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V-Tail Bonanza by A2A

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This is exciting news!

 

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What scenery are they using? Looks great!

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Looking forward to this mystical aircraft. I have the Carenado version and it's meh. I know A2A will create a real beauty.

If you're unfamiliar with this aircraft, I'd like to suggest you do some googling and check out the controversies and rumors surrounding the dreaded '.. Killer'. 

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HA  called this two addons ago.  There was a snippet in their Comanche preview about wing shape and one was of the bonanza.

will be an easy buy!  Still hoping for a twin too!

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Was my first retractable gear a/c during my flight instruction. Fun aircraft - looking forward to what A2A will bring to the table.

Vic

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I never flew one, but I remember it was nicknamed the "Doctor Killer" because if its flight characteristics. It's an interesting choice on the part of A2A.

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The "V-tail doctor killer" due to its unstable lateral axis. The downward force is non existent on this airplane and it's unforgiving. Mess up on this one and it could be the last time you mess up. :biggrin:

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I've got nearly all their releases but was really hoping for some twin engine fun this time around :/

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Doubtful it's a Doctor killer anymore since they have long moved on to the latest and greatest as those people do...

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Now the Cirrus is the Doctor Killer.

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I think its gonna be a fun and challenng GA plane to fly.  \o/

Hopefully a nice GA twin is in the works too for later.

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37 minutes ago, Guevorkyan said:

Now the Cirrus is the Doctor Killer.

Not since Cirrus added their training curriculum - but it definitely was technology overload when it first came out 

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46 minutes ago, Guevorkyan said:

Now the Cirrus is the Doctor Killer.

:biggrin:

Most just got CAPS happy.

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2 hours ago, DJJose said:

The "V-tail doctor killer" due to its unstable lateral axis. The downward force is non existent on this airplane and it's unforgiving. Mess up on this one and it could be the last time you mess up. :biggrin:

As I recall from all the talk about the V Tail at the time, the CG is also a cause for concern. I can't remember why though.

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3 hours ago, jabloomf1230 said:

I never flew one, but I remember it was nicknamed the "Doctor Killer" because if its flight characteristics. It's an interesting choice on the part of A2A.

There is an interesting post from Dudley Henriques about the "Doctor Killer" in the A2A' forum.

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This will be a Must Buy for me, as I've flown in a V-Tail under VFR and IFR.  A good friend had one.  And yes, it can fly like a warbird.  My plane of choice now is the Carenado V-Tail, which is Exactly like the one I've flown in.  I hope they have the wood panel and chrome.

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16 hours ago, DJJose said:

The "V-tail doctor killer" due to its unstable lateral axis. The downward force is non existent on this airplane and it's unforgiving. Mess up on this one and it could be the last time you mess up. :biggrin:

I thought Mooneys were the Doctor Killers?

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Richard Collins, stated this in an article published in Air Facts in 2012. Pretty much sums it up!

"The airplane had light and delightful control forces and while it was stable in pitch it was less so in roll. If a pilot was going to hand-fly in clouds he had to be both good and attentive. Left to its own devices, a V-tail would be in a spiral dive in a heartbeat. A VFR pilot in clouds was almost autodead."

Cheers

Martin

 

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15 minutes ago, MartinRex007 said:

Richard Collins, stated this in an article published in Air Facts in 2012. Pretty much sums it up!

"The airplane had light and delightful control forces and while it was stable in pitch it was less so in roll. If a pilot was going to hand-fly in clouds he had to be both good and attentive. Left to its own devices, a V-tail would be in a spiral dive in a heartbeat. A VFR pilot in clouds was almost autodead."

Cheers

Martin

 

Good thing when it happened to me I was in the Cherokee!

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5 hours ago, denali said:

I thought Mooneys were the Doctor Killers?

I dont think so, iirc from my GA days I thought it was Bonanzas that were the "Dr Killer"... I have been seriously thinking about getting back into GA (I owned a M20J for a few years) and started investigating B35 ownership (need to make sure I can find a good plane for my budget), I am really looking forward to A2A release of this wonderful aircraft!

John

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The V-tail certainly has some unique handling characteristics, but as much as anything the rep came from it being a desirable, high-performance step-up plane that was often being purchased by users with more money than flight-time and training.  And of course the V-tail just naturally lent itself to the ominous sounding sobriquet of "fork-tailed".  Thus the "Fork-tailed Dr. Killer" legend was born.  I ended up purchasing my Piper Turbo Arrow IV from an MD who was selling it to buy a V35, but many were making a far bigger jump when they bought their V-tails.

I'm also very-much interested in what A2A does with this one.  I have the Carenado with the "optional" Bernt Stolle FDE which isn't bad, but it's dated at best and I rarely fly it.  My first hour of logged instruction came in a V35B.  The owner was a casual friend and CFI who knew I was about to jump into training so he offered to take me up and give me some initial flight instruction in his plane before I started my program with a local flight school.  Sure made the 152s I finished my training in seem slow, small and primitive. 

Say what you will about the V-tail, but the V35's handling will put a smile on almost anyone's face.  If A2A can come close to duplicating that feel, I'll be a happy simmer.

Scott

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On 4/8/2018 at 6:55 PM, jabloomf1230 said:

I never flew one, but I remember it was nicknamed the "Doctor Killer" because if its flight characteristics. It's an interesting choice on the part of A2A.

CG is affected by how the pilot loads the aircraft. A forward cg is better than an aft cg. You will have a hard time flaring properly or recovering from a stall if you don't load within the specified cg limits. Either way the airplane becomes less stable, but because you're dealing with a v-tail, it's even more dangerous.

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Thanks. I'm looking forward to the A2A version as it seems like the V tail has some interesting characteristics.

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Since I'm a P3dv4-Professional owner I've decided not to purchase the A2A Bonanza. 😞

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21 minutes ago, Bluestar said:

Since I'm a P3dv4-Professional owner I've decided not to purchase the A2A Bonanza. 😞

And why is that? They do offer a "Professional" version.

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