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Virtualcol A220 Released!

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I realize not everyone will care, but Virtualcol has released it's Airbus A220! I am in the process of downloading it right now. I'll have a little review after I have checked it out!

 

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Nice thanks for the heads up 

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Where did you buy it from? Can’t find it on simmarket 

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Looking forward to your review because I may have some questions.

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51 minutes ago, Wise87 said:

I always buy it from the Virtualcol Store directly. Smooth tranaction and it makes it easier to get updates when they come out.

 

So, I took the a test flight on the A220 from my Flight Test Center at Wendover, Utah (KENV) to KSLC via the FFU transition to the  Rwy 34L ILS. No surprises during the flight, but there was a constant morse code identifier sounding during the entire flight, no matter what I did. Changed the Nav1 frequency, played with the radio switches, etc, but nothing shut it off. I'll try another flight tomorrow, and will file a support request if it recurs.

Overall, I like the aircraft. Virtualcol has really improved their VC's compared to their previous products such as the E Jets. Very nicely done. The textures on the exterior model is somewhat better, but could still use some improvement. A nice effort on their part, though.

I prefer aircraft like this over a so-called study level plane, actually. I have a few of them, such as the PMDG 737 and the Aerosoft CRJ, but the simpler type such as the Virtualcol's allow me to overcome my lack of intense training and thousands of flight hours and learn to operate the aircraft and be comfortable in it in a minimum amount of time. Seems like a good tradeoff to me!

 

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How does a payware A220 get developed and released before other projects that have been worked on for over 2+ years 😂

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1 hour ago, b1bmsgt said:

I prefer aircraft like this over a so-called study level plane, actually. I have a few of them, such as the PMDG 737 and the Aerosoft CRJ, but the simpler type such as the Virtualcol's allow me to overcome my lack of intense training and thousands of flight hours and learn to operate the aircraft and be comfortable in it in a minimum amount of time. Seems like a good tradeoff to me!

Im with you on this. I like maybe 2 planes max where the learning curve is steep but for the rest of my fleet I just want a solid looking model that I can get up and running rather quickly since I wont be in it as much as my main aircraft

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Never tried virtualcol products and I have a few questions about the FMS.

does it do SIDs and STARs?

Updateable database?

 

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I'm guessing the 21.90 price tag and the quick development relative to other high end projects indicates the systems are rather simplified and perhaps default and its just the aesthetics that are there to look like the A220.  Looks decent, but I do like buttons and switches to actually have an effect on the systems with purpose.  

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12 hours ago, b1bmsgt said:

I always buy it from the Virtualcol Store directly. Smooth tranaction and it makes it easier to get updates when they come out.

 

So, I took the a test flight on the A220 from my Flight Test Center at Wendover, Utah (KENV) to KSLC via the FFU transition to the  Rwy 34L ILS. No surprises during the flight, but there was a constant morse code identifier sounding during the entire flight, no matter what I did. Changed the Nav1 frequency, played with the radio switches, etc, but nothing shut it off. I'll try another flight tomorrow, and will file a support request if it recurs.

Overall, I like the aircraft. Virtualcol has really improved their VC's compared to their previous products such as the E Jets. Very nicely done. The textures on the exterior model is somewhat better, but could still use some improvement. A nice effort on their part, though.

I prefer aircraft like this over a so-called study level plane, actually. I have a few of them, such as the PMDG 737 and the Aerosoft CRJ, but the simpler type such as the Virtualcol's allow me to overcome my lack of intense training and thousands of flight hours and learn to operate the aircraft and be comfortable in it in a minimum amount of time. Seems like a good tradeoff to me!

 

Russ

I concur, a nice little add on at a good price. Did a brief test flight and there were no surprises, everything works as designed as far as I can tell, but i'll dive in to this more thoroughly as my time permits. And I agree that the virtual cockpit is a big step up from past Virtualcol offerings. All things considered, for $25 this is a nice aircraft.

I'm not having the morse ID issue that you noted, as a matter of fact the "ID" button above the frequency tuning knob seems to have no effect at all for me, but you can hear it click, so I assume it's intended to be functional.

One thing I did notice... The GPWS altitude callouts don't begin until 400 ft. AGL, and I would prefer to have them start at 1000 feet minimum. It's no big deal though, and I may have a workaround for it by adding Rob Barendregt's P3D v4 compatible freeware GPWS, but I assume if add that i'll get duplicate callouts from 400 ft. AGL until touchdown, but I can live with that I suppose.

I would also like to see some repaints, with just 8 liveries included in the just released package, there is certainly room for some expansion here.

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Well, regarding screenshots comparing them with the real world planes, they did a OK job, not more and not less. Windows are way to big, especially on the -100 variants, this looks completely off and rather ridiculous. And the VirtualCol model suffers from a phenomenon I haven't seen for a very long time, something that was very common back in the freeware addon days: the gear struts are to long, means the plane looks like being on stilts. Slightly disappointed on the second view. I could easily live with basic flight dynamics and systems, such as Carenado, but at least Carenado almost always gets the optics right and provide brilliant 3D models. VirtualCol planes look and are always some kind of amateur 3D modelling style...

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I've carefully compared screenshots I took myself with hi res images of the A220 100 and 300 from airliners.net, and whatever it is you are seeing, i'm just not seeing it, not even close...

The windows and gear struts look fine to me, but I get it, not everyone's visual perception is the same, that's why a few people describe the QW 787 HUD as "sluggish" or "slow rendering" when most people, including me, perceive it as just fine.

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I agree with the sentiment that these aircraft represent a fair value; to that point, I own the Dash 8, ERJ V2, CRJ V2, and SAAB V2.  However, I NEVER fly them; while the visual quality continues to improve with each release, the flight dynamics are simply atrocious.  It's the latter that absolutely kills the immersion and makes these planes un-flyable. For example, on approach it feels like you're going 45 mph...it almost 'feels' like they use the same .air file for every aircraft. 

