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Thank you for the clarification! If I understand correctly, the turbulence and wind effects dynamically generated depending on terrain and wind direction / strength?


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Yes, all come into play for a dynamic result depending on all analyzed parameters.

This is true both for a lateral and a vertical envelope. 

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I've just tested two approaches into LDDU with the Aerosoft A320 Pro on 12th March 2019 at 1215Z to try and replicate the conditions as shown in RealTurb's 'Video 2' linked above.

With ActiveSkyP4 on both times, and A2A's Accu-Feel on during my first approach and then off for my second. I feel I was able to replicate about 85-90% of what was shown in the first part of that video, with changing wind speeds and directions, airspeed alerts and sink rate callouts resulting in very unstable approaches.

I'm not going to try to recommend or dissuade anyone from this product. What I would suggest is that anyone wanting to compare should use the same weather conditions in their sim at the time I described earlier to make an informed decision.

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2 hours ago, RealTurb said:

Yes, all come into play for a dynamic result depending on all analyzed parameters.

This is true both for a lateral and a vertical envelope. 

Regards,

What about mountain wave? Sometimes depending on the jetstream orientation/strength, mountain wave can be encountered up to 700nm east of the Rockies up at FL300+. It would be awesome if this was simulated.

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3 hours ago, RealTurb said:

Yes, all come into play for a dynamic result depending on all analyzed parameters.

This is true both for a lateral and a vertical envelope. 

Regards,

Thank you again! Now this is getting seriously interesting.


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19 hours ago, F737NG said:

I've just tested two approaches into LDDU with the Aerosoft A320 Pro on 12th March 2019 at 1215Z to try and replicate the conditions as shown in RealTurb's 'Video 2' linked above.

With ActiveSkyP4 on both times, and A2A's Accu-Feel on during my first approach and then off for my second. I feel I was able to replicate about 85-90% of what was shown in the first part of that video, with changing wind speeds and directions, airspeed alerts and sink rate callouts resulting in very unstable approaches.

I'm not going to try to recommend or dissuade anyone from this product. What I would suggest is that anyone wanting to compare should use the same weather conditions in their sim at the time I described earlier to make an informed decision.

We might be wrong here as we don't own this product but from their documentation it feels like turbulence is linked to different wind values/gusts. RealTurb is a completely different concept linking wind to terrain and turbulence. For example on a very windy day with wind coming from the sea you won't get much of turbulence and the rest of the effects and you might get more effects on a less windy day but with terrain involved. 

19 hours ago, bbain1187 said:

What about mountain wave? Sometimes depending on the jetstream orientation/strength, mountain wave can be encountered up to 700nm east of the Rockies up at FL300+. It would be awesome if this was simulated.

Ben

This is more linked to high alt turbulence and CAT areas. At the moment RealTurb doesn't simulate high alt CAT areas. 

Regards,

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I own "Summer Destinations" already and my first approach into LEMG was pretty interesting, i really like the extra layer of weather fidelity RealTurb adds. Cant wait for my first approach into LXGB, gonna be fun!

23 hours ago, RealTurb said:

First of all, RealTurb is not only about turbulence. If it was only about turbulence it would have been much easier to do a global version in the first place. It will also add realistic speed fluctuations, wind shiftings and wind shears! Wind shiftings and windshears are all done by hand in order to achieve a more realistic result (depending also on the area/terrain/distance to terrain/wind direction vs direction to terrain etc) and considering that most of the speed fluctuations come from the wind shiftings due to terrain, indirectly, speed fluctuations are also done by hand.

Given that the recent release includes an entire continent, compared to just a few selected airfields in the first few packs, can we expect the same level of detail and handcrafting for the NA pack? 

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Does this addon on work in mountain areas or everywhere over NA? 


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3 hours ago, Woozie said:

I own "Summer Destinations" already and my first approach into LEMG was pretty interesting, i really like the extra layer of weather fidelity RealTurb adds. Cant wait for my first approach into LXGB, gonna be fun!

Given that the recent release includes an entire continent, compared to just a few selected airfields in the first few packs, can we expect the same level of detail and handcrafting for the NA pack? 

Yes, the analysis used for the continents packages is even more accurate compared to the first 2 packages (ie. RealTurb Greek Airports and RealTurb Summer Destinations). In the last update, Greek Airports and Summer Destinations were also updated to the latest logic carried by the continents packages. 

1 hour ago, fakeflyer737 said:

Does this addon on work in mountain areas or everywhere over NA? 

There is terrain analysis everywhere within the coverage area (eg. over all NA) however you get the effects where conditions are appropriate with dynamic effects in vertical/lateral envelope depending on the other parameters. For example you shouldn't expect turbulence over sea or completely flat land.

Regards,

 

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1 hour ago, RealTurb said:

 In the last update, Greek Airports and Summer Destinations were also updated to the latest logic carried by the continents packages. 

Thanks for your response, the NA package is on my must-buy-list now. Are the upcoming packs all going to be large regions, rather than airport collections? And when can we expect Europe to be fully covered? 😉

 

Oh, and i guess i should check my simmarket update notifications more often, wasnt even aware of the summer destination update. Perfect timing as i'm going for LDDU today

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@RealTurb welcome to Avsim.  I am excited to read more about this on this thread.  Excellent discussion going on


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Does anyone use this with FSlabs?  I ask because their Active Sky recommended settings are pretty specific and outside of that makes the plane do some strange things.  I would wonder if adding this affects Fslabs.

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35 minutes ago, Zimmerbz said:

Does anyone use this with FSlabs?  I ask because their Active Sky recommended settings are pretty specific and outside of that makes the plane do some strange things.  I would wonder if adding this affects Fslabs.

Good question

 


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1 hour ago, Zimmerbz said:

Does anyone use this with FSlabs?  I ask because their Active Sky recommended settings are pretty specific and outside of that makes the plane do some strange things.  I would wonder if adding this affects Fslabs.

I do, no issues so far. Some beta testers over at the FSLabs forum use it too and its even featured in RealTurbs demonstration videos.

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On 5/28/2019 at 9:58 AM, ZKOKQ said:

 

Have not regretted my purchase one bit.

I have the Greek Islands and Europe summer destinations.  They are brilliant tonights approach into Lddu was fab with it as was lepa the other night. 

I like them. 

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