being done in that level of detail by someone else. I've been very proud of some of my more recent creations, but that guy is taking it to a whole other level.

 

It'll be wonderful to check it out - not just because I live in Edmonton, but because it looks like there's some really impressive stuff to learn and make notes from. I'd be really interested in seeing which some of those facades in use in those shots are. I get entirely too annoyed with searching though all the facades, I wish WED had a viewer for them.

 

I'll be honest though.. one of my reasons for doing CYEG for the Gateway was because I did a 3D model of the terminal, and eventually, maybe, I'd love to actually build the whole airport around it... maybe.. 

 

Edit: By the way Jan, I'm very grateful for not only the work you've done in fleshing out so many large airports, but also in promoting what the Gateway airports are capable of!

 

Yeah, this is one of the drawbacks of the current system - it is easy to "double" on one airport - but there is not really a way around that...EXCEPT to announce a project in a well-frequented scenery builder forum. Then again, someone might just loose interest and quit working on an airport, and then everyone else would be refraining from starting on it... I wish there was a way to "claim" an airport - but that claim would have to autoclear after 3 months, or so.

 

Jan

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On the map key it says: "User enhanced airports already included in current release." Do we still have to download those? Does anybody know?

 

 

Read Janov's post: a regular user should not download ANY of the airports. All gateway airports either are already in XP (so why would you download those manually?!?) or they will be added automatically in the near future. Downloading and installing airports from the gateway will even prevent future updates! So a regular user should forget about the gateway and look elsewhere for freeware airport addons if they miss a specific one. I myself use x-plane.org for this. A lot of airports over there have payware quality (though most require additional freeware libraries but they only have to be installed once).

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This is all news to me.  I only brought up that link because someone elsewhere recommended it as a great place to find airports to add to XP, so I didn't intend to steer people wrong.  I do however, understand it's purpose for scenery building.  I honestly don't remember if I did download anything directly from there, and I would typically go to this page to see the status of the build and then hop over to the org for the downloads.

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Does manually installing a gateway airport (separate folder in custom scenery folder) then prevent that airport from updating in your global airports folder or is it that you won't see the updated gateway airport because the one you downloaded and installed manually was placed in a higher priority?  For example once you learn a gateway airport has been added to release, you would delete the manually downloaded version and the released version would already be there ready to go next time you started XP? 

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Ryan, correct, it would be there when you delete the manually downloaded version (or if you placed it at a lower priority). But as Janov said, in theory gateway airports are not supposed to be downloaded, since after they have been approved they will be added to a next X-Plane release.

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I might write up a little "X-Plane Scenery 101" and get one of the mods to post it. A whole lot of misconception floating around, it seems.

 

 

Hi Janov,

 

this is a great idea. Thank you! Some guys here at avsim deserve the title "X-Plane MVP". You are one of them.

 

Kind regards from bavaria :smile:

Tom

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Right, so misconception number 1 should be that you are not getting the gateway updates as LR releases them because you have manually downloaded an airport before release.  You just have to be cognizant that when LR officially releases the airport, you need to go delete the manually installed one.  I mean, if LR didn't want you to download these airports before they are complete/approved they wouldn't have a big green download button next to them, right?  

 

There are many gateway airports that don't exist at the org and just because it isn't "moderator-approved" doesn't mean the current version won't be moderator-approved, they may have just not reviewed it yet.  I don't think we should discourage responsible use of the system for users that want 3D objects at airports now.  For example, I label these unapproved gateway airports as "ICAO - Gateway Unapproved" in my custom scenery folder so I know to check every so often.

 

I'm by no means an expert and if Janov recommends this not be done then I'll probably take his advice!  So I eagerly await his write-up.

 

From the gateway website:

X-Plane Users

On this web site you can find and download scenery submissions made by our artists and evaluated by a moderator. You can download any approved airport, but only moderator-recommended airports will be included in X-Plane updates.

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Read Janov's post: a regular user should not download ANY of the airports. All gateway airports either are already in XP (so why would you download those manually?!?) or they will be added automatically in the near future. Downloading and installing airports from the gateway will even prevent future updates! So a regular user should forget about the gateway and look elsewhere for freeware airport addons if they miss a specific one. I myself use x-plane.org for this. A lot of airports over there have payware quality (though most require additional freeware libraries but they only have to be installed once).

Great, thanks for clearing this up! So basically all is or will be included automatically in X-Plane. But do airports sometimes make it from x-plane.org to the gateway?

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