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Does anyone know when UTL will release an update that will have current liveries and current parking spots at airports? Thanks

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3 hours ago, Zimmerbz said:

Does anyone know when UTL will release an update that will have current liveries and current parking spots at airports? Thanks

No updated parking spots. UTL doesn't install afcad's. As for liveries most are updated except some regionals. I fly mostly in US so not sure about others outside US.

 

Here is the latest from Jeff Main at UTL

Product Support for UTLive Licensed Users must log in. http://ultimatetraffic.flight1.net/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=15469&title=update-10-11-17

UPDATE 10.11.17
    Posted: 11-October-2017 at 12:09pm
Hi All,

Wanted to give an update on the update and request some testing help.

I have been trying diligently to track down the crash on some users systems when running a prepar3d version, and I need some extra testers who are experiencing this issue.  Currently we can not find any issue in the initialization and startup of utl, just when first event from simconnect is fired.  I need to verify this with other users experiencing this problem.

I am also keeping two separate code sets of the user interface currently.  I have made as many of the requested changes as possible in one set, and current release in my testing set.  I want to verify a prepar3d fix before blending the two together.  While it is still apart, any last feature requests can be handled more easily.  Here is the chance to get your desire feature in!

If you would like to help test the crash issue and new features, directly contact me with the following information, I will email links to the testing files for crash testers tomorrow, and new user interface updates next tuesday.

Email following...
1.  Name, country you are from and timezone
2.  What Flight Simulators do you use utLive with?
3.  Basic computer specs.
4.  Are you experiencing the crash on prepar3d?
5.  What one feature do you want fixed or added (no guarantees on these, just a possible)...

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Sadly I am one of those who paid for this program, as for the update, to quote The Eagles " When Hell Freezes Over". I will never again buy a soft release. If your thinking of buying be forwarned.

Sorry to be so negative but just read the heartache posts on their forum

 

Nelson Lyon

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Stop being negative, the developer is working full time with the project.

I am part of UTL beta team and we just received version 1.28, we are all testing it.

Regards,

Simbol

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8 minutes ago, simbol said:

Stop being negative, the developer is working full time with the project.

I am part of UTL beta team and we just received version 1.28, we are all testing it.

Regards,

Simbol

No one should buy this software right now. That's a perfectly fair warning.

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You bought it knowing it was a beta..

Lots of users including me are using it without issues, just because you have problems it doesn't mean the product is bad or that everyone else will have a bad experience as you do.

Now the developer reached out to ask people what problems they have and what features they would like fixed first, have you contacted him? 

Simbol 

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I have no issues with UTL except for a lot of my planes in the US have dated liveries.  United is a perfect example.  They have the current livery in there but also the tulip and battleship.  I'm not sure why they have all 3 and I'm not sure how to remove the old ones.  

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19 minutes ago, Chapstick said:

No one should buy this software right now. That's a perfectly fair warning.

Sorry to hear you've had issues. Bought it several months ago and have had zero problems and lots of very good traffic.  I recommend the program all the time.  In fact, I also have the traffic 3d sounds addon from Simmarket which was made just for UTL, which makes it even better.

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16 minutes ago, simbol said:

You bought it knowing it was a beta..

Lots of users including me are using it without issues, just because you have problems it doesn't mean the product is bad or that everyone else will have a bad experience as you do.

Now the developer reached out to ask people what problems they have and what features they would like fixed first, have you contacted him? 

Simbol 

And just because you're on the beta team and have had a good experience doesn't mean everyone else will. I'm done talking about this.

To everyone else: UTL hasn't had a patch in 3 months and the last patch was a significant regression. Wait until the next patch to see if it's worth buying.

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I'd sure like to get this but no more beta purchases for me. Just going to have to suck it up and wait it out.

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Well, I bought it and have had NO problems of any kind.

However anyone who buys an announced beta and THEN complains is way off base. It is to be expected that a beta MAY have serious issues, up to and including fouling up your system. That's the choice you make.

