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UPDATE from LM over at the Prepar3D Forums

"Microsoft will include a fix for this issue in a Windows 10 update scheduled for release around November 14th. This issue was caused due to a bug introduced in the KB4038788 update. This issue is specific to 32-bit applications which is why Prepar3D v4 was unaffected by this update."

-From Rob McCarthy

Just under a month before we get a fix......Can't believe it's taken MS so long for this fix

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It doesn't take them that long to fix it: it has been fixed already. It just takes that long because the fix is part of the monthly Windows update. 

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1 hour ago, J van E said:

It doesn't take them that long to fix it: it has been fixed already. It just takes that long because the fix is part of the monthly Windows update. 

Have to disagree, problem first surfaced early September, fix or patch was excluded from Creators update and with a now  expected Week 2  November release. Given the vast numbers of Users affected and LM continual liason with MS, I would think a fix should have been available outside of the monthly updates as a priority.

 

 

 

 

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Have to disagree, problem first surfaced early September, fix or patch was excluded from Creators update and with a now  expected Week 2  November release. Given the vast numbers of Users affected and LM continual liason with MS, I would think a fix should have been available outside of the monthly updates as a priority.

I guess you may underestimate who the really important customers for MS are. It's not the home users - it's business customers, large companies with volume contracts. That would be what I would call a vast majority... Everything that affects them has priority over anything else. So, if no major business customer has complained we can be happy if MS fixes this issue still this year.

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Frank

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My personal priority 1 wish is having a fix. Time when the fix will be available for me is secondary. And I am happy to hear that MS is announcing having taken attention to this matter, figured out the problem and being willingness to provide a patch to cure the problem.

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On 10/22/2017 at 2:45 AM, mdata said:

I guess you may underestimate who the really important customers for MS are. It's not the home users - it's business customers, large companies with volume contracts. That would be what I would call a vast majority... Everything that affects them has priority over anything else. So, if no major business customer has complained we can be happy if MS fixes this issue still this year.

Regards
Frank

Unfortunately the issue wasn't just limited to P3D users. The update that caused the issue was wide spread.

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Was a patch released today as expected to fix the issues with P3D caused by windows 10 update 1709?

Curious to hear how it plays with P3D if so.

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42 minutes ago, regis9 said:

Was a patch released today as expected to fix the issues with P3D caused by windows 10 update 1709?

Curious to hear how it plays with P3D if so.

Haven't seen one yet. It's usually on the first Tuesday of the month. Could be wrong though.

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Second Tuesday actually.  My PC was updated about an hour ago.

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I just received the patch.  An hour ago it wasn't there, but now it is.

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New update didn´t bring ANY fixes to this issue!!!!! I just installed it and same issues in FSX!!!! 

 

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Ingo

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On 22/10/2017 at 4:45 AM, mdata said:

I guess you may underestimate who the really important customers for MS are. It's not the home users - it's business customers, large companies with volume contracts. That would be what I would call a vast majority... Everything that affects them has priority over anything else. So, if no major business customer has complained we can be happy if MS fixes this issue still this year.

Regards
Frank

The really important customers, being enterprise, are not using Windows 10. They're still using Windows 7.

 

 

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After de update is everything working 100%. No more strange messages with FSX

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6 minutes ago, Lenny777 said:

The really important customers, being enterprise, are not using Windows 10. They're still using Windows 7.

May still be true for many if not most of the enterprise customers. Bust as luck would have it, the company I am working for (+100k employees) is currently undergoing the Windows 10 migration. And I must say, that in the office area this is going surprisingly well. As for machines with specific software or machines controlling other hardware this is of course more delicate, but possible and of course more pricey.

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Does anyone know the number of the update in question?  I'm seeing quite a few updates in the list.

 

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On 22/10/2017 at 7:43 AM, JustanotherPilot said:

Just under a month before we get a fix......Can't believe it's taken MS so long for this fix

Quite fast actually, consider this, sometimes security engineers discover serious faults with the OS that could allow hackers to take over your PC, they notify MS and it can take them up to 3 to 6 months to release the patch.

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KB4048955 I believe. Don't know if it fixed anything yet, have not started FSX as of yet.

 

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I downloaded  the update KB4048955 ...I fly 4 hrs now from PHNL to NZAA, and I have no problem so far..

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On 10/24/2017 at 11:18 PM, udidwht said:

Unfortunately the issue wasn't just limited to P3D users. The update that caused the issue was wide spread.

You can say that again!  Weird security and other issues with many add-ons.

3 hours ago, Ineust said:

New update didn´t bring ANY fixes to this issue!!!!! I just installed it and same issues in FSX!!!! 

 

Regards 

Ingo

Be sure to delete your FSX.CFG, that may make a difference for you.

I have to say, so far so good.  Issues that I was having with TrackIr, FPS dipping into the teens and loss of communication (SimConnect) between my networked PC's seem to have been resolved.  The sim appears to be running as smooth as it was before.

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Todays Windows update has not fixed the problem. It has eliminated the crash on 100% load but the child window error message is present as you enter the cockpit. Also, when I selected Scenario - Reset, I got about 10 or more Child Window error messages followed by a lock up. Absolutely never had this before that infamous Windows update.

So no, the MS update of today has done nothing to cure 32 bit P3D versions and the program remains highly unstable and as far as I am concerned, unusable. Over on LM’s forum, also very negative reports on this fix. 

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I have to say, it turned all of my sims into a stuttering nightmare. I didn't seem to have any of the issues from the original iteration of 1709 but this update has killed my system for some unknown reason. P3D, XP11, DCS & Falcon BMS all now have issues which seem to be from panning the views with TIR. Guess it's time to start dancing again. :blink:

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1 minute ago, Pivot said:

I have to say, it turned all of my sims into a stuttering nightmare. I didn't seem to have any of the issues from the original iteration of 1709 but this update has killed my system for some unknown reason. P3D, XP11, DCS & Falcon BMS all now have issues which seem to be from panning the views with TIR. Guess it's time to start dancing again. :blink:

Are you running Nvidia's 388.13 drivers in conjunction with a GPU monitoring tool? There's apparently an on-going issue;

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1027519/geforce-drivers/official-388-13-game-ready-whql-display-driver-feedback-thread-released-10-30-17-/post/5234030/#5234030

"-Using power monitoring in GPU monitoring tool causes FPS microstutter"

 

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2 hours ago, Sethos1988 said:

Are you running Nvidia's 388.13 drivers in conjunction with a GPU monitoring tool? There's apparently an on-going issue;

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1027519/geforce-drivers/official-388-13-game-ready-whql-display-driver-feedback-thread-released-10-30-17-/post/5234030/#5234030

"-Using power monitoring in GPU monitoring tool causes FPS microstutter"

 

I don't think I have upgraded to the 388 driver yet but will check after work. I don't have any GPU monitoring app running. All of these were buttery smooth, except for a hiccup here and there with weather apps running in the civi's. Now it almost vibrates when I change my view. I may need to check to assure Windblows didn't make some driver changes of it's own. I noticed it had several updates in the listing. We'll get her back online, even if it requires the o'l format C: command..

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