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P3d V4.3 seems a little messy

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To this point, I have only did a Client install but I seem to be having more than normal problems with 4.3. I have a lot of studders on the ground. P3d is crashing everytime that I shut it down. Screen freezes after using for a while. I can not put my finger on it but I don't think that this version is playing well with ChasePlane or AS beta. I am holding off on reinstall til all the Dev's get things sorted out but In my case I have not had this poor of a running system since FSX days.

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I know this isn't particularly helpful but it's running fine here, I went straight from 4.1 to 4.3 but I don't really run any utility addons aside from FSXWX. Did you uninstalled the old client before installing the new one, and also did you update your ASP4 and ChasePlane to the v4.3 compatible versions?

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Too bad and frustrating not being able to pinpoint the cause. Overhere 4.3 is running like a dream.

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Hi @Rimshot,

 

have updated from a clean 4.2 to 4.3 client only. Have all the AddOn's from my signature running. Never had a crash (had ASPv4 in Beta3 and have the current Beta4; dropped CP for EZCA again due to bad performance).

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Hi!

I only updated the client from 4.1 to 4.3. I have many hours in the sky with P3D4.3. In my case, everything works very well. But I do not fly very long flights, a maximum of 2-3 hours. I had strong stutters once but I noticed that my CPU overclocking suddenly went off. I loaded the BIOS and slightly raised the voltage on the CPU, then overclocking back and again everything was very good. I think the high ambient temperature might have had an impact. Once again, I want to note that I have no problems with blurring textures or stuttering. Prepare3D 4.3 is much more stable and faster than other versions for me.

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Thanks for the replies. Yep sounds like I need to reinstall everything and also redo overclocking although it has been stable for a long time now. I only fly GA and reasonable settings for autogen ect. My system is not great but should do much better.

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4.3 runs very well for me too.

I will say that anytime P3D v4 has been misbehaving, deleting the Prepar3D.cfg has pretty much always fixed the problem, and returned P3Dv4 into a smooth experience. Try that first before you go on the long haul of reinstalling the whole thing!

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18 minutes ago, Benjamin J said:

4.3 runs very well for me too.

I will say that anytime P3D v4 has been misbehaving, deleting the Prepar3D.cfg has pretty much always fixed the problem, and returned P3Dv4 into a smooth experience. Try that first before you go on the long haul of reinstalling the whole thing!

I've read this several times. Do I understand that you have a bog standard config and it turns in a 'smooth experience'. Then P3D misbehaves and you replace the cfg with another bog standard config and smoothness returns. Is that about it? Or do you mess with the config which eventually causes misbehaviour, then delete the cfg which returns you to default settings?

 

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6 minutes ago, Ron Attwood said:

I've read this several times. Do I understand that you have a bog standard config and it turns in a 'smooth experience'. Then P3D misbehaves and you replace the cfg with another bog standard config and smoothness returns. Is that about it? Or do you mess with the config which eventually causes misbehaviour, then delete the cfg which returns you to default settings?

I do not touch the Prepar3D.cfg at all - and as such I cna understand any skepticism on your part as to why this might work. Why would it, if I don't mess with it? My theory is that certain addons might do stuff it. Hell, maybe even when Prepar3D itself edits the cfg when I change settings does sloppy edits here and there. After a while I'm guessing slight errors accumulate and make the sim run worse than it actually should.

Of course I have no numbers to back anything up, and it may very well be a placebo effect. After all, I've only ever had a CTD with P3Dv4 once, and this was caused a bottleneck in the autogen displayed over FTX NL. But, it's such a simple thing to do - deleting the Prepar3D.cfg - that you may as well try it. If it doesn't fix anything, it'll certainly not break anything.

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Simple to check - make a copy of a fresh cfg file and save it. go fly - when you are at the point where you feel you need to start with a new fresh cfg file - save the current one.  Use a free program like winmerge to compare current vs saved original and see what's changed. That might give you a clue.

 

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Don’t forget to delete the shaders folder aswell, and let that rebuild! 

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14 minutes ago, vgbaron said:

Simple to check - make a copy of a fresh cfg file and save it. go fly - when you are at the point where you feel you need to start with a new fresh cfg file - save the current one.  Use a free program like winmerge to compare current vs saved original and see what's changed. That might give you a clue.

 

Vic

I deleted the .cfg and did a short flight. It did indeed make things better. Much smoother and no crash on shutdown. I had just made a copy of the new clean .cfg and I am going to keep copies as I add higher settings and try the weather From AS. I don't mess with any tweak and so we shall see what happens. 