Vic

 

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I think with something like the tfdi 717, buying in beta is ok as the devs communicate regularly and are obviously serious about the project.

with the oddly-named ut "live", there's little communication, and we've seen the dev disappear before with the ut2 project going quiet for years.

ive given up on ut live for now, back to mytraffic  which is working very well. I'll give ut another try once we have a version that we can be confident won't crash our systems.

if I was advising a buyer now, I'd say wait until you see some real progress towards a stable program, and get my traffic and install via xml method if you want a reliably working traffic program now.

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I have to agree with Chapstick, stay away from this program and save your money. Even when it is officially released I would wait and see what

the general consensus is from the flight sim community. Right now there are very few people running this program with NO problems. For those

that are consider your selves lucky but if you look at all the posts in the forum there are far more unhappy simmers than happy ones. There are just too many

things wrong at the moment and I hope they eventually get it sorted. As for Simbol, I just looked at their forum. No mention of the beta your talking about. It would

be nice to let the people reading the UTL forum know what progress is happening. Nothing at all from the developer. PROATC at least lets it's readers know when a new bets has been sent to the beta team keeping them informed.

 

Nels

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 I too bought this the day it became available as I wanted to try it out. It has worked without issue (over 4 or 5 various installs) with injecting the traffic,  the traffic board and other stuff I have no interest in and could care less if it works at all. It isn't perfect or without it's faults but it does work. From all of the support that I've tried to assist with on their forums I'm fairly sure in saying to those that it just doesn't work for what ever reason is that it's not the software. 

 I'd have to disagree with Nels comment above and say that it does work for the vast majority of users. AKA the silent majority, like most things we see these days is that the masses don't come online to boast or help each other when you when they are happy about a product and it is working well, but they sure do when it isn't.  

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It did not work for me and I am glad I could get a refund eventhough I was a little over the 30 days. Traffic reset every time you opened a menu or something made the loading bar appear. That eventually lead to not having much traffic enroute for me.

All the Ai planes seemed to fly at the same altitude as it is the case with default traffic leading to a lot of congestion if when the traffic did work.

planes sit on airports for days on end, eventhough they were scheduled to take off. And every once in a while UTL would crash in a manner that no sim connect application would function anymore.

Also the config program would be switching back and forward from saying that it would configure FSX instead of P3D for me. Which is quite odd as FSX has never been installed on my system. May be just a visual bug, may be something deeper. 

There were issues for me, not saying they will be there for you. What made me refund is that this was being a beta with zero contact from the actual dev and no visible progression at all. No (status) updates or anything. And since at least I consider the 45€ or so quite pricey I returned it and have not looked back.

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Funny enough that people complain about a BETA software (obviously in the FS community, this is not yet broadly used...). However, I personally still do not see any reason why I should abandon my UT2 even if UTLive is finally released. Neither here, nor in the UT Forums anyone was basically capable of telling me a single reason what UTLive will do better than UT2. Except maybe the fact that UT2 has a bug in displaying traffic over the ocean. So, I ask the question again: what offers UTLive that UT2 does not offer?

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2 hours ago, Dave_YVR said:

 I'd have to disagree with Nels comment above and say that it does work for the vast majority of users. AKA the silent majority, like most things we see these days is that the masses don't come online to boast or help each other when you when they are happy about a product and it is working well, but they sure do when it isn't.  

+1

And to make another point, Thomas Main(The developer) told us via email that after 1 week of him posting on the oficial forums the debugging procedures announcement he did not receive even one single user willing to test the crash problems, what is the point in complaining if you don't report it people? how you expect developers to address problems that we are not aware of? or unable to debug? everyone can experience different issues due to different systems configurations and variables.

Still today, nobody has reported to him in order to test the crashes.. he made his email address available to all users on his oficial forums, you can clearly contact him and request your problem to be addressed.

