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Hello,

I have just finally made the jump from FSX to P3D. The screen resolution options in P3D (version4.5) have 1920x1080 as the maximum option. Is this because it knows I have only a GTX1070 card and a 1920x1080 monitor? Would going to a an RTX2080 and new 4K monitor bring up the 3842x2160 option in P3D or does it simply not run at these higher resolutions? Hope this is not a really dumb question from a novice!

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Steve.

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You will be able to run it in 4K with a 2080 and a 4K display but it is a big ask on your system which means you may have to compromise on settings that allow it to run smoothly at, 1080p or 1440. A lot depends on your cpu as well.

 


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1 hour ago, shally17 said:

Is this because it knows I have only a GTX1070 card and a 1920x1080 monitor?

The GTX 1070 can operate at 8K resolution see: https://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-1070/specifications

You will need a 4K monitor (preferably one that operates at both 30Hz and 60Hz) ... recommend a monitor with HDMI ports since it's rare to see DisplayPort only monitor operate at 30Hz.

I'd recommend you get a 4K monitor and see how your 1070 does at 4K.  If the GPU is capping out at 90-100% load, then consider upgrading the GPU (2080 "Super" might be a better option when available).

Be aware operating P3D is about "balance", if your CPU is pegged at 100% all the time and GPU at 40%, then your graphics settings and add-ons aren't "balanced" well.  It's really all about "balance" and a 30Hz monitor.  Ignore any comments about P3D doesn't use all cores and/or doesn't use the GPU ... a well balance P3D system will use all cores and your GPU ... aim for about 90-95% CPU usage core 0, and about 40-80% other cores, GPU target is 80% ... this will provide you with some headroom.

BALANCE

30Hz

Enjoy! 

Cheers, Rob. 

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7 hours ago, shally17 said:

Is this because it knows I have only a GTX1070 card and a 1920x1080 monitor?

It is all about the monitor. Plug in a monitor that is capable of 4K and you will see 4K as an option in the list of available full-screen resolutions.


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Thanks for the replies. That was most helpful. The CPU is an i9900K @5GHz so it will be interesting to see how I go.

Steve.

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I recently upgraded to a UHD monitior.  What the guys are saying above about balancing your settings with the capability of your kit is obviously correct, but what I've found is that running at 3840x2160 on a GTX1070 actually allows you to turn down some of the graphics settings from what you'd need to get a good HD look and still get a better visual result. 

Obviously if you can afford a better GPU then why not, but my plan was to wait for P3D V5 and see if that changes the system requirements for the GPU.   



 

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Hello Again,

As a relative novice when it comes to monitoring hardware performance, which software are you using to find out the figures for the CPU and GPU usage?

Steve.

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14 minutes ago, shally17 said:

which software are you using to find out the figures for the CPU and GPU usage?

I use MSI Afterburner (Riva server) ... logs and allows you to do screen overlay so you can see it realtime (in P3D just be sure to set water = High and not Ultra or else the graphics overlay doesn't work).  https://www.msi.com/page/afterburner

Cheers, Rob.

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Another novice question if I may. You suggested a monitor that is capable of 30Hz. What are the benefits of 30Hz over 60Hz?

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2 hours ago, shally17 said:

What are the benefits of 30Hz over 60Hz?

30Hz allows you to run P3D with less resources.  Might work for some who have a struggling CPU.  Running at 60Hz requires more resources.  I run P3D at 60Hz and have absolutely no issues.  When I watch YouTube videos, I immediately look for 1440p (4K) resolution as an option as they always use 1080p as the default.  It is awesome!  Everyone on YouTube should be required to have 1440p resolution as an option.  I know most of Rob's videos are in that resolution.

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4K is 2160p, 2K is 1440p ... I believe YouTube will auto adjust (if you have it set to Auto) when you go full screen based on your monitors set resolution and the available source video resolution.  Most of my videos are 2160p ... I keep hoping someone will buy a nice 98" 8K monitor 🙂 

As Jim suggested, 30Hz operation means you can increase P3D graphics settings to increase visuals (more Autogen buildings, dynamic lighting, higher quality reflections, shadows, etc. etc.) if used with Vsync On ... which means P3D only needs to sustain 30 fps to match the 30Hz vsync ... this provides smoother and more consistent image quality (less stutters).  If you have a monitor that can only do 60Hz, then P3D will have to work twice as hard to sustain 60 FPS in order to maintain a stutter free smooth image ... and this usually means you have to decrease P3D graphic settings in order to sustain 60 FPS.

Here is the confusing part, 60Hz/60 FPS is better than 30Hz/30 FPS IF you do a lot of rapid motion (i.e. VR users, TrackIR users, or someone that just moves their view very quickly frequently).  Where 60FPS/60Hz works better would be in aerobatic aircraft, military combat jets, and aircraft that typically operate in high G maneuvers.  But for commercial aircraft (747, 737, 777, A320, L1011, etc.) and more timid GA aircraft (172, 310s, etc.) 30FPS/30Hz will usually work very well for them.

Cheers, Rob.

  

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9 hours ago, Rob_Ainscough said:

As Jim suggested, 30Hz operation means you can increase P3D graphics settings to increase visuals (more Autogen buildings, dynamic lighting, higher quality reflections, shadows, etc. etc.) if used with Vsync On ... which means P3D only needs to sustain 30 fps to match the 30Hz vsync ..

Does using an external limiter such as RTSS on Sync x/2 on a 60hz monitor also limit the work P3D needs to do so that settings may be increased or do you have to physically turn your monitor to 30hz and use the internal vsync to achieve that goal?


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