Hi,I am using the MS Sidewinder FF with FS-Force and a lot of button programming via FSUIPC.Regards,Hugo

I second Bob Scotts brief explanation of PFC products, and I have been a user for about 4 years without any problems what soever. The customer support is great if you ever do need it.Like any well oiled machine, you need to replace the springs ever so often. I change mine every six months due to high usage, which is ok.http://groups.msn.com/DehavillandDash8Q400...hoto&PhotoID=86The only downside is the yoke takes away for Helo and combat operations, but a joystick replacement does the job wellYou can visit the PFC website at www.flypfc.com for more info.

HiI personally use the keyboard and at the mo and i'm very happy using it although sometimes it can be frustrating with certain aircraft because they will feel a bit unresponsive and slow i will get a joystick someday i seen one in a computer shop near me that was quite cheap but when i went back a couple of days later it had been sold i think it was a logitech and it had a throttle i was so diapointed it was

25 pounds sounds expensive to me for a cheap joystick, though perhaps in line for Logitech (paying for the "name"). I use and am happy with Ch Yoke and pedals ($204 total free shipping for both from amazon). For trips when I fly, I picked up a cheapo joystick from Best Buy for $19.99 with 8 way hat and throttle and 6 more buttons that works fine for me as well.Thomas[a href=http://www.flyingscool.com/FC_StartJava.html] http://www.flyingscool.com/images/Signature.jpg [/a]I like using VC's :-)

Hi,I went to the PFC website and I was very impressed/excited by their products. But as soon as I saw the price list, I lost my enthusiasm. To get the jetliner yoke, the rudder pedals, and the throt quad, it would cost me over $2000 US dollars. Surely the difference between CH and PFC isn't $1800 US bucks. Surely CH could improve on their products while maintaining affordable prices? Tristan

I'm using a CH Flightstick :) 100% reliable since I got it in November 2000 :DBefore then I was using much cheaper joysticks ..... I broke all five :(. Cheap joysticks aren't worth the hassle ... most of them are rubbish.I control the rudder using the cursor keys :-lol"If the wings are traveling faster than the fuselage, it's probably a helicopter - and therefore, unsafe." http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v615/DarrenA300/unsure.gif

>Surely the difference between CH and PFC isn't $1800 US bucks. Surely it is. High quality, for those who value it, doesn't usually come cheap. The PFC jetliner floor column yoke is all-metal, heavy duty construction, tight tolerances, high-quality bearings, the list goes on. It feels like an airplane yoke...the CH feels like a plastic gaming device...which it is, and there's no shame in that.It's the same with lots of other equipment. My Nikon 70-200mm camera lense (an f2.8 ED AF-S VR) at $1600 seems pretty pricey alongside the $350 Nikon 80-200mm lense (F3.5-4.5 AF), but not to someone who takes their photography seriously. Both will take a nice pic, given enough time and light. But for a quick, perfectly-focused shot in dim light from a moving vehicle, the extra $1250 invested in a fast lense with a lightning-fast ultrasonic autofocus motor and vibration reduction makes all the difference in the world. I don't expect the average weekend happy-snapper to understand, but a skilled photographer will.Whether the extra quality is worth paying the nonlinear leap in price is a personal decision.CheersBob ScottATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-V L-300Santiago de Chile

I use an 8 year old Saitek Cyborg 3-D joystick that has given continuous and completely trouble-free service on nearly a daily basis. I've tried pc yokes, pedals and throttle setups at the flight school where I teach but for me the Saitek joystick with the twist handle provides excellent control and the physical movements of manipulating the stick translate very very well to real world flying. (The only thing that is better is the 10 year old Frasca 131 simulator the school uses.) I've discovered a lot about sound, smooth flying technique just by thoughtful use of the joystick. And at $40 it's incredibly inexpensive compared to other pc flight controls.

I agree with Bob, it costs to get High quality. Attached is a picture of my setup which is all PFC. I have had the yoke and rudder pedals for four years and the jet console for one and a half years. Note the throttles are duplicate of the 737NG, with reverser levers, TOGA and A/T disconnect, spoiler and flap levers. I have also modified the rudder pedals to include proportional braking. I have had no problems at all. The throttles can be interchanged with other PFC throttle units.The MCP is the Aerosoft 747MCP.Tom

HelloSaitek have a set of rudder pedals under developement according to their forum.