February 22, 20197 yr Hi everyone , so yesterday I was flying around New York area with 8x SSAA to my surprise everything was smooth no issues at all. So I would like to know before I continue to use 8x SSAA what result do you guys have flying in very dense scenery or heavy weather condition with 8x SSAA ? Mr Leny CPU I7 8700K @ 5.0GHz , MOBO -Asus Maximus X Hero (WiFi AC),GPU - GTX1080 TI , RAM - CORSAIR Vengeance RGB 16GB DDR4 3600MHz SSD -Crucial MX500 1TB (P3D Install Only)OS- Samsung 960 EVO 500GB (Window 10 Pro 64)
February 22, 20197 yr Only during the day and with dynamic lighting off. MSAA for night flying with DL on.
February 22, 20197 yr Author Just now, Bert Pieke said: This depends a lot on the video card and its capabilities.. At the moment I'm running p3d with a 1080 TI Mr Leny CPU I7 8700K @ 5.0GHz , MOBO -Asus Maximus X Hero (WiFi AC),GPU - GTX1080 TI , RAM - CORSAIR Vengeance RGB 16GB DDR4 3600MHz SSD -Crucial MX500 1TB (P3D Install Only)OS- Samsung 960 EVO 500GB (Window 10 Pro 64)
February 22, 20197 yr 57 minutes ago, mr340 said: Hi everyone , so yesterday I was flying around New York area with 8x SSAA to my surprise everything was smooth no issues at all. So I would like to know before I continue to use 8x SSAA what result do you guys have flying in very dense scenery or heavy weather condition with 8x SSAA ? On my experience, I would say that even of you have a powerful video card, you won´t need to go as high as 8xSSAA, otherwise you could have a huge impact on FPS over dense scenery/complex aircraft. I´m using 4xSSAA and seems a good compromise between high graphic quality and good & smooth FPS. Cheers, Ed Cheers, Ed MSFS2020 Steam // Rig: Corsair Graphite 760T Full Tower - ASUS MBoard Maximus XII Hero Z490 - CPU Intel i9-10900K - 64GB RAM - MSI RTX2080 Super 8GB - [1xNVMe M.2 1TB + 1xNVMe M.2 2TB (Samsung)] + [1xSSD 1TB + 1xSSD 2TB (Crucial)] + [1xSSD 1TB (Samsung)] + 1 HDD Seagate 2TB + 1 HDD Seagate External 4TB - Monitor LG 29UC97C UWHD Curved - PSU Corsair RM1000x // Thrustmaster FCS & MS XBOX Controllers
February 22, 20197 yr Author Just now, edpatino said: On my experience, I would say that even of you have a powerful video card, you won´t need to go as high as 8xSSAA, otherwise you could have a huge impact on FPS over dense scenery/complex aircraft. I´m using 4xSSAA and seems a good compromise between high graphic quality and good & smooth FPS. Cheers, Ed Thought myself the same thing Ed. I did reduce back to 4x SSAA , but flying at night is not such a good idea with DL enable . At night right now I'm testing 8x MSAA . Mr Leny CPU I7 8700K @ 5.0GHz , MOBO -Asus Maximus X Hero (WiFi AC),GPU - GTX1080 TI , RAM - CORSAIR Vengeance RGB 16GB DDR4 3600MHz SSD -Crucial MX500 1TB (P3D Install Only)OS- Samsung 960 EVO 500GB (Window 10 Pro 64)
February 22, 20197 yr 3 minutes ago, mr340 said: Thought myself the same thing Ed. I did reduce back to 4x SSAA , but flying at night is not such a good idea with DL enable . At night right now I'm testing 8x MSAA . You´re probably right. I don´t fly at night so often, so I couldn´t tell. I´ll check here. Thanks. Ed Cheers, Ed MSFS2020 Steam // Rig: Corsair Graphite 760T Full Tower - ASUS MBoard Maximus XII Hero Z490 - CPU Intel i9-10900K - 64GB RAM - MSI RTX2080 Super 8GB - [1xNVMe M.2 1TB + 1xNVMe M.2 2TB (Samsung)] + [1xSSD 1TB + 1xSSD 2TB (Crucial)] + [1xSSD 1TB (Samsung)] + 1 HDD Seagate 2TB + 1 HDD Seagate External 4TB - Monitor LG 29UC97C UWHD Curved - PSU Corsair RM1000x // Thrustmaster FCS & MS XBOX Controllers
February 22, 20197 yr 1 hour ago, Chapstick said: Only during the day and with dynamic lighting off. MSAA for night flying with DL on. Same here I9-13900K | ASUS ROG Strix Z790-E Gaming LGA 1700 | MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 4090 24GB | CORSAIR iCUE H150i ELITE LCD Liquid Cooler | CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM 64GB (2X36) 5200MHx DDR5 | Thermaltake GF3 1650W 80+ Gold PSU | Samsung QN90C Neo QLED TV 50”
February 22, 20197 yr 15 minutes ago, mr340 said: Thought myself the same thing Ed. I did reduce back to 4x SSAA , but flying at night is not such a good idea with DL enable . At night right now I'm testing 8x MSAA . Having two different graphics profiles in P3D with 4x SSAA/DL off and 8x MSAA/DL on has worked very well for me. Just switch between them for flights that have day and night segments.
