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I currently have a pretty high end system and run fslabs pretty well in terms of smoothness and frames. I️ get around 15 FPS in cities like Miami but the sim is flyable and smooth.  However, I️ am always looking to improve things.  I watch streams from chewwy and others that seem to run very high settings into dense areas and get 30 + FPS constantly.  For those running fslabs in high density areas, what sliders are you using to get that sweet spot.?  I️ am afraid that if i move more left i will lose visuals.  Or does that chewwy guy or any of the other streamers that run in high setting post their P3d and graphics settings anywhere?  I would like to compare vs. mine. My system is the Gravity GT2 from jetlinesystems. Thanksz

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They use 1080tis for their gpus, that’s why. You have to be willing to compromise on visuals in order to get desired performance. 

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10 minutes ago, Zimmerbz said:

1080ti as in the graphics card? 

Affirmative.

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As I’m sure you are aware, the FSL A320 is heavy on resources. Check out the settings post by Rob Ainscough for some pointers. I have always found his suggestions to be a great place to start tweaking your own. I will leave a link to Rob’s post below. Hope it helps.

 

http://p3dwiki.com/graphics.html

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8 hours ago, N405GJ said:

As I’m sure you are aware, the FSL A320 is heavy on resources. Check out the settings post by Rob Ainscough for some pointers. I have always found his suggestions to be a great place to start tweaking your own. I will leave a link to Rob’s post below. Hope it helps.

 

http://p3dwiki.com/graphics.html

Interesting.  I didn't know that you can create different setting profiles for type of plane or time of day.  Is there something that can point me how to do this?  I was under the impression that you can only do one as I have never seen a place to save the profile. This would be a big help. 

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17 minutes ago, roi1862 said:

have a look at the below link

Some really promising news at the end of that thread. I don't really notice much of an extreme performance hit when I fly the FSL Bus, but I'm well aware that others do and it's great that FSL are looking into it. Hopefully we'll see an update soon!

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This..

"Yes - a lot of work went into this. And we used FRAFS to profile our results, which are now inline with titles from other developers. 

Our testers have reported significant improvements in performance - it is now much more fluid."

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1 hour ago, Zimmerbz said:

Interesting.  I didn't know that you can create different setting profiles for type of plane or time of day.  Is there something that can point me how to do this?  I was under the impression that you can only do one as I have never seen a place to save the profile. This would be a big help. 

It's in the link in the text that you quoted! On the 1st page of the 5 that auto-scroll under each of the 8 tabs you'll see it at the top left.

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1 hour ago, Ebs said:

Some really promising news at the end of that thread. I don't really notice much of an extreme performance hit when I fly the FSL Bus, but I'm well aware that others do and it's great that FSL are looking into it. Hopefully we'll see an update soon!

You just gotta load the same scenario, first with the A320 and then with any PMDG plane.

Most of the time I get around 50-100% more FPS with the PMDG planes. Especially DL is hard with the A320.

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6 minutes ago, swiesma said:

Most of the time I get around 50-100% more FPS with the PMDG planes

oh, I definitely see a hit, but it's nothing like 50-100% difference for me (unless I compare it to the Q400 of course ;)) (6700k, 16gb, 1070)

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1 minute ago, Ebs said:

oh, I definitely see a hit, but it's nothing like 50-100% difference for me (unless I compare it to the Q400 of course ;)) (6700k, 16gb, 1070)

Well i dont know about 50% or 100% all i know is with other heavy payware planes i can fly in big heavy payware airports and with the A320 i cant. So for now i am using it only for small payware airports.

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What really kills the FPS for me is if I switch all the lights on when taking off/landing. Just one set is ok but anything that overlaps just tanks the fps.

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Yep, that's what I mean with DL.

If I turn on the lights in the VC my FPS are awefull :(

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27 minutes ago, swiesma said:

 

If I turn on the lights in the VC my FPS are awefull :(

I only see that with SSAA. (of course) 

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14 hours ago, Matthew James de Bohun said:

What really kills the FPS for me is if I switch all the lights on when taking off/landing. Just one set is ok but anything that overlaps just tanks the fps.

