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Seems that AVG did appalling badly in Feb's virus Bullitin Report.http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/106071.jpgOut of 28 products tested, only 4 passed with 100% detection rate, as you can see from the above table, AVG did badly, so please people, if you are using AVG consider changing to a more secure system.Not only will it protect yourself better, but will stop the spread of viruses and make everyone who you have in your address books lives easier.I post this here as I think that the majority of people only visit this "main" forum.Dan.

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yep,I can confirm how bad AVG is. Last week I set-up a DSL connection for some friends of mine. Until now they only had a modem connection, and were using AVG, but not regularly updating it (Some people never learn...), as they thought they were safe "cos we only go online twice a week" (!) :) Imagine my dismay, as I was checking the system after setting the DSL stuff up, as I saw that the computer was badly infected with all kinds of horrible things. Over 280 spyware progs, and 27 viruses, over 20 of them Trojan horses. The AVG program found all but 4 of the viruses admittedly, but couldn't kill them, not even manually! I ended up cleaning the computer with a test version of NOD32, which found all the viruses, including 4 that AVG missed, and killed them all too. I got rid of the spyware with the MS spyware program and webroot spysweeper.I used to use AVG a long time ago, but stopped using it as I noticed over a period of time how insecure it is, but looking at the results of the latests tests, they seem to have got worse instead of better!BestGrahame (EDHL)

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Most tests are not conducted with out of date pattern files. I would be very surprised if that number reflects installations that were out of date. Kind of nullifies the findings if that were the case.

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I had Norton, but removed it (THAT took a lot of work!) and noticed a definite improvement in FS performance as Norton gets its claws into everything. Switched to AVG. What is everyone's recommendation for a good AV without the performance hit that Norton seems to have?? Mike

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"What is everyone's recommendation for a good AV without the performance hit that Norton seems to have??"One word, NOD32, extremely fast and effective program, with 100% detection record, and a VERY light footprint, i.e. no performance hit.Dan.

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I had a horrible time when I used Avg for about 3 years-it missed stuff all the time, and sometimes would detect something but say it couldn't do anything about it.I've been using Norton now for a year and a half and haven't had one problem. If that results in losing a couple frames per second-I'll take it.http://mywebpages.comcast.net/geofa/pages/rxp-pilot.jpg

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I'll go for NOD32 too! I have it running on 3 computers at home: fast, safe and NO performance loss at all, I always leave it running, even when using FS. It's the best there is out there (no, I have NO connection to Eset software (the makers of NOD32) , except as a very satisfied customer!)BestGrahame (EDHL)

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Used to think AVG was quite good till I tried F-SECURE and it found a few hidden virus files.F-SECURE is also excellent for Flight Sim because you are given the option to "unload" all their active files while you sim, then simply reload afterwards (takes seconds).F-SECURE also offer a 6 month demo file if you register. Well worth checking out.http://www.f-secure.com/download-purchase/CheersAdamAdam Moorewww.simreview.co.ukWin XP - ARIA 3200PCPrescott 3.20 GHz - 2GB RAMAsus ATi Radeon X800 Pro TD 256MB19" CRT 1600x1200 @ 100hzAudiophile 24/96 AudioCurrently Testing: FSD Piaggio P-180 Avanti

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I Am running Softwin BitDefender Professional 8.0. Very, very good software.

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Just as a sidenote if you find that many malware on a PC the only way to make the system secure would be a complete reformat. Of if there is no sensitive information on the computer at all you might stick with it. But you cannot clean a compromised system by using a virus scanner. A fully compromised system cannot be trusted. Even virus scanners must at some level rely on the system to not lie to them. If they ask whether a particular file is present, the attacker may simply have a tool in place that lies about it. If you can guarantee that the only thing that compromised the system was a particular virus or worm and you know that this virus has no backdoors associated with it, and the vulnerability used by the virus was not available remotely, then a virus scanner can be used to clean the system.Alex

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So you abandoned a security product for another one that you knew was worse simply because it made FS go a bit faster?Mind I don't consider Norton good, it's another one of the Bad AV Products.I use Kaspersky myself. Excellent performance and one of the best scan engines out there.

