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As far as I understand, the difference isn't in the resolution of ground textures but e.g. the relation of bespoke buildings to pure autogen. That's where ORBX TE GB excels - and struggles....

....which is exactly my point. If you are still using the same bespoke 3D models and autogen on top of photoscenery, then (all other things being equal) there should be little difference in performance.

6 minutes ago, Christopher Low said:

....which is exactly my point. If you are still using the same bespoke 3D models and autogen on top of photoscenery, then (all other things being equal) there should be little difference in performance.

Ground textures aren't the issue here 😉 it's all about 3d objects and how they are implemented...

7 minutes ago, Christopher Low said:

....which is exactly my point. If you are still using the same bespoke 3D models and autogen on top of photoscenery, then (all other things being equal) there should be little difference in performance.

You probably missed my post a little bit up ....

6 hours ago, Capt Pugwash said:

Just my 2 cents chaps...Got fed up tweaking again and jumped on the JF VFR Next Gen out of shear frustration, glad I did, its far from perfect, and I know it’s not at Orbx True Earth’s level of detail but at least it’s flyable with high end airliners and very vfr usable without crashing the sim 👍

Worth noting that it looks like JF VFR England & Wales will be in 3 parts and Scotland (if it happens) also likely in 3 parts. 6 products for £150 compared to ORBX's 3 for £90 for the same area coverage. That's potentially a big difference!

I'm hoping the Control Panel patch due imminently can make TE GB useable over cities, because it's a massive improvement on what we had for photo scenery before.

4 hours ago, pmb said:

The point is money, Tony. I am now going to buy the same GB ORBX airports I bought for P3D once more for XP to complete TE GB. Even considering the 40% rebate, that's certainly good for Mr. Venema's wallet but not for mine.

Exactly, Michael! It's an expensive proposition.

My type of flying (mainly passenger jets), in all weather & all seasons, is suited to P3D.

TrueEarth is either made to work in P3D or I don't buy any future releases of it. It's a 'nice to have' product, not a 'must have'. I have no intention to buy XP just to run one developer's output.

Edited February 12, 20197 yr by F737NG

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Worth noting that it looks like JF VFR England & Wales will be in 3 parts and Scotland (if it happens) also likely in 3 parts. 6 products for £150 compared to ORBX's 3 for £90 for the same area coverage. That's potentially a big difference!

Check out the product page for VFR Real Scenery Volume 1 on the JustFlight website. Scroll down, and you will see that there are going to be four products....

• Volume 1 - Southern England and South Wales
• Volume 2 - Central England and North Wales
• Volume 3 - Northern England
• Volume 4 - Scotland

There is also a map showing the four scenery regions.

Edited February 12, 20197 yr by Christopher Low

Just now, Christopher Low said:

Check out the product page for VFR Real Scenery Volume 1. Scroll down, and you will see that there are going to be four products....

• Volume 1 - Southern England and South Wales
• Volume 2 - Central England and North Wales
• Volume 3 - Northern England
• Volume 4 - Scotland

There is also a map showing the four scenery regions.

SRP is £24.99 per volume but existing owners of any JF VFR Real Scenery (boxed or download) get each volume for £19.99. If you haven't bought the JF version before and buy Vol 1 of NexGen, you get the £5 discount on 2, 3 and 4 as they are released. So, maximum £100, minimum £80. And Scotland comes with 5m mesh. 

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And Scotland comes with 5m mesh

LOL!

Cat/pigeons etc.

Hi Everyone

Did I read somewhere that it is advisable to have Global Base installed to use this to it's fullest or did I dream it?

Paul

7 hours ago, simbol said:

P3D 4.4 enabled PBR for example, which of course increases the performance of the sim in many ways

Where did you get the info that P3D will performs better because of PBR enabled? If PBR could improve performance, why only one default aircraft in P3D came with PBR enabled?

7 hours ago, simbol said:

XP will not display any content unless it is PBR

This is wrong,

3 hours ago, fta2017 said:

If you read some of the explanations being offered at the orbx forums you would understand that TE GB does not use autogen for a lot of the 3D building which make the sliders a bit redundant. They are working on a control panel to offer tuning of the scenery.

Have you got a link to that?. Not sure this is true. The Scenery Complexity slider has 6 graduations but only 2 have been made Sparse and Extremely Dense.

This has nothing to do with Autogen and eveything to do with Orbx not doing the groundwork to define the extra in between levels in the BGL files. 

Dellypilot,

https://orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/168114-tegb-south-p3dv44-settings-for-smooth-performance-at-4k/?do=findComment&comment=1478118

31 minutes ago, Oliver Ooi said:

Where did you get the info that P3D will performs better because of PBR enabled? If PBR could improve performance, why only one default aircraft in P3D came with PBR enabled?

Because the platform has enabled PBR capabilities,  it is the responsibility for all 3rd party content providers to convert all their add-on's to PBR. Lockheed Martin cannot do this on their behalf, you need to open re-edit each Airplane 3D model under 3DSmax (which only the original developers will have access to) and create new textures, new materials, etc.

This statement clearly shows the lack of understanding of the subject, it is the reason why I get so irritated about the bad mounting of any simulation platform.

31 minutes ago, Oliver Ooi said:

This is wrong,

Wherever you say.. what do I know, you are right i have no idea on the subject.. I will disconnect now from this topic, everyone wants to trash P3D, go ahead.. enjoy it.. 

S.

 

 

Edited February 12, 20197 yr by simbol

45 minutes ago, nolonger said:

Dellypilot,

https://orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/168114-tegb-south-p3dv44-settings-for-smooth-performance-at-4k/?do=findComment&comment=1478118

Yea as I thought. Nothing to do with autogen. Its because London is only 2 scenery models. The 2 models are SPARSE (central london)  and NORMAL (every building). It probably would have taken them ages to split it into 6 nicely graduated density settings. Its poor and should have been caught in beta testing.

16 minutes ago, DellyPilot said:

Yea as I thought. Nothing to do with autogen. Its because London is only 2 scenery models. The 2 models are SPARSE (central london)  and NORMAL (every building). It probably would have taken them ages to split it into 6 nicely graduated density settings. Its poor and should have been caught in beta testing.

Whats more, some people may find it enlightening to learn that the orbx building models derry speaks of are simobjects.. worth checking if you have simobjects set to cast/receive shadows, because that kills performance if you dont have a seriously beefy GPU

4 hours ago, Christopher Low said:

Check out the product page for VFR Real Scenery Volume 1 on the JustFlight website. Scroll down, and you will see that there are going to be four products....

• Volume 1 - Southern England and South Wales
• Volume 2 - Central England and North Wales
• Volume 3 - Northern England
• Volume 4 - Scotland

There is also a map showing the four scenery regions.

Looks fantastic, please enlighten us with what performance is like and texture loading.