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Upgrading Cpu

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Hi everyone

I currently run P3dV4 on and I7 5960x Cpu with emough memory along with a GTX 1080Ti Graphics card.

I am thinking of upgrading my CPU to an I7 8700k or can anyone suggest a CPU that may be a better fit for P3dV4. I have the $$$ but looking at value for what I get also. 

 

Thanks for reading 

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I'm on a 6700k. Upgrading to a i9 9900k with a new Z390 motherboard. Putting in a bigger AIO cooler as well. That i9 9900 with my 64gb 2666mhz of RAM should snack quite nicely on P3Dv4. 

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Eric 

 

 

I hope you share your upgrade experience with us Eric. Will a 5.0 Ghz overclock be easily achieved or only on the "lottery" chips?
 

Cheers

Steve Hall

38 minutes ago, cowpatz said:

I hope you share your upgrade experience with us Eric. Will a 5.0 Ghz overclock be easily achieved or only on the "lottery" chips?
 

Until the general release of retail chips, nobody will be able to say for sure, but based on a long history of overclocking intel CPUs since the Conroe days, I'd say a 5 GHz clock will likely be trivially easy, given that Intel's two-core-active turbo mode on the i9-9900K is officially specced at 5 GHz right out of the box.  I wouldn't be surprised if it'll do all 8 cores at 5.0 on stock voltages with a half-decent cooling solution, although on that I'm on a little shaky ground as I haven't clocked one of their CPUs with more than 4 physical cores yet. 

I'm pretty comfortable betting on the come with this one...I'm with the rest of the crowd waiting on my preordered 9900K to ship.

 

The waiiiiiiting, is the hardest part

 

Cheers

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE
Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus,
TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

The prices of the 9900 are just ridiculously high

AMD 7 7700X, 32GB DDR5, RTX 5060ti 16GB, 2 x Samsung 1TB NVMe, 1 x 4TB sata SSD, Windows 11 Prof

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What about the I7 9700k?

2 minutes ago, shane2801 said:

What about the I7 9700k?

IMO just get the I9 9900K... you're probably going to have this new machine for 3 years, you'll be happy you spent the extra money, especially as P3D is CPU hungry.

5GHz on 2 cores out of the box! 
Maybe with water cooling and a good chip you'll get 5.5GHz on all 8 cores... who knows?

This guy's getting 6.8Ghz on liquid nitrogen!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN7VwAmp-_s

 

 

Matthew S

1 minute ago, shane2801 said:

What about the I7 9700k?

The 9700K looks like a really strong CPU for P3D as well.  No hyperthreading (probably not a factor for simming with 8 physical cores available), and 12MB vs 16MB L3 cache.  Factory rated to 4.9 GHz (two-core) at highest turbo boost speed.  $420 for the i7-9700K vs $580 for the i9-9900K on release day.

Personally, I *really* want that extra cache working alongside some fast Samsung B-die RAM modules, as my primary goal is to smooth out the bumps from intermittent spikes in workload associated with autogen and terrain/texture loading and fusion.

Regards

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE
Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus,
TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

26 minutes ago, willy647 said:

The prices of the 9900 are just ridiculously high

Guess it depends on your reference point and your history.  I have three fly rods that i use a few times every summer that each cost at least as much as the 9900K.  Every 2-3 years I end up buying a pair of smart phones for my wife and I--that would buy nearly four of those CPUs.  My X6800 Conroe dual-core CPU was $1000 in 2006, and it was probably the most eye-watering single-step change to my (FS9) simming experience in 25 years.  The second most stunning was the next step up, another $1000 CPU, the i7-975 Extreme Edition Nehalem that was my first CPU that would actually run FSX without embarassment.  Since those two, it's been steady incremental progress, cheaper at each step, but not tremendously remarkable, either.  I'm kind of hoping that doubling my processor count to 8 cores with higher-than-ever overclocks made possible by a return to soldered IHS construction and better use of threaded concurrency in P3Dv4 will once again serve up some sizzle, but this time without the $1000 price tag.  If it does, I won't think it too ridiculous.  If it doesn't, I still won't have to wait until next summer to use it.  😉

Regards

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE
Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus,
TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

4 minutes ago, w6kd said:

8 cores with higher-than-ever overclocks made possible by a return to soldered IHS construction

 

Wont be long before the water cooled OC results start coming in...  If people are getting 5.5Ghz on all 8 cores on water then the I9-9900K is a bargain IMO.

Matthew S

Whats probably helping to achieve the higher OCs is the solder used to the IHS instead of lousy thermal paste from intel.  Of course also depends on having a good 12 power phase and high quality construction VRMs on the MB. Makes for an expensive upgrade but if the benchmarks prove anything, it may well be worth it for prepar3d finally. 

CYVR LSZH 

I7-14700k 64gb 6000Mhz DDR5 ASUS  z690 ROG STRIX Gaming  RTX 4080 Super, 

As a piece of caution: do not expect too much from overclocking the 9900K. Intel is playing games with those CPUs. They HAD to use again properly soldered IHS for this generation, as it would have been simply impossible with the approach they did in the last few years. Furthermore, Intels TDP specification of 95W for the 9900K is simply for the base clock of 3.6GHz, as soon as the turbo kicks in, 95W are an illusion. I doubt that with a normal standard cooling solution that 5.0GHz on all 8 cores is as easy to achieve as many here think. I guess, the heat produced will be at least comparable to a 8700K running at 5.0GHz on all 6 cores, and this you do not get cooled using a standard cooling solution. Certainly you can Forget 5.5GHz on all cores, this will be never the case for normal users.

Greetings, Chris

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 2x32GB DDR5 6000MT/s RAM, MSI RTX 4090 Ventus 3X, Windows 11 Home, MSFS2024

5 hours ago, w6kd said:

Personally, I *really* want that extra cache working alongside some fast Samsung B-die RAM modules, as my primary goal is to smooth out the bumps from intermittent spikes in workload associated with autogen and terrain/texture loading and fusion.

Regards

Nice memory kit there Bob.  If I had that kit I would certainly try it at 4266 c17 or 4000 c16, as the quality z390 boards should be capable.

Edited by FunknNasty

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Ken C

38 minutes ago, FunknNasty said:

Nice memory kit there Bob.  If I had that kit I would certainly try it at 4266 c17 or 4000 c16, as the quality z390 boards should be capable.

How can you read from "32GB DDR4 3200MHz" that this is a "nice memory kit"?

Greetings, Chris

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 2x32GB DDR5 6000MT/s RAM, MSI RTX 4090 Ventus 3X, Windows 11 Home, MSFS2024

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