Try using MSAA instead of SXAA. Even at 2X it's an FPS killer when Dynamic Lights are used.

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14 hours ago, Ebs said:

I only see that with SSAA. (of course) 

The good old SSAA :-)

No, I run with MSAA and still my FPS compared to the PMDG birds are pretty bad. But nevertheless I really love flying the Bus. But maybe they can enhance the performance according to their thread mentioned above. Let's see.

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As this is the single most expensive aircraft add on, I can't help wondering why its so badly optimised?

I have just moved from 32 bit P3d into V4 and am looking for a top end heavy. Looks like I will go for the NGX or the T7?

Regards.

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"Heavy" -> 777 or 747, both good birds.

But the bus is really a nice addon! I don't regret spending the money. They all have their good / bad sides. I own them all.... and the T7 is still my favourite. Especially the 200LR, because it feels like a sportscar. Big engines and loads of power....

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59 minutes ago, charlie130 said:

As this is the single most expensive aircraft add on, I can't help wondering why its so badly optimised?

I have just moved from 32 bit P3d into V4 and am looking for a top end heavy. Looks like I will go for the NGX or the T7?

Regards.

Well David that depends how you want to look at it. At one time people thought it would be impossible to make a true A320 for FSX> . FSL took 7 years to make it and it was made for 32bit. It simulates the aircraft in a way that until now we have not seen. I own the NG and 777 also there 747v3. The FSL 320 is as close to a true level D simulation of an aircraft of that complexity we can get. 

As for your dismissal of it being "badly optimised" I would suggest you watch a lot of blackbox711 on youtube a real life A320 pilot and get a bit more insight on what the FSL A320 bring to us. 

Then bare in mind just as they bought it out for FSX everyone was moving to P3D so then had to made it work with P3D, then they were hit with v4 and 64bit.......so with more than xXXX likely more code than any aircraft we can buy they had to now make it work with 64bit. They even had to work with LM to even make it work, hence 4.1. 

So now it was released within v4 they have now set out on working on performance and have said this about the next build..

"Yes - a lot of work went into this. And we used FRAFS to profile our results, which are now inline with titles from other developers. 

Our testers have reported significant improvements in performance - it is now much more fluid."

To make there A320 run as smooth for everyone as an 8 year old PMDG NG is something to be highly praised. It's a lot of money no more than PMDG's but you get hell of a simulation for your money of an aircraft then sits at the top of the tree.

On a side note: After I goto 4.1 and the Bus it took me 2 weeks to set up my sim but now I run 25 FPS no stutters with perfect texture loading and can do flights from areosofts EGLL to FT EHAM with bad weather and the sim does not bat an eye. I also use shock horror SSAA!

The PMDG NG and 777 are great aircraft, personally I prefer the NG it is a true classic. I prefer the 777 over the new 747, no idea why but I do.

Over the years I normally do a full on guide to setting up the sim with my PC/spec's so hopefully people find useful, but v4 runs so well and with FSL new release version it sounds that it's pointless making one. People should be able to make v4.1 run like dream. Its by far the best sim i've used in 20 years.

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5 hours ago, jacf182 said:

Try using MSAA instead of SXAA. Even at 2X it's an FPS killer when Dynamic Lights are used.

Problem with that is then my scenery goes from some distant shimmers to horrendous.  The distant night lighting especially just looks rubbish!

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5 hours ago, charlie130 said:

As this is the single most expensive aircraft add on, I can't help wondering why its so badly optimised?

I have just moved from 32 bit P3d into V4 and am looking for a top end heavy. Looks like I will go for the NGX or the T7?

Regards.

I understand the SP will have lots of optimization in it. I'm holding off buying until that is released. Anyone have any idea when that will be?

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1 hour ago, Matthew James de Bohun said:

Problem with that is then my scenery goes from some distant shimmers to horrendous.  The distant night lighting especially just looks rubbish!

You must be using Orbx but lights which are rubbish. Went to Black Marble, 10 times better.

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