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Matt Davies' projects face a very uncertain future

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Note: We all know that Matt is a rather controversial figure in the flight sim world, but please try to keep this discussion civil. An internet person is still a human being...

It appears that all the projects currently being developed by Mettar Simulations face a rather uncertain feature with parts of the team quitting and financial investment streams ceasing.

Here Matt's statement: 

https://mettarsim.com/2018/10/20/learn-from-my-mistakes/

TL;DR: Matt decided to take a step back and merely disappear from the public for some time. His investor Nico (the guy who bought AirDailyX and made it an ordinary, bland news site) supposedly didnt keep his promises and money flow ceased, causing some of the Mettar team to quit as they werent paid anymore.

 

So that puts projects like Simstall, POSCON (to a certain extend as he was only partner), ProjectFly and the infamous A380 project at risk. Many will say "I told you so!" (me included) and I'm afraid they were all right. Running several "world changing" projects at the same time is just too much for any small dev studio. 

 

 

 

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Sad but not completely unpredictable.  Now, nothing about PTA in there, will support for that go AWOL with Matt?

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Good point, totally forgot about PTA. I believe its Matts own project and not related to the Mettar team. However its not clear if Matt is just going to disappear from the public or if he's putting everything on hold for now. 

 

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Even though the article linked above only tells Matt‘s side of the story, I really feel sorry for him. He is a controversial guy but he has done a lot of good things for this community. On the other hand, my gut feeling tells me that some other people (you know who I mean) have not been a valuable addition to this community. Just look at what happened to AirDailyX and now this. It‘s a shame. 

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sounds like the bloke has been in a few dark places in his life, I hope it works well out for him

Peter

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Why "controversial"?

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1 hour ago, otreblA said:

Why "controversial"?

He seems to over promise and under deliver. His products are very similar to other projects that are out there (ProjectFly / SimBuddy and POSCOM / VATSIM). Some folks are not fans of that. He also purchased PTA which was donate-ware once upon a time and then sold it. 

Read that statement, really wish him well. 

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I clicked on the link, read, and don't understand the link with PTA?

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Hopefully PTA can continue .....

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5 minutes ago, Simicro said:

I clicked on the link, read, and don't understand the link with PTA?

Matt is the current author of the PTA for P3Dv4, so if he quits from flight simming, he'll probably stop its development for future versions of P3D, at least for some time (if ever, as he mentions).

Cheers, Ed

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Afaik PTA is a personal project of Matt and not a project of Mettar. Nevertheless, if he steps back from everything he’ll probably also step back from PTA. Maybe it can/will/should become a freeware project again, is it was.

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Thanks Ed, I was not aware for Matt being the author of PTA.

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Just now, Simicro said:

Thanks Ed, I was not aware for Matt being the author of PTA.

He isn’t. He bought the rights and turned it into payware after adding his own preset. That’s about it, really. He didn’t create it.

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Thanks for the additional info and clarification Jeroen.

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Whilst it's a shame, I have to say that I was quite disappointed when I met Matt at Cosford this year.  I went up and introduced myself, only to be met with a highly stand-off and almost arrogant response with a hint of 'why are you bothering me?'.  I'm sure that wasn't his intention, at least I hope it wasn't, but it did leave a bitter taste in my mouth.  I know he's got some tough stuff going on in his private life, but I don't know why that would lead to treating people in the way he did.

Meeting Chewie, on the other hand, was a thoroughly pleasant experience.

Edit:  After just reading Matt's post, perhaps this explains it to some degree.

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Topics merged together 

 

9 hours ago, Woozie said:

but please try to keep this discussion civil. An internet person is still a human being...

Yes Indeed

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38 minutes ago, Simicro said:

Thanks Ed, I was not aware for Matt being the author of PTA.

He took over PTA for v3 from its original author (bought it), and re-engineered it for P3Dv4, that's why I said is the author of "PTA for P3Dv4". He also introduced new parameters and improved it to take advantage of the P3D 64bit platform.

Cheers, Ed

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He was never involved with the development behind POSCON, nor does have the skills to do so, so POSCON remains and develops as per schedule. The extent of his role there was management only & the future of POSCON isn't under any kind of threat from this development. 

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37 minutes ago, adyfoot said:

Whilst it's a shame, I have to say that I was quite disappointed when I met Matt at Cosford this year.  I went up and introduced myself, only to be met with a highly stand-off and almost arrogant response with a hint of 'why are you bothering me?'.  I'm sure that wasn't his intention, at least I hope it wasn't, but it did leave a bitter taste in my mouth.  I know he's got some tough stuff going on in his private life, but I don't know why that would lead to treating people in the way he did.

Meeting Chewie, on the other hand, was a thoroughly pleasant experience.

Edit:  After just reading Matt's post, perhaps this explains it to some degree.

Clearly explained on his post. Needless to say he's a very talented guy.

Cheers, Ed

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I know nothing about any of the various projects involved, but having read Matt's mea maxima culpa I'm still somewhat confused, especially about the apparent "investor" who evidently failed to actually "invest" at all, despite a "gentleman's agreement."

It does speak quite well of Matt's character that he defends Nico (the non-investor) and accepts full blame for the whole sad circumstances!

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I find it highly unlikely that Matt will disappear completely.

I’m not completely surprised that this has happened but  I do feel for him on a personal level. It is particularly awful because he is  a ‘comeback kid’  from a rather tragic history. On that basis alone,  I have always wanted him to succeed.  One of his admirable qualities was his determined attitude, in what is actually, quite a fickle industry. But unfortunately, his history means he has a lot of deeply routed emotional issues (predominantly anger) which very often comes out in his streams. Not a good thing for someone in a senior level of responsibility.  How that played out in his dealings with colleagues, only they will know.   

Regardless, this is his passion as much as it is ours and I hope the emotional reaction he has had will  moderate over the next few days.  But he should address PTA development and support as a priority if he wishes to retain support of the community. That was completely his project - controversially payware - so damage control will start there. Otherwise he will lose the business and the support of the entire community. 

Im concerned that the severe impact of what has happened might ultimately end even more tragically if the community turn on him as well.

 

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What about the bucks from twitch and YouTube?? 

He could do a utLive and release a pay to beta, or he could do a chris bell and charge for support and to download your products you already bought. Plenty of gangsters in this business.

Surely he could do a crowd fund scam like star citizen.. Plenty of kids he could drown of thier pocket money, his streams full of them 

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So he got an investor that didn't invest, and now he can't pay his team (which of course are bailing out)...This is confusing.
He (Matt) seems to be a nice guy though. His "investor" is an odd bloke with a full motion sim pit, and with a funny personality. I follow both on Twitch.

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