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Windows 10 updates of late seem to be messing things up for several programs. I did a system refresh and reinstalled everything a few weeks back. Anything that did get messed up by a major windows update was all cleared up.

Nvidia drivers of late are also messing things up for many. Used to be that we could (and would want to) just dive in, with no concern, when new (or even beta) drivers were released.

Flight simulation needs to get back on top of the technology curve, the way I see it.

 

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29 minutes ago, pracines said:

Windows 10 updates of late seem to be messing things up for several programs. I did a system refresh and reinstalled everything a few weeks back. Anything that did get messed up by a major windows update was all cleared up.

Nvidia drivers of late are also messing things up for many. Used to be that we could (and would want to) just dive in, with no concern, when new (or even beta) drivers were released.

Flight simulation needs to get back on top of the technology curve, the way I see it.

 

I agree. There are so many version of flight sim all going in different directions. The Dev's are trying to be all things to all sims and that has got to inject a few bugs here and there and as you said...Windows updates are a mess and the Nvida drivers seem to be getting a bit goofy. It is nice to have choices but as I have said before...we may have to much of a good thing right now. LOL

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2 hours ago, shivers9 said:

I deleted the .cfg and did a short flight. It did indeed make things better. Much smoother and no crash on shutdown. I had just made a copy of the new clean .cfg and I am going to keep copies as I add higher settings and try the weather From AS. I don't mess with any tweak and so we shall see what happens. 

Glad it worked for you. Deleting the cfg is always my number 1 trouble shooting step.

vgbaron: that's a good suggestion. I might do that next time to get a sense of what changed (though hoping it won't be necessary!).

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4 hours ago, shivers9 said:

I deleted the .cfg and did a short flight. It did indeed make things better. Much smoother and no crash on shutdown.

It would be very helpful for other readers to know what differences there were in your Prepar3d.cfg that was causing problems vs. the one that is not causing problems ... any chance you can share those differences?  (using Vic's suggestion of WinMerge tool will show you the differences).

Cheers, Rob.

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51 minutes ago, Rob Ainscough said:

It would be very helpful for other readers to know what differences there were in your Prepar3d.cfg that was causing problems vs. the one that is not causing problems ... any chance you can share those differences?  (using Vic's suggestion of WinMerge tool will show you the differences).

Cheers, Rob.

Hi Rob...I wish I had saved the old .cfg but I am starting to get the Prepar3d not responding already again. No error log that I can see. So far it just happens when I close P3D.  I will post what ever comes up in the CFG. 

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2 hours ago, shivers9 said:

... I am starting to get the Prepar3d not responding already again. No error log that I can see. So far it just happens when I close P3D.  I will post what ever comes up in the CFG.

Sam - I see you have older hardware, and I'm not saying that's the issue...  but with each sequential release of P3D it is not unreasonable to expect slightly higher resource needs from the PC.  This pattern has been clear since I started PC simming back in the early MS flight sim days.  Since you are overclocking your current CPU, you might consider dropping it down a bit to see if the behavior stops.  Just a thought from right field.

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24 minutes ago, dmiannay said:

Sam - I see you have older hardware, and I'm not saying that's the issue...  but with each sequential release of P3D it is not unreasonable to expect slightly higher resource needs from the PC.  This pattern has been clear since I started PC simming back in the early MS flight sim days.  Since you are overclocking your current CPU, you might consider dropping it down a bit to see if the behavior stops.  Just a thought from right field.

Yes sir you are right. I am just kind of holding out to see what is coming out in the next few weeks in the GPU area. I sure don't try to run with the sliders to high. I have just been seeing some things that others have also reported with for instance stutters and P3d crash when closing. An example would be the other day the studders came in in an area that should have been very easy for my system to handle. I turned off all the eye candy and  sliders all the way to the left and still the stutters. I think this is being caused by changing views and then returning to the cockpit but LOL! I can't prove it. I started the thread just to see what others are reporting. I have always had very good luck with P3d and interested to find out why some of these things are happening.

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5 minutes ago, shivers9 said:

I have just been seeing some things that others have also reported with for instance stutters ... An example would be the other day the studders came in in an area that should have been very easy for my system to handle. I turned off all the eye candy and  sliders all the way to the left and still the stutters. I think this is being caused by changing views and then returning to the cockpit but LOL! I can't prove it. I started the thread just to see what others are reporting. I have always had very good luck with P3d and interested to find out why some of these things are happening.

I would agree that stutters do not seem to be related in any way to a flaky overclock, but the crashing when closing just might be.  A slight tweak to your OC just might reveal if that is the culprit, at least for the crashing.  Process of elimination...

Good luck, my friend.

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