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Anyone Using 8x SSAA with P3D V4.4 ?

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Hi everyone , so yesterday I was flying around New York area with 8x SSAA to my surprise everything was smooth no issues at all. So I would like to know before I continue to use 8x SSAA what result do you guys have flying in very dense scenery or heavy weather condition with 8x SSAA ?

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Only during the day and with dynamic lighting off. MSAA for night flying with DL on.

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This depends a lot on the video card and its capabilities..

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Just now, Bert Pieke said:

This depends a lot on the video card and its capabilities..

At the moment I'm running  p3d with a 1080 TI

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57 minutes ago, mr340 said:

Hi everyone , so yesterday I was flying around New York area with 8x SSAA to my surprise everything was smooth no issues at all. So I would like to know before I continue to use 8x SSAA what result do you guys have flying in very dense scenery or heavy weather condition with 8x SSAA ?

On my experience, I would say that even of you have a powerful video card, you won´t need to go as high as 8xSSAA, otherwise you could have a huge impact on FPS over dense scenery/complex aircraft. I´m using 4xSSAA and seems a good compromise between high graphic quality and good & smooth FPS.

Cheers, Ed

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Just now, edpatino said:

On my experience, I would say that even of you have a powerful video card, you won´t need to go as high as 8xSSAA, otherwise you could have a huge impact on FPS over dense scenery/complex aircraft. I´m using 4xSSAA and seems a good compromise between high graphic quality and good & smooth FPS.

Cheers, Ed

Thought myself the same thing Ed. I did reduce back to  4x SSAA , but flying at night is not such a good idea with DL enable . At night right now I'm testing 8x MSAA .

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3 minutes ago, mr340 said:

Thought myself the same thing Ed. I did reduce back to  4x SSAA , but flying at night is not such a good idea with DL enable . At night right now I'm testing 8x MSAA .

You´re probably right. I don´t fly at night so often, so I couldn´t tell. I´ll check here.

Thanks. Ed

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1 hour ago, Chapstick said:

Only during the day and with dynamic lighting off. MSAA for night flying with DL on.

Same here

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15 minutes ago, mr340 said:

Thought myself the same thing Ed. I did reduce back to  4x SSAA , but flying at night is not such a good idea with DL enable . At night right now I'm testing 8x MSAA .

Having two different graphics profiles in P3D with 4x SSAA/DL off and 8x MSAA/DL on has worked very well for me. Just switch between them for flights that have day and night segments. 

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Just now, Chapstick said:

Having two different graphics profiles in P3D with 4x SSAA/DL off and 8x MSAA/DL on has worked very well for me. Just switch between them for flights that have day and night segments. 

Wow excellent Idea  thank you . During the day you don't notice any scenery with DL on correct ?  So it makes perfectly sense to have DL off . 

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One crucial item missing in your test: screen resolution.

From HD to 4K, there would be a huge difference.

Surprised nobody mentions it

 

Cheers,

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3 hours ago, edpatino said:

On my experience, I would say that even of you have a powerful video card, you won´t need to go as high as 8xSSAA, otherwise you could have a huge impact on FPS over dense scenery/complex aircraft..

 

That's been my experience, and my hardware is currently about as good as it gets...

Try EGLL or KJFK with AS4 running with some nasty real world weather, and night conditions, and even a moderate level of AI traffic and see what happens...

It can be an eye opening experience, and of course depending on your in sim slider settings, but the bottom line is, there's no free lunch here...

I'm using an i7 9700K and RTX 2080 Ti here with 16gb of fast Ram, and P3D running on an SSD, and I typically run 4xSSAA with DL off, which gives me the best overall performance, even at the most demanding airports and weather/time of day conditions, but trying to switch that to 8xSSAA, especially with DL enabled, will drag my performance right down in to the mud, and is basically unusable on my system.

Even with the best hardware, and a well optimized system and P3D setup, compromises will have to be made, there's just no way around it in my experience.

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1 hour ago, SunDevil56 said:

That's been my experience, and my hardware is currently about as good as it gets...

Try EGLL or KJFK with AS4 running with some nasty real world weather, and night conditions, and even a moderate level of AI traffic and see what happens...

It can be an eye opening experience, and of course depending on your in sim slider settings, but the bottom line is, there's no free lunch here...

I'm using an i7 9700K and RTX 2080 Ti here with 16gb of fast Ram, and P3D running on an SSD, and I typically run 4xSSAA with DL off, which gives me the best overall performance, even at the most demanding airports and weather/time of day conditions, but trying to switch that to 8xSSAA, especially with DL enabled, will drag my performance right down in to the mud, and is basically unusable on my system.

Even with the best hardware, and a well optimized system and P3D setup, compromises will have to be made, there's just no way around it in my experience.

DL seem to be big FPS Killer on many computers . It really doesn't matter the specs it's just how DL works . I have optimized my setting for day time flying and night time . Also I'm using Tomato Reflection tool & presets which brings down performance if you are not careful with your p3d setting . My concern at first was having DL off and not being able to run Tomato Shade Reflection  . But now I see DL off doesn't affect my DR Presets .

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5 hours ago, ppo said:

One crucial item missing in your test: screen resolution.

From HD to 4K, there would be a huge difference.

Surprised nobody mentions it

 

Cheers,

3x 4K here as triple view : FXAA + 2xMSAA

For 4K displays good AA with little performance cost.

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16 minutes ago, GSalden said:

3x 4K here as triple view : FXAA + 2xMSAA

For 4K displays good AA with little performance cost.

Concur. On my 4K monitor 4MSAA is good enough.

I use simstarter now which has many CFG profiles which I have setup. IFR/VFR/Developer/Default. Each one has a different CFG so with VFR I use the highest settings (TEXTURE_SIZE_EXP=10, MSAA=4, etc.), IFR a little lower etc. Great little program.

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I run with 4x SSAA on my i5 4690k @ 4.3Ghz + 2GB GTX 770 powered PC, but I have Dynamic Lighting disabled, and I also only fly with clear skies and calm winds.

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On ‎2‎/‎23‎/‎2019 at 5:02 AM, Christopher Low said:

I run with 4x SSAA on my i5 4690k @ 4.3Ghz + 2GB GTX 770 powered PC, but I have Dynamic Lighting disabled, and I also only fly with clear skies and calm winds.

Good info , at the moment I'm flying with 4x SSAA on my I7 8700K @5.1Ghz + GTX 1080 TI , I do have DL disable . I was considering upgrading from a GTX 1080TI to 2080 TI , but discover there is not much of a gain with that upgrade. And my setting will pretty much stay the same as it is  now .

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I use 8x SSAA in daylight with DL switched off on a 4K 40" monitor. DPI count on the 40" 4K is only marginally higher than on my old 26" HD monitor, so 8x SSAA makes a difference. 

 

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It depends what type of flying you do as well. If you fly mainly in a straight line where the scenery isn't rotating as you bank, SSAA works better. As soon as scenery rotates while you turn, more long frames start appearing with high SSAA at the very time when long frames is what you don't want.

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