In any case, during my Beta tests I discovered that most of the crashing are due to SimConnect issues because people are using older version of the SimConnect libraries designed by dovetail for FSX-SE or old Libraries from FSX and it seems these libraries are being used for PDV4, if you are experiencing problems about crashes, etc. go to your PD3 V4 directory and find the folder \redist\interface. You will find there the correct Simconnect libraries versions that should be used for Prepard3D, install all of them ignoring the Rusian and Japanise version.

Thomas is now aware of this problem, and I suggested he should try to automatise the installation of the correct libraries for all end user in order to avoid the problem from repeating.

Best Regards,
Simbol

 

 

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yep   agree   people  just  want  to  complain  and  not  actually  try  to  solve  the  issues

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10 minutes ago, simbol said:

+1

And to make another point, Thomas Main(The developer) told us via email that after 1 week of him posting on the oficial forums the debugging procedures announcement he did not receive even one single user willing to test the crash problems, what is the point in complaining if you don't report it people? how you expect developers to address problems that we are not aware of? or unable to debug? everyone can experience different issues due to different systems configurations and variables.

Still today, nobody has reported to him in order to test the crashes.. he made his email address available to all users on his oficial forums, you can clearly contact him and request your problem to be addressed.

In any case, during my Beta tests I discovered that most of the crashing are due to SimConnect issues because people are using older version of the SimConnect libraries designed by dovetail for FSX-SE or old Libraries from FSX and it seems these libraries are being used for PDV4, if you are experiencing problems about crashes, etc. go to your PD3 V4 directory and find the folder \redist\interface. You will find there the correct Simconnect libraries versions that should be used for Prepard3D, install all of them ignoring the Rusian and Japanise version.

Thomas is now aware of this problem, and I suggested he should try to automatise the installation of the correct libraries for all end user in order to avoid the problem from repeating.

Best Regards,
Simbol

 

 

You, my friend are the best.  I had this issue after a reinstall of p3d v4.1.  UTL was crashing on startup everytime.  Worked with 4.0.  

 

Thank you

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4 minutes ago, bravoboy37 said:

You, my friend are the best.  I had this issue after a reinstall of p3d v4.1.  UTL was crashing on startup everytime.  Worked with 4.0.  

 

Thank you

I am glad to help, just to confirm is your problem now fixed?

Regards,

Simbol

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1 minute ago, simbol said:

I am glad to help, just to confirm is your problem now fixed?

Regards,

Simbol

Yes it is.  Please note.  I did a clean install of 4.1 and have been adding my addons back in slowly.  I got around to installing utl today and it did not work with multiple attempts.  Your note above fixed it.  It is working now.

I had utl in 4.0 with no issues before.

 

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Just now, bravoboy37 said:

Yes it is.  Please note.  I did a clean install of 4.1 and have been adding my addons back in slowly.  I got around to installing utl today and it did not work with multiple attempts.  Your note above fixed it.  It is working now.

I had utl in 4.0 with no issues before.

 

Perfect, have a nice day and a superb flying experience.

Regards,

Simbol

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Just now, simbol said:

Perfect, have a nice day and a superb flying experience.

Regards,

Simbol

Enjoying your AI lights too by the way!

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Here'e one more report. I bought it immediately after it became available. I'm not caring too much for outdated liveries, I'm mostly flying GA and just don't want to take off from an otherwise empty airport. I have been using it under Prepar3d4.0 and 4.1 and still didn't face any single CTD caused by it. There are two issues: (i) It tends to remain running if you leave Prepar3d irregularly (e.g. by killing it or crashing by another cause). (ii) traffic is reset every time you enter the menu system, which is annoying indeed. Like its predecessor UT2, in has a relatively small performance inpact only.

I use it interchangeably with PSXSeecon traffic, exploiting the same set of AI planes (and Alan's nice traffic 3d sounds).

My only complain is the devleoper disappears into Nirvana from time to time and becomes invisible to mere mortals like me.

Kind regards, Michael

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