At this point I'm willing to give Honeycomb the benefit of the doubt. Like everyone else I'm not happy about the delays, but if the delays mean they are willing to take the time (and absorb the associated costs) necessary to get things right, I can accept and respect that. Honeycomb certainly understands that the initial independent reviews will be the key to the success of the product, so they had better 'be good'. If the yoke mount is poor, or the 'feel' of the system is not up to expectations, it will be quickly known. You can't fool simmers about a product for very long, and Honeycomb knows that. So I have a cautious but positive outlook at this point in time. But clearly the proof will be in the flying.

Al

Edited December 20, 20187 yr by ark

Based early fall 2017 news releases, this was on my Christmas list for last year to replace my Saitek Pro Cessna Yoke..........

 

Edited December 21, 20187 yr by fppilot

4 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Still no pictures or video of the mysterious throttle quadrant.

From a couple of months ago, I finally decided to finish the wait for the Honeycomb yoke and I made the purchase of a new one from another manufacturer.

However, I am still waiting for the mysterious throttle quadrant Bravo, which as mentioned, only exists as an urban legend and in pictures.

9 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

If they’re going to use two clamps why the need to still stick something to the desk? Was it my imagination or did I see the base move after he pushed it down.

I'm not saying I can see how that 'nano-suction' pad works, but assuming it does work it puts the anchor point a lot further back from the table edge. This should prevent (or reduce) tipping and sliding. The Yoko suffers from this with the standard table-edge clamp, since it has quite a firm action.

On 9/17/2018 at 2:57 PM, TechguyMaxC said:

I'm catching up on old issues of PC Pilot, currently reading the Mar-Apr 2017 issue and on page 9 there's a nice little blurb about this fantastic yoke. Says they expect units to ship in the Summer!

 

Of 2017.

 

😂

 

Oh flight sim add-on industry, never change!

5 gets you 10 we are still having this conversation next Xmas.... 2019.

 

On 12/21/2018 at 3:16 AM, polosim said:

From a couple of months ago, I finally decided to finish the wait for the Honeycomb yoke and I made the purchase of a new one from another manufacturer.

However, I am still waiting for the mysterious throttle quadrant Bravo, which as mentioned, only exists as an urban legend and in pictures.

Still complete with typo no doubt.

What IS an " ARP " ?

Lol.

Edited December 27, 20187 yr by Gabe777

Hi Ray, 

I just finished reading all the articles on the Alpha Honeycomb Yoke, and several days ago, I called the factory in Southern Ca, and was told they are still predicting the release of their Yoke early summer 2019,   I am waiting for a call from one of the representatives.   This looks like a yoke that won't break the bank, I started looking for the Saitek Cessna Yoke, and it appears no longer in production, which led me to this yoke, have you heard anymore about its progress?   

4 hours ago, Moonpilot said:

Hi Ray, 

I just finished reading all the articles on the Alpha Honeycomb Yoke, and several days ago, I called the factory in Southern Ca, and was told they are still predicting the release of their Yoke early summer 2019,   I am waiting for a call from one of the representatives.   This looks like a yoke that won't break the bank, I started looking for the Saitek Cessna Yoke, and it appears no longer in production, which led me to this yoke, have you heard anymore about its progress?   

Moonpilot, it's back to early summer now? To be honest I'm losing interest in this yoke mainly because it doesn't seem to be a major improvement on the Saitek. Still using pots, not Hall-effect, a determination to stick to $200 when the market is screaming out for something better around the $400-$500 mark which is still half the price of the Yoko.

No, I've heard nothing more other than press releases which I have already linked to.

Instead, I'm looking at Fulcrum, a British-made yoke I saw at a flight sim show at Cosford, England in October. It was a 3D printed one but still very impressive. He needs to get the design right before committing to production.

The designer has engineering and electrical knowledge plus an interest in flight sim which always helps. This yoke will be hall-effect throughout and an anticipated price of 400UKP. That makes it my number 1 candidate as things stand. He plans to add toggle buttons to the front panel for all those commands we need in P3D / FSX.

 

...and it's still ugly!

Was looking forward to the Throttle myself.  One of my Saiteks is starting to get glitchy again, so hope to replace sometime soon.  I have gone through about 5 Saitek quads over the last 5 years or so.

Waiting for the Fulcrum myself, the concept, design and price are looking good. Bye-bye Honeycomb !!!

7 hours ago, Freo said:

Waiting for the Fulcrum myself, the concept, design and price are looking good. Bye-bye Honeycomb !!!

I hope your glee isn't premature, that has a long way to go. What about the Diagma yoke? It's available and looks pretty good.

17 minutes ago, MarkDH said:

I hope your glee isn't premature, that has a long way to go. What about the Diagma yoke? It's available and looks pretty good.

Have you been in touch with Chris about its progress?

LATER: Just checked the Diagma. Just 2 toggle switches and 2 buttons. Nowhere near enough.

Edited January 21, 20197 yr by Ray Proudfoot

3 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Have you been in touch with Chris about its progress?

LATER: Just checked the Diagma. Just 2 toggle switches and 2 buttons. Nowhere near enough.

I was going by the fact that someone here has one and has posted pics. I did find this video review of the Diagma that suggests it too is sailing close to the wind in terms of production and quality. I think this is inevitable when the small guy is trying to compete with Chinese mega-manufacturing. I don't know if he discovered what the problem was, I didn't watch to the end. Maybe it's just the soldering on to the Bodnar board, or maybe the pots are super-cheap. One of these options would be less concerning than the other :)

And yes, if buttons are important then it's a little a little bit spartan in that regard. For me, the mechanical aspects are key.

 

I watched the video to the end. Quite a damning assessment. He never mentioned if the company responded to his review. The only positive aspect was they refunded his money. I think we can discount that yoke as a possible contender.

For these yokes that have few buttons what do you use for the various commands P3D needs? As much as the Saitek is bargain basement quality it does a decent job of getting most aspects right.