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It's a fun thing, like most Virtualcol stuff, it's not going to set the world alight, but it's a lot of bang for your bucks all the same, and it has a better VC than many of their other previous releases, so it's nice to see them addressing that aspect of their creations. And of course, there is also the fact that it's pretty much the only one there is.

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Alan,

How are the flight dynamics?  I really wish they would stop using the default MFD!  Thanks for the pictures, sir! 

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Too early to say concerning how it flies in comparison to a real one since I only just got the thing, and in any case, although I do occasionally work on these, I'd hardly consider myself an expert by any stretch of the imagination, so I'm gonna have to check out a bit of info on it and maybe bend some of the pilot's ears about it. I'll do a review of it at some point.

In the interim, I can at least tell you that it's frame-rate friendly, and it flies okay in terms no shocking or surprising behaviour, that is to say, I managed to get it off the deck and flying a flight plan following LNAV and VNAV, so it's not exactly rocket science to figure it out its avionics.

For the money, I don't see why anyone wouldn't at least be prepared to give it a go. I'll probably spend twice what it costs in the pub later this evening lol.

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Fair enough, Alan. Again, I appreciate the info! 

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7 minutes ago, Chock said:

Too early to say concerning how it flies in comparison to a real one since I only just got the thing, and in any case, although I do occasionally work on these, I'd hardly consider myself an expert by any stretch of the imagination, so I'm gonna have to check out a bit of info on it and maybe bend some of the pilot's ears about it. I'll do a review of it at some point.

In the interim, I can at least tell you that it's frame-rate friendly, and it flies okay in terms no shocking or surprising behaviour, that is to say, I managed to get it off the deck and flying a flight plan following LNAV and VNAV, so it's not exactly rocket science to figure it out its avionics.

For the money, I don't see why anyone wouldn't at least be prepared to give it a go. I'll probably spend twice what it costs in the pub later this evening lol.

+1

Also, as you pointed out it's the only one available, and that's a situation that is unlikely to change for quite some time... That's one of the reasons I decided to get it, and i'm well aware of Vcol's limitations based on opinions of their past offerings, but I have to say in all honesty, for the price I was pleasantly surprised with the A220, and i'm glad I got it.. 

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Yup, I think it is as well to be aware that if anyone wanted to develop a more 'study' version of the A220, they'd be looking at a lot of work, most of that probably from scratch. So any sort of super-duper version of an A220 for any of the popular flight sim platforms is going to be quite a way off in terms of choices available.

If a developer already has made, for example, a Boeing 707, that would at least pave the way a bit to making a 727 and a 737, since all three types share many attributes from similar engines and avionics, to even having the same cockpit shell, so it would at least in some respects make it a bit less work. But as far as the A220 is concerned, it only really shares a very few number of attributes with a few aeroplanes, most of which nobody has made for a flight sim anyway. There's some minor  parts commonality with the Comac C919 and the Irkut MC-21, and the Pratt & Whitney PW1000G is basically the engine an A320 NEO uses, and if we're really pushing it, the A220 shares some similarities with some CRJs (a bit) courtesy of its Bombardier origins, but none of this is really going to help with making a flight sim A220 very much. At best it would be anyone who's made a 320 NEO who might be able to use some of the engine work on a 220.

So as far as the A220 is concerned in PC-based flight sims, it's kind of this or nothing, for a good while at least. Not necessarily a bad thing, I quite like it so far and you can't really grumble about a 20 quid price tag.

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1 hour ago, Chock said:

Yup, I think it is as well to be aware that if anyone wanted to develop a more 'study' version of the A220, they'd be looking at a lot of work, most of that probably from scratch. So any sort of super-duper version of an A220 for any of the popular flight sim platforms is going to be quite a way off in terms of choices available....

So as far as the A220 is concerned in PC-based flight sims, it's kind of this or nothing, for a good while at least. Not necessarily a bad thing, I quite like it so far and you can't really grumble about a 20 quid price tag.

I agree Chock, and I think you summed it up nicely.

Maybe it's just me, but one thing I found to be mildly disappointing are the engine sounds...

The characteristic "howling" sound that the PW 1500G exhibits with the Vcol A220 at different stages of the engines spooling up or down seem to be accurately modeled from what I can see in various Youtube videos of the actual aircraft, but i've noticed that certain changes in the throttle setting can result in a glitchy "stuttering" or loopy effect until the throttles are advanced or retarded a bit more. It's a minor thing overall, but it's apparent to my ears nevertheless.

I understand that the sound sets that come with most of these lower tier aircraft aren't usually the best, and I suppose I could always substitute a freeware sound package, or one from an existing payware aircraft, but it might be nice if we could get TSS to make a PW 1500G sound package for us...😎 

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Well that's one of many things third parties could address, from avionics to sounds. Probably will happen given the fact that it's the only game in town.

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6 hours ago, Chock said:

Yup, I think it is as well to be aware that if anyone wanted to develop a more 'study' version of the A220, they'd be looking at a lot of work, most of that probably from scratch. So any sort of super-duper version of an A220 for any of the popular flight sim platforms is going to be quite a way off in terms of choices available

That OK to me. Now I fear it's like the Feelthere ERJ, there never will be a more advanced model both Texture and systems quality.

 

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With regard to the suggestion that the modelling is a bit off in terms of gear strut length and window size, although it's usually near impossible to match a real-world photograph with a sim screenshot, these ones I did are a fairly close match. From this, I think that maybe just possibly the windows are a tiny bit over-sized and the gear is possibly just a little bit over-long too, but on the whole it doesn't really look that bad. Anyway, judge for yourselves:

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