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Black Marble worldwide nightlighting system is coming

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https://forums.chrisbelldesigns.com/topic/207-black-marble/

This is looking fantastic to me.

With Black Marble Base the default roads system will get way better en a more real looking nightlighting. And you can control and change the way the lighting looks.

As I understand it the Black Marble Vector package replaces the default roads system with all roads from the whole world at their correct place.

You can add Black Marble bridges ( all bridges in the world ) and Black Marble Traffic ( moving cars with realistic configurable lighting ).

All packages are now in Pre Order at -25%.

I have all Night Environment packages for Europe so I know how good Chris' work is.

 

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No, Blue Marble photo scenery from the whole planet ( day and night ) at 500 Mp.

This is looking nice from 35000 ft and up.

Black Marble is no photo scenery. If you want great looking nightlighting on top of photo scenery there is Night Environment. 

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BM looks like that on a normal underground ( default / FTX etc)

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So how does black marble vector and ftx vector interact? That's my question. Otherwise it looks very nice but the price is also high. So it better be good :-)

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Ill agree his night environment was fantastic for p3d v3x... but my "theres something fishy" radar has gone off.  Whats the catch here ???

Is it v4 compatible.??? 

 

Black Marble is now available for Pre-Order  from our Shop
with a 25% introductory discount!!!

Black Marble Base $29.99 USD $39.99 USD

Black Marble Vector Pack $44.99 USD $59.99 USD

Black Marble 3D Bridge Pack $22.49 USD $29.99 USD

Black Marble Traffic Pack $22.49 USD $29.99 USD 

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The price is the same. But he is selling it per platform. If you buy for v4 and you also want to buy for v3, he will give you 50% off. Play around a bit in his shop. You can choose to buy v3 and you will see that v4 will give you a discount.

Don't confuse Blue Marble with Black Marble. Black Marble is like Night Environment but for the whole world. There is a nice explanation on his forum about Black Marble Base,Vector, Traffic and Bridges. 

https://forums.chrisbelldesigns.com/topic/207-black-marble/?do=findComment&comment=3194

23 minutes ago, tooting said:

PREPAR3D $22.50 $44.99

PREPAR3D v4 $44.99

Why is v4 twice as much as v3 ??  for the products...  

Whats the difference between Vector, Base, and next generation

my "fishy, this sounds dodgy" radar is never wrong..  still you can for support now too :angry::angry:

https://shop.chrisbelldesigns.com/shop/product/27-base/

 

 

 

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I bought the UK package back in the day of FSX and found it to be a bit of an fps killer. Also the price for individual countries was rather high, meaning that if you flew regularly around say Europe it would cost a few hundred Pounds sterling to just replace road lighting.

So not for me I'm afraid, but I'm sure others will love the package and buy it.

 

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15 minutes ago, ideoplastic said:

I bought the UK package back in the day of FSX and found it to be a bit of an fps killer. Also the price for individual countries was rather high, meaning that if you flew regularly around say Europe it would cost a few hundred Pounds sterling to just replace road lighting.

So not for me I'm afraid, but I'm sure others will love the package and buy it.

 

It is no fps killer if you set :

- AG range to Low

- AG buildings/trees to Sparse or Off

- LOD radius to Lowest

- AA a notch lower

- Shadows off

- Water to Low

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1 hour ago, swiesma said:

So how does black marble vector and ftx vector interact?

they don't interact!
we update Sim native data files, not third party!
you can disable 3rd party roads and use Sim native with Black Marble,
more info about our Vector data and file structure can be found here
https://forums.chrisbelldesigns.com/topic/207-black-marble/?do=findComment&comment=1864

 

 

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34 minutes ago, GSalden said:

It is no fps killer if you set :

- AG range to Low

- AG buildings/trees to Sparse or Off

- LOD radius to Lowest

- AA a notch lower

- Shadows off

- Water to Low

Not being funny, but what is the point if you have to make all these sacrifices? Yes you may not see half of that at night

 

It looks good but if I have to do this i wont be buying it 

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3 minutes ago, kand said:

Not being funny, but what is the point if you have to make all these sacrifices? Yes you may not see half of that at night

 

It looks good but if I have to do this i wont be buying it 

If you have to do all that for Black Marble then forget it.

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8 minutes ago, kand said:

Not being funny, but what is the point if you have to make all these sacrifices? Yes you may not see half of that at night

 

It looks good but if I have to do this i wont be buying it 

4 minutes ago, B777ER said:

If you have to do all that for Black Marble then forget it.

I think that settings was for Night Environment NOT the Black Marble we are discussing here. 

 

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3 minutes ago, TrentXWB said:

I think that settings was for Night Environment NOT the Black Marble we are discussing here. 

 

that is correct Trent!


with NE and old FSX (RIP) we also had to deal with limited VAS and much lower hardware at the time,
there was no way you could run a packed daytime scenery then add NE on top, there is an education curve simmer must go through in order to understand we filled up the night scenery as much as other filled up daytime scenery with third party addons, if your cup is full you cant just keep purring on top expecting your cup to contain it all unless you make room for it

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Thanks @Chris Bell for the answer. Will buy it as soon as I am home from Santorini. Will fly in a 737 classic tonight for the first time. Let's see how that goes ;-)

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53 minutes ago, B777ER said:

If you have to do all that for Black Marble then forget it.

 not in p3d v4 you wouldnt as theres the OOM issues.

Ill admit it im tempted. The night environment for the UK was brillant.  Expensive... but brilliant.

 

I just dont like the pay for support.  Thats below the belt in my opinion   

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41 minutes ago, tooting said:

 I just dont like the pay for support.  Thats below the belt in my opinion   

we don't think it is below the belt...
we could easily embed this in retail price and you wont have the option to choose!

we do this for all our titles as a way of allowing cost to be minimal for those who choose,
when you add our no TAX policy and the fact that we charge in US $ you will notice our prices are actually very competitive and fairly discounted compared to other vendors schema,

for example if we were European based company we must embed this in price to comply with EU regulation!
which makes it against the law to sale a software products without minimum 2 year support;
so thats always embedded in the price in those shops without the option to choose!

our support is not only its not embedded...
you also get up to 50% discount if you do opt to purchase our Support services at the time you place your order!

now to the merits of our Tech Support, Live Update and Patching services,
don't confuse setup support with on going development support and patching!

we maintain a live update server you can connect from within our client;
we can and will deliver updates as needed through our server for immediate updates,
as part of our support agreement we also maintain your files for you available with the latest build from 2 mirror sites as well as our ticketing system,
our premium support also covers remote desktop and or Skype voice or video as needed; technical advice and much more with priority care!

this may not be for everyone and this is why its an option you can select,
yet for some people this is a valuable service especially when you're starting and need advice and support from a reliable source you can trust!

 

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Out of curiosity, show of hands...
How many of you siting in this particular moment with handful of software you don’t have updates or proper installer for v4 or even previous builds?
you prefer this “favor” attitude and uncertainty with scheduling months ahead (still with a maybe at the end!) when you need your updates?

or prefer the fact that you can simply expect these to be on time because you’re paying for that?

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2 hours ago, kurtb said:

want to see it first

Agreed.

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1 hour ago, kand said:

Not being funny, but what is the point if you have to make all these sacrifices? Yes you may not see half of that at night

 

It looks good but if I have to do this i wont be buying it 

You don't see any of this at night. What sacrifice you need to make then ?

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