February 22, 20197 yr Author Just now, Chapstick said: Having two different graphics profiles in P3D with 4x SSAA/DL off and 8x MSAA/DL on has worked very well for me. Just switch between them for flights that have day and night segments. Wow excellent Idea thank you . During the day you don't notice any scenery with DL on correct ? So it makes perfectly sense to have DL off . Mr Leny CPU I7 8700K @ 5.0GHz , MOBO -Asus Maximus X Hero (WiFi AC),GPU - GTX1080 TI , RAM - CORSAIR Vengeance RGB 16GB DDR4 3600MHz SSD -Crucial MX500 1TB (P3D Install Only)OS- Samsung 960 EVO 500GB (Window 10 Pro 64)
February 23, 20197 yr One crucial item missing in your test: screen resolution. From HD to 4K, there would be a huge difference. Surprised nobody mentions it Cheers, Pierre I9 14900K 5.5 64gb ram 6800 RTX5090 Asus Strix Gaming E
February 23, 20197 yr 3 hours ago, edpatino said: On my experience, I would say that even of you have a powerful video card, you won´t need to go as high as 8xSSAA, otherwise you could have a huge impact on FPS over dense scenery/complex aircraft.. That's been my experience, and my hardware is currently about as good as it gets... Try EGLL or KJFK with AS4 running with some nasty real world weather, and night conditions, and even a moderate level of AI traffic and see what happens... It can be an eye opening experience, and of course depending on your in sim slider settings, but the bottom line is, there's no free lunch here... I'm using an i7 9700K and RTX 2080 Ti here with 16gb of fast Ram, and P3D running on an SSD, and I typically run 4xSSAA with DL off, which gives me the best overall performance, even at the most demanding airports and weather/time of day conditions, but trying to switch that to 8xSSAA, especially with DL enabled, will drag my performance right down in to the mud, and is basically unusable on my system. Even with the best hardware, and a well optimized system and P3D setup, compromises will have to be made, there's just no way around it in my experience. Edited February 23, 20197 yr by SunDevil56 Scott
February 23, 20197 yr Author 1 hour ago, SunDevil56 said: That's been my experience, and my hardware is currently about as good as it gets... Try EGLL or KJFK with AS4 running with some nasty real world weather, and night conditions, and even a moderate level of AI traffic and see what happens... It can be an eye opening experience, and of course depending on your in sim slider settings, but the bottom line is, there's no free lunch here... I'm using an i7 9700K and RTX 2080 Ti here with 16gb of fast Ram, and P3D running on an SSD, and I typically run 4xSSAA with DL off, which gives me the best overall performance, even at the most demanding airports and weather/time of day conditions, but trying to switch that to 8xSSAA, especially with DL enabled, will drag my performance right down in to the mud, and is basically unusable on my system. Even with the best hardware, and a well optimized system and P3D setup, compromises will have to be made, there's just no way around it in my experience. DL seem to be big FPS Killer on many computers . It really doesn't matter the specs it's just how DL works . I have optimized my setting for day time flying and night time . Also I'm using Tomato Reflection tool & presets which brings down performance if you are not careful with your p3d setting . My concern at first was having DL off and not being able to run Tomato Shade Reflection . But now I see DL off doesn't affect my DR Presets . Edited February 23, 20197 yr by mr340 Mr Leny CPU I7 8700K @ 5.0GHz , MOBO -Asus Maximus X Hero (WiFi AC),GPU - GTX1080 TI , RAM - CORSAIR Vengeance RGB 16GB DDR4 3600MHz SSD -Crucial MX500 1TB (P3D Install Only)OS- Samsung 960 EVO 500GB (Window 10 Pro 64)
February 23, 20197 yr 5 hours ago, ppo said: One crucial item missing in your test: screen resolution. From HD to 4K, there would be a huge difference. Surprised nobody mentions it Cheers, 3x 4K here as triple view : FXAA + 2xMSAA For 4K displays good AA with little performance cost. 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
February 23, 20197 yr 16 minutes ago, GSalden said: 3x 4K here as triple view : FXAA + 2xMSAA For 4K displays good AA with little performance cost. Concur. On my 4K monitor 4MSAA is good enough. I use simstarter now which has many CFG profiles which I have setup. IFR/VFR/Developer/Default. Each one has a different CFG so with VFR I use the highest settings (TEXTURE_SIZE_EXP=10, MSAA=4, etc.), IFR a little lower etc. Great little program. Shez Ansari Windows 11; CPU: Intel Core i7-8700K; GPU: EVGA GEFORCE GTX 1080Ti 11GB; MB: Gigabyte Z370 AORUS Gaming 5; RAM: 16GB; HD: Samsung 960 Pro 512GB SSD, Samsung 850 Pro 256GB SSD; Display: ASUS 4K 28", Asus UHD 26"
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