Hi,

As Black Friday deals are on (both FSDT and DD) I would like some feedback about the 2 versions before picking one.

I want KMDW as well so the DD version is more appealing. With today's deals you get the DD version including both airports at the price of FSDT KORD.

 

Worth to mention that if I compare KJFK FSDT is superior to DD although released a few years earlier! 

 

Thanks for the help deciding!

Edited November 30, 20196 yr by Shomron

FSDT KORD especially after the HF2 is the best looking international airport in my P3D collection.

Performance it great. As to how accurate it is and how accurate the AFCAD is you'll have to wait for

one of the cono surs to reply. It does have lots of original bells and whistles though.

But having said that FSDT live update constantly delivers new work.

I like my DD scenery, NYC X and Miami but have never bought one of their airport. I get the impression

they are not quite in the same league as FST in that regard.

Don't forget you can download it and try if for 10 mins. before you buy it!

10 mins doesn't seem like much but you can load it multiple times for 10mins

giving you plenty of time to evaluate if you want to purchase it.

I decided to split up the load, got drz chicago city and also fsdt kord. Try the demo

FSDT ORD is an amazing airport, I’m sure you won’t be disappointed.

FSDT require higher graphics settings or else it's jaggie central. If you use just MSAA x8 it looks terrible with jaggie issues all over terminals and gates with the taxiways shimmering really bad at night. It goes away with higher graphics card settings but then if you use high end payware planes, shader program like PTA or TS and throw in weather and your toast. That's why I dumped it for DD. No where near the shimmering FSDT has.

Thanks for the info guys!

11 minutes ago, B777ER said:

FSDT require higher graphics settings or else it's jaggie central. If you use just MSAA x8 it looks terrible with jaggie issues all over terminals and gates with the taxiways shimmering really bad at night. It goes away with higher graphics card settings but then if you use high end payware planes, shader program like PTA or TS and throw in weather and your toast. That's why I dumped it for DD. No where near the shimmering FSDT has.

I use 4xSSAA should that be fine?

If you fly at night at all I would get the DD version.  The FSDT airports, as good as they usually are,  have that horrible 'moire' effect on runways/taxiways and I can no longer fly at any of the airports at night.  You can up the SSAA but then your performance will be destroyed with the dynamic lights.  If you also interested in KMDW I would think DD might be your best option.

3 hours ago, Shomron said:

Thanks for the info guys!

I use 4xSSAA should that be fine?

Sure, but the key is you MUST install P3D4 4.5 HF2.

When KORD was released, it was unjustly accused of shimmering and moire, as if this was something "strange" we do at FSDT, when in fact it was just a side effect of not using the proper AA method, and it happened just the same with any other PBR scenery out there, not that there are many, but they all had the same issue.

Which of course, was a bug in the sim, since SSA didn't really work in pre-HF2. People didn't believe the explanation, and pointed out to other scenery developers that offered "patches", which were just replacing the PBR objects with non-PBR version they already made for the older simulator!! 

We didn't had such thing, and purposely doing something in legacy mode *just* for waiting LM to finally release HF2 ( which took longer than we expected) didn't seem very smart.

And of course, after HF2 came out, SSA started to work again, and the most of the shimmering/moire were gone. They cannot disappear *entirely* because you see them in all kind of games, rendering engines, even those with more advanced AA modes, but they are way, way less now.

And of course, thanks to our custom software optimization, in which we have a few DL to do a basic lighting, and only the ones close to your airplane on terminals, we never draw too many DL at once, so the fps loss commonly associated with SSA+DL is not really hard.

Yes, you must have a good GPU but, if you have it ( and you surely DO have it, we all had 1080Ti when we made KORD ), KORD V2 will make good use of it.

But that's really besides the point. The scenery comes with a Trial, just look at it, and see for yourself. Don't forget SSA and HF2...

 

DD Chicago City X

FSDT KORD

FLYTAMPA KMDW

Orbx KCGX

 

All work really well together and good frames and graphics on my set up.

With DD you get Midway too plus a business airport.

If you can afford both the DD packages and the FSDT I would get it all over with and complete your entire Chicago experience in one shot 😁

Drz did a great job on his Chicago Airports and City packages, his best work yet. I would go for them right now, his KORD will definitely get you by. And then in the near future I would add the FSDT KORD and you'll have the best of both worlds. I ran just the DD packages since their release and just recently upgraded to the FSDT KORD and it's been great.

6 hours ago, IAhawkeyeDDS said:

DD Chicago City X

FSDT KORD

FLYTAMPA KMDW

Orbx KCGX

 

All work really well together and good frames and graphics on my set up.

Is FlyTampa KMDW still superior to the newer DD version?

Looking at some YT videos the DD version has PBR, sun lit ground textures etc...

 

7 hours ago, virtuali said:

Sure, but the key is you MUST install P3D4 4.5 HF2.

When KORD was released, it was unjustly accused of shimmering and moire, as if this was something "strange" we do at FSDT, when in fact it was just a side effect of not using the proper AA method, and it happened just the same with any other PBR scenery out there, not that there are many, but they all had the same issue.

Which of course, was a bug in the sim, since SSA didn't really work in pre-HF2. People didn't believe the explanation, and pointed out to other scenery developers that offered "patches", which were just replacing the PBR objects with non-PBR version they already made for the older simulator!! 

We didn't had such thing, and purposely doing something in legacy mode *just* for waiting LM to finally release HF2 ( which took longer than we expected) didn't seem very smart.

And of course, after HF2 came out, SSA started to work again, and the most of the shimmering/moire were gone. They cannot disappear *entirely* because you see them in all kind of games, rendering engines, even those with more advanced AA modes, but they are way, way less now.

And of course, thanks to our custom software optimization, in which we have a few DL to do a basic lighting, and only the ones close to your airplane on terminals, we never draw too many DL at once, so the fps loss commonly associated with SSA+DL is not really hard.

Yes, you must have a good GPU but, if you have it ( and you surely DO have it, we all had 1080Ti when we made KORD ), KORD V2 will make good use of it.

But that's really besides the point. The scenery comes with a Trial, just look at it, and see for yourself. Don't forget SSA and HF2...

 

Thanks for the explanation! I'll be getting the FSDT version based on the feedback here

Edited December 1, 20196 yr by Shomron