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Hi GuysGiven the scepticism regarding AVG, would it possible to get some feedback about other virus checkers around (free or payware) - NOD32 seems popular, also, Kaspersky seems to get good reviews. It all seems a bit of a minefield regarding a potential purchase - maybe that's why AVG's so popular...ThanksGary

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This kind of "poll" makes its appearance at least once a year. And everytime, AVG is portrayed like a sieve in comparison to the other software on the list. And everytime, someone has to publish it and demonstrate to the world that AVG sucks, blah, blah, blah and discourage its usage.Notice seems not to be mentioned, however of the fact that AVG is the _only_ software on the portion of the list quoted that has a _FREE_ edition! And Grisoft continues to issue frequent updates and upgrades both in the free version and the commercial edition. And they've been doing this for the past few years in spite of their less-than-glowing performances that appear on these lists. Obviously, they must not take these reports very seriously.And there are a lot of users, myself included, who have been using this free edition for years without any problems or complications and the report holds no special meaning for us either. There are also claims from around the world about individuals having their PC security compromised while supposedly behind the absolute best software available, including some in this forum; losing faith with so-and-so's software and opting for another 'silver bullet'.Less attention should be paid to "numbers" and more attention placed upon one's surfing habits and integration of other complimentary software for protection.......there isn't a single product out there....not one; that can perform to the expectations of some PC owners......and that includes those programs that had the fewest "misses" in the heralded virus Bulletin Report.

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Avast is also free. Is it better or worse than AVG?Really don't feel like paying for an anti-virus program. Too many coorporations take advantage of people's paranoia. It may be a conspiracy for all I know.If you use a firewall, download all the Windows Updates, steer way clear of M$ Lookout Express and Internet Exploder, and don't download files you don't trust you're fairly safe even with a free anti-virus program. IMO (haven't had a single virus infect my computer in ~5 years).

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"And there are a lot of users, myself included, who have been using this free edition for years without any problems or complications and the report holds no special meaning for us either."Yes, AVG has a free version, but its free for a reason, how do you know it is working fine?.Bottom line is I also used to use AVG, but found that on 3 occasions I became infected due to AVG's lax performance.Stick your head in the sand if you like, fact is AVG is about as much good as having no virus protection at all, and its not just yourself you are putting at risk, but by using poor software you are just helping the propergation of viruses and the like, and putting everyone else at risk too."Less attention should be paid to "numbers" and more attention placed upon one's surfing habits and integration of other complimentary software for protection.......there isn't a single product out there....not one; that can perform to the expectations of some PC owners......and that includes those programs that had the fewest "misses" in the heralded virus Bulletin Report."I do agree with you to a point, BUT, there are many, many forms of virus/malware out there that require NO input from the user, in fact just recently a fairly well known freeware groups site was giving out a nasty little virus that automatically downloaded itself to your PC, and if you are unlucky enough to have AVG you would not have known a thing about it.Dan.

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"It may be a conspiracy for all I know."What virus companies making viruses to increase sales?, nah, it could never happen.............or could it :-lolDan.

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Just because something is in print does not mean it is factual. And being on the web.... I would cut the validity by 50% more. Statistics can always be skewed to make one product look good and one look bad.I don't trust any report that can't even spell Norton. I used NAV for years, was happy with the results but I could see it did seem to load down my system after getting into flightsimming. Now I have one PC with AVG for several months - happy with the results but I will try a few of the others suggested on one of my other machines.Personally I don't believe there is one "perfect" anti-virus.

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I'm using the Czech Rep produced AVAST! free edition anti-virus. So far so good! I used to use Norton's but when Norton said my wife and I had to buy separate expensive licenses each year for each of our two pc's, I said goodby forever. What a hassel to Uninstall. No more Norton's for me.So who out there makes Anti-virus software that's usable from more than one PC at the same IP? Larry

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<>Actually, on my browser at least, only 10 names appeared, none of which showed a 100% detection rate. clicking on the jpg link brought up the same 10 name table.Regards,Jim

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The people that I work with who write complex software programs tell me that what makes Norton slow things down a bit, is what makes it extremely good at protecting your system from viruses, etc.. I guess an analogy would be like removing all the safety mechanisms from an aircraft in hopes that it would fly faster and farther on less fuel. Frankly, I would rather have the protection and lose 0.5 frames per second. By the way, I just shut off Norton virus Protect when I fly, and just leave the Firewall on.

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"So you abandoned a security product for another one that you knew was worse simply because it made FS go a bit faster?" Why do you always preface a comment with an insult??? I am really tired of this attitude JW. I removed Norton for the reason I stated. I installed AVG because, AT THE TIME, it seemed a reasonable option. Now, that I have more data, (thanks to the people here) I will obviously switch. Mike

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Which OS is this table for? Grisoft is flying both the ICSA and virus Bulletin 100% logo for Feb 2005 on its site, so there appears to be more to this story.I've sent a link to this thread to Grisoft for comment as well.RegardsBob ScottATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-